Arcticdude
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The organic designation only matters if you're selling your crop. In the grocery store organic just means that you'll pay a much higher price for things. I stay away from anything labeled organic.
1. While organic guidelines are Federal most states govern their own state certifications. Having gardened in several different states the enforcement and interpretation greatly differs between states.There are national organic standards set by the USDA. I do not believe the above ruling adheres to that guide line at all. Nor do I believe that the determination of that falls under the perimeter of I am assuming a county DA. You can believe what you like, I read the Certification for this state. My blueberries are organic & I have the right to sale them as organic for twenty years now. Our rule is five years last I read the rules, how do you get to water it down to three years.
I agree with you EW. I do not buy organic anything but simply strive to produce my own. The whole certification process requirement is vague and the restrictions ridiculous in many cases. All so people can charge more for their produce. There are so many instances of things being labeled organic that are not that it truly is a rip off in many instances.If you give your cows or horses antibiotics, and then use their natural fertilizer, it’s not organic In authorities minds.
I agree with AD- it’s a scam to get more $$$. I avoid the labeled organic most of the time.
I have been forced to buy hard boiled organic eggs at a big box store. They go bad well before their expiration date. Regular ones don’t. Thats why they are on the business center list.
EXACTLY!! I sold organic produce off my farm for years and my customers did not need a certification sticker to buy it. They came back year after year because I sold a good product for a fair price. They could walk through my fields or visit any time if they wanted to see how it was grown.Everything i raise and grow here is "organic". It doesn't matter to me because I would never get a government designation for anything I sell. The people that buy my beef know how it was raised.
You sound like Joel Salatin pasture grown meats & vegetables. I love that guy, he is down to earth & up to date all at the same time.Everything i raise and grow here is "organic". It doesn't matter to me because I would never get a government designation for anything I sell. The people that buy my beef know how it was raised.
LOL, I did just the opposite, I started roasting at home AFTER I retired. Thought about going commercial, but...We produced organic coffee & herbs for an nationwide grocery, before I retired have them so I use them.
I did the bean plant thing as a teenager. You do not have to soak them, just plant in good earth in a paper cup or paper egg carton and keep them wet. Shortly after they come up you can put them in the ground.My neighbor took store bought dried beans, soaked them overnight and planted. The are growing. I had no idea this could be done.
That all sounds great Arctic, but I hope you are not overloading your wife with her bad foot. That is a lot of canning and freezing it sounds like.We picked the garlic a couple days ago and are getting a few tomatoes now. Still getting a lot of raspberries and the blackberries are about a week away, and looks like a bumper crop. The pie cherries are ready to pick, and the apple and plum trees are loaded with fruit and are probably a month away from being ripe. The rabbits are eating the tops of the onions. I'll get a trap set for them today. We have some nice sized watermelon that should be ready in a week or so. The corn is starting to get some ears, might be ready in a couple of weeks.
Nothing goes into my garden except cow manure, cut grass and leaves, the compost we make and once a year a light dusting of the normal potassium, nitrates (only 5 lbs. in the whole garden of 20,000 sq. ft.) and ashes from our wood fired heater in the garage in the winter. Absolutely organic down the the well water used to water it all with...not even city water on the garden.Everything i raise and grow here is "organic".
We blend hundreds of pounds of coffee & we blended tea also, but that is another story.LOL, I did just the opposite, I started roasting at home AFTER I retired. Thought about going commercial, but...
Once I got it figured out, and found good inexpensive sources of coffee, it's cheaper than buying supermarket roasted coffee.
Right now all the berry's are being frozen, except for some that she made juice out of. I can't keep that woman out of the garden. Then she can't sleep at night from the pain.That all sounds great Arctic, but I hope you are not overloading your wife with her bad foot. That is a lot of canning and freezing it sounds like.
Helen had stomach and throat cancer...has no stomach any more, one third less throat and she cannot eat slowly and then JUST SIT for a half hour after eating (LIKE THE DOC SAID) and also cannot eat late evenings without coughing up some of it if her pillow is not at the right angle to keep her head higher than her throat...had her right arm paralysed for half a year after the BS doctor twisted her neck "as therapy" and severed a nerve in her neck C5 area. She lost most of her muscle strength and never got it back...she still tries to work in the garden, house, cleaning, washing, vacuuming, walking the dog, etc, etc, and still cries at night that she can't sleep from the pain....we both have wives with the SAME BLOOD TYPE: work till you drop - negative....I can't keep that woman out of the garden. Then she can't sleep at night from the pain.
We own a small-business that sells heirloom / non GMO seeds if you guys are looking for alternative suppliers. You can find us here: Vegetable seeds, non GMO seeds to buy or learn aboutWe got our first seed catalog a few days ago, Butler Creek i think. Got the Murry McMurray chicken catalog too. The wife and I are getting our orders together for seeds and chicks. We want to get our orders in early in case there's any shortages this spring.
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