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A 8 year old child in a class of 20 to 25 students enters the ER with his mother and 4 siblings . She states " A kid in his class was COVID positive , so they sent us here for him to be tested so he can come back to class . And while we are here , I want to test all my children." ......... OK , are any of the children having any symptoms ? " No , they are all fine and my husband , his mother and her family all need to be checked because they may have been exposed ,and we want the rapid test. "........ THAT IS AS REAL AS ER OVERCROWDING GETS .
 
Did anyone notice this, from England's Chief Medical Officer? Look at the stats for over 50.


Hospital admissions over 50: 69% are vaccinated
Deaths over 50: 70% are vaccinated

but hurry up and go get your vaccines..... Pass



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Chris Whitty warns of ‘very sick’ Covid patients as he urges people to get a jab (yahoo.com)
 
https://www.thedailybeast.com/ultra-vaccinated-israels-debacle-is-a-dire-warning-to-americaJERUSALEM—The massive surge of COVID-19 infections in Israel, one of the most vaccinated countries on earth, is pointing to a complicated path ahead for America.

In June, there were several days with zero new COVID infections in Israel. The country launched its national vaccination campaign in December last year and has one of the highest vaccination rates in the world, with 80 percent of citizens above the age of 12 fully inoculated. COVID, most Israelis thought, had been defeated. All restrictions were lifted and Israelis went back to crowded partying and praying in mask-free venues.

Fast forward two months later: Israel reported 9,831 new diagnosed cases on Tuesday, a hairbreadth away from the worst daily figure ever recorded in the country—10,000—at the peak of the third wave. More than 350 people have died of the disease in the first three weeks of August. In a Sunday press conference, the directors of seven public hospitals announced that they could no longer admit any coronavirus patients. With 670 COVID-19 patients requiring critical care, their wards are overflowing and staff are at breaking point.
 
DrHenley said:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/ultra-vaccinated-israels-debacle-is-a-dire-warning-to-americaJERUSALEM—The massive surge of COVID-19 infections in Israel, one of the most vaccinated countries on earth, is pointing to a complicated path ahead for America.

In June, there were several days with zero new COVID infections in Israel. The country launched its national vaccination campaign in December last year and has one of the highest vaccination rates in the world, with 80 percent of citizens above the age of 12 fully inoculated. COVID, most Israelis thought, had been defeated. All restrictions were lifted and Israelis went back to crowded partying and praying in mask-free venues.

Fast forward two months later: Israel reported 9,831 new diagnosed cases on Tuesday, a hairbreadth away from the worst daily figure ever recorded in the country—10,000—at the peak of the third wave. More than 350 people have died of the disease in the first three weeks of August. In a Sunday press conference, the directors of seven public hospitals announced that they could no longer admit any coronavirus patients. With 670 COVID-19 patients requiring critical care, their wards are overflowing and staff are at breaking point.
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This is exactly what I was afraid of. Delta variant is bad news, people are younger and sicker, and we do have breakthrough infections.

From your same article (encouraging):
Israel was forced to make quick decisions and in a time of great uncertainty. Levine was among the public health officials who expressed doubts about the wisdom of Israel’s untested move towards nationwide booster vaccination, but he told The Daily Beast that the latest statistics, showing that only 0.2 of the first 1.1 million recipients of the third jab were infected with the coronavirus, proved it had been a “brave decision.”

The last week has shown a significant reduction in morbidity among triple-vaccinated Israelis over the age of 70—the first group to receive the booster.
 
If the vaccine will not prevent a COVID-19 infection, nor will it prevent a vaccinated, infected person from spreading COVID-19 to others, why are vaccinated people treated as though they no longer pose a risk while at the same time, people who HAVE ALREADY HAD COVID-19 are treated as though they ARE a risk?
 
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If the vaccine will not prevent a COVID-19 infection, nor will it prevent a vaccinated, infected person from spreading COVID-19 to others, why are vaccinated people treated as though they no longer pose a risk while at the same time, people who HAVE ALREADY HAD COVID-19 are treated as though they ARE a risk?
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Everyone is being treated like they are a risk at this point. Vaccinated have to wear masks too (at least where I live).
There is much research out there, but for concise information - I have found a great analysis from a PhD epidemiologist.

"Natural infection can mount a messy response compared to the much more targeted vaccine immunity.

It has to do with how antibodies attach to the virus. Both antibodies (natural and vaccine) block the spike protein from attaching to our cells. One landing target is a specific place on the spike protein called the receptor binding domain, or RBD.

But a recent study found that natural antibodies mainly attach to one region (called E484) on the RBD while vaccine antibodies can attached to many regions. This can be problematic for natural immunity as the virus mutates and regions on the RBD change. Because vaccine antibodies can attach to many regions, the vaccine antibodies have more flexible landing options and thus provides better protection potential as the virus changes."

"Symptoms for reinfection

And just because you had a previous case, doesn’t mean you’ll fare any different. In fact, one small study found people fared worse during reinfection, particularly if the first infection was asymptomatic or mild.

Bottom Line: The immune system is incredibly complex but we are slowly getting more and more evidence that natural immunity is not as effective as vaccine immunity."

https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/natural-immunity-protection-and-variants
 
DrJenner said:
"Natural infection can mount a messy response compared to the much more targeted vaccine immunity.

It has to do with how antibodies attach to the virus. Both antibodies (natural and vaccine) block the spike protein from attaching to our cells. One landing target is a specific place on the spike protein called the receptor binding domain, or RBD.
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According to the CDC, "Cases of reinfection with COVID-19 have been reported, but remain rare."

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/your-health/reinfection.html
 
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Check the definitions below the table on page 3: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/pdfs/mm7034e5-H.pdf


Persons were considered fully vaccinated ≥14 days after receipt of the second dose in a 2-dose series (Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna COVID-19 vaccines) or after 1 dose of the single-dose Janssen (Johnson & Johnson) COVID-19 vaccine; partially vaccinated ≥14 days after receipt of the first dose and <14 days after the second dose in a 2-dose series; and unvaccinated <14 days receipt of the first dose of a 2-dose series or 1 dose of the single-dose vaccine or if no vaccination registry data were available

This is just another way to screw with the numbers. . . .
 
 
"Vaccine" efficiency falls off after 5 or 6 months.
people attending a recent festival in Cornwall who all had to be vaccinated to attend have been spreading the virus.
so whats the point in being vaccinated?
I just avoid other people, it works for me and I'm not vaccinated and never will be.
 
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