Will you submit to forced covid non vaccines, that are called vaccines?

[realistic dude]

no on all counts.

Well ....... enjoy your new job or unemployment. Morals and ethics will not feed the kids , but at least YOU will feel good in your new situation.

 

[M0del_31]

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...greater-immunity-vaccine-no-infection-parties

 

[bigpaul]

Well ....... enjoy your new job or unemployment. Morals and ethics will not feed the kids , but at least YOU will feel good in your new situation.

I'm retired and I dont have kids.
but even if I wasnt I would not take something against my will, someone has to make a stand.

 

[realistic dude]

I'm retired and I dont have kids.

How did I know that . I must be more realistic than I thought ! And I did not say take it / I said fake it.

 

[bigpaul]

if I dont want to take it why would I fake that I had?

 

[Dave2001]

At my workplace all vaccinated workers have to load their vaccination card into the computer data base . They then receive a green badge holder to wear around their neck. " Like a swastika on their sleeve " Coworkers immediately know your status . The supervisors receive a printout of the non-vaccinated and then call them into the office for the "pep talk". And yes , if you have any further questions or concerns , an administrator will be glad to meet with you................ I am appalled at how my younger coworkers just fall in line , but of course, they have been indoctrinated since birth. Take the vaccination or lose your job, not a choice for most of them. I can see their dilemma and it sickens me to the core.

Sounds NAZI to me!!!

 

[SHTFPREPPER]

…I will never understand the level of audacity it must take to decline a free vaccine, and then show up to the hospital and consume thousands of dollars worth of medical resources and ask for total heroic measures to save your life from the same people who begged you to get the vaccine in the first place. Absolutely incomprehensible to me.

How utterly arrogant of you. Do you follow the Hippocrates Oath only on people who agree with you?
I guess intelligent thought and freedom of choice ARE absolutely incomprehensible to you. I pity your patients.
Dr Mengele would approve.

 

[realistic dude]

Sounds NAZI to me!!!

Socialism , Fascism . Communism ,,,,,,,,,,, Keep the people in fear is the key to the agenda .

 

[realistic dude]

if I dont want to take it why would I fake that I had?

You have no dependents , and are retired . So you do not have to about worry about losing your job . I am the sole provider for my family and would do anything to do that . I would fake anything to keep my family safe and fed . You are starting to irritate me .

 

[Arcticdude]

You have no dependents , and are retired . So you do not have to about worry about losing your job . I am the sole provider for my family and would do anything to do that . I would fake anything to keep my family safe and fed . You are starting to irritate me .

He posed a valid question. I'm in the same situation; retired. Even if I wasn't retired I wouldn't submit to the shot. My wife left her job shortly after her company started to require the ridiculous face diaper.

 

[tmttactical]

You have no dependents , and are retired . So you do not have to about worry about losing your job . I am the sole provider for my family and would do anything to do that . I would fake anything to keep my family safe and fed . You are starting to irritate me .

Now lets flip this to the other side. As the sole provider for your family, what would happen if you died from the a side effect of the vaccine? As a prepper a person should be looking at both sides of an issue. Side A: possible temporary loss of income and a scramble to provide. Side B: Permanent loss of your income and the family starts looking for a new provider. The other issue is why FAKE the vaccine treatment, just start looking for a new career or job that does not mandate the vaccine. There are plenty of jobs positions out there that won't require vaccination. Check on Gab as they are starting a job employment listing of companies that DO NOT require vaccinations. As for you being irritated, I doubt many here give a shyte. Take a chill pill, a toke or whatever you need to mellow out.

 

[Marjie]

How many anti-vaxxers would fake the jab , play the game, if they could find a like-minded clinician . One side might call you a " sellout " ............ The other side would say " just do the right thing for your fellow man."........... Would you live with a lie to save the job that provides for your family ?......... And finally , Does anyone know a like-minded clinician ?

Yes, definite yes!

 

[bigpaul]

You have no dependents , and are retired . So you do not have to about worry about losing your job . I am the sole provider for my family and would do anything to do that . I would fake anything to keep my family safe and fed . You are starting to irritate me .

this is a discussion forum, we are discussing.
not everyone will have the same opinion, it would be a boring old world if we did.
if I'm irritating you I must be doing it right

 

[Dostoyevsky]

This is what I’m referring to
I have a hard time rationalizing not wanting to put a vaccine in your body.
Yet when you show up to the hospital gasping for breath, you are ok with these same physicians who pleaded with you to get vaccinated… you are ok with them to give you drugs to paralyze and sedate you. Stick tubes in all orifices to measure urine output, feed you, put you an a vent to breathe for you.
That’s ok?! That’s what I’m talking about Peachie. All of us in healthcare have a hard time wrapping our heads around this type of logic

I want to know why I should take a vaccine that has not been through the full clinical trials and which is not licenced, ie. one that is basically still experimental. Clinical trials for vaccines take years for very good reasons. There are long term side-effects like ADE that could make the disease far more dangerous for vaccinated people than non-vaccinated people. We just don't know if this will be a problem because long-term effects are unknown. Why should I take that risk for a disease that has such a low mortality? (I worked out my risk here: <span> <img src="logo.jpg" width="200px"/> </span>.

Since when are people vaccinated to save other people? Vaccines stop you from getting sick, not other people, so your vaccine status should not matter to anyone else. None of these vaccine mandates, coercion, bullying etc. makes any medical sense at all to me.

 

[DrPrepper]

At my workplace all vaccinated workers have to load their vaccination card into the computer data base . They then receive a green badge holder to wear around their neck. " Like a swastika on their sleeve " Coworkers immediately know your status . The supervisors receive a printout of the non-vaccinated and then call them into the office for the "pep talk". And yes , if you have any further questions or concerns , an administrator will be glad to meet with you................ I am appalled at how my younger coworkers just fall in line , but of course, they have been indoctrinated since birth. Take the vaccination or lose your job, not a choice for most of them. I can see their dilemma and it sickens me to the core.

What happens if they don’t get vaccinated? Do they just keep giving them the pep talk?

 

[realistic dude]

What happens if they don’t get vaccinated? Do they just keep giving them the pep talk?

No , you get a thirty day probation , time enough to get the vaccine or get the axe.

 

[realistic dude]

Now lets flip this to the other side. As the sole provider for your family, what would happen if you died from the a side effect of the vaccine? As a prepper a person should be looking at both sides of an issue. Side A: possible temporary loss of income and a scramble to provide. Side B: Permanent loss of your income and the family starts looking for a new provider. The other issue is why FAKE the vaccine treatment, just start looking for a new career or job that does not mandate the vaccine. There are plenty of jobs positions out there that won't require vaccination. Check on Gab as they are starting a job employment listing of companies that DO NOT require vaccinations. As for you being irritated, I doubt many here give a shyte. Take a chill pill, a toke or whatever you need to mellow out.

this is a discussion forum, we are discussing.
not everyone will have the same opinion, it would be a boring old world if we did.
if I'm irritating you I must be doing it right

He posed a valid question. I'm in the same situation; retired. Even if I wasn't retired I wouldn't submit to the shot. My wife left her job shortly after her company started to require the ridiculous face diaper.

What's irritating is Paul is not understanding my hypothetical , realistic posts in the manner in which I intended . I should have fluently put Wed, Thur. and Friday posts all together and THEN started the fake jab scenario. I never said I would take the jab , and I never said I would not get a new job . BTW , it's in the works , just in case . My last several posts revolve around faking the jab and if you would do it . ......Sooooooo ... Its not Paul 'himself " and I should have said " This situation is irritating me ".................. Let it be , and besides I was trying to engage another member , not Paul......... must be using the wrong bait cause she ain't biting.

 

[bigpaul]

plenty of job vacancies over here, their crying out for truck drivers and veg pickers!

 

[realistic dude]

plenty of job vacancies over here, their crying out for truck drivers and veg pickers!

Good one dude , thanks for the heads up , trying to stay in the same profession for now , until the Federal mandate comes.

 

[bigpaul]

Good one dude , thanks for the heads up , trying to stay in the same profession for now , until the Federal mandate comes.

I've had a few different jobs over my working life but still prefer the ones where I worked alone, no BS from other people just got on with the job.