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Russia Versus The Ukraine
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Ling I have no problem believing that the Soviets were worse than the Nazis, or that the Nazis were stalwarts of anti-Communism. Doesn't make the Nazis good. They were both bad, but the Soviets just had longer to practice their evil than the Nazis did.
Illini I think I did mention the allied expeditionary force in my previous reply which included many other allied nations including yours. Their reasons for being in Russia are various. For some it was to do with the success that the Germans were having on the eastern front. For others they were more concerned with the Bolsheviks taking Russia out of the war with the signing of the Brest agreement. This all came in stages and with different contingents arriving when they were able. Others like Winston Churchill in one of his more visionary moments of enlightenment being a Zionist was horrified at the ideology of the Bolsheviks. As to the American side of things they were stationed at Arkangel and Vladivostok they were there for a number of purposes. That being to protect the Siberian railway and American assets. That being the massive stock piles of munitions originally meant for the Russian army in its war with Germany . And maybe also to keep a eye on any Japanese.territorial expansion into Siberia. The Americans were also there to help the Czechoslovak legion of some 40 thousand to evacuate for the western front in the European theatre of war. As to fighting the Bolsheviks that was never president Wilsons interest or desire nor the reality to fight the Bolsheviks . As there was very few Bolshevik forces in that area of Siberia at the time. All nations did leave Russia at different stages once the Bolshevik take over and leadership were officially recognised.
Dr Henley why is the Third Reich always portrayed as pure evil even more so by most when compared to the communist ideology that had destroyed the best of Russia.and eventually had.it’s way with most of Europe too. Whose ideology is alive and well in China today and in your nation and my country and many other nations throughout the world . So tell me what made National Socialist Germany just a little less evil than communism. I’d like to know
he's nothing but a troll - just look at his postings - no prepper content - just political trolling - hit the abuse button and lets Trotsky his azz ....
Just my musings on the subject, I don't have all the answers. (however I did read the entire unabridged Gulag Archipelago
)The Nazis were more up front about it, maybe even more "honest" about it (?), while the Communists are more insidious and lie about everything. That makes the Nazis seem more evil on the surface while the Communists always have some stupid explanation that the sheople believe.
If you judge purely by how many lives were destroyed, there is no comparison, the Communists win the "baddie award" hands down. But like I said, they had more time to practice.
My problem was with you calling the Third Reich a "bastion of freedom." That had me scratching my head.
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This is not merely a prepper site . Maybe you have tunnel vision upon reading the many different forums You seem to have a history of calling anyone a troll who disagrees with you. As to my azz. Keep your hands off my azz vegemite boy
Dr Henley I can understand why you may scratch your head. But you must look upon the situation of why many willingly chose to fight for the Third Reich . The Bolshevik tyranny was known well enough throughout Europe for its murderous debauchery whenever communism took control of a nation little lone it’s own people. When you refer to Alexander Solzhenitsyns Archipelago from the classic trilogy. You be referring to a similar barbarity in the German concentration camps as well. I do recall Germans bayoneting Belgium babies for fun in the First World War and crucifying Canadian soldiers upon crosses. All were mere allied propaganda stories but at least we had the decency to call them just propaganda at wars end. The 2nd word war was much different. Propaganda lies remain as truth and now as law until this very day. Glad you have a unabridged copy of Archipelago as much of Solzhenitsyns work is often edited for political reasons. It’s very hard to find a trustworthy English edition of his last great work 200 yrs together
It's available online now and I have a copy. At the time, I had to check out an ancient copy at the public library. I can't vouch for the accuracy of the translation, but the book made a HUGE impression on me.
No, I'm referring to the idiocy and inhumanity of the Soviet policies and the devastation it caused to ordinary Russians, such as this passage (which really stuck in my mind):
In 1934 Pskov agronomists sowed flax on the snow--exactly as Lysenko had ordered. The seeds swelled up, grew moldy, and died. The big fields lay empty for a year. Lysenko could not say that the snow was a kulak or that he himself was an ### (arse). He accused the agronomists of being kulaks and of distorting his technology.
And the agronomists went off to Siberia.
Mountain Dragon
A True Doomsday Prepper
At the end it dosn't matter who killed how many or which system has killed more in shorter time.
Somehow all are guilty and always was people killed for any system, power or idiology.
Mayans killed for religion and territory, later the spanish did the same with them. Who's now the better one?
In America where natives killed or arrested in reservates because they disturbed and owned the land.
The British Empire killed people as Spanish, Portogues, Germans, French and all other did.
In the crusades, muslims and christians killed each other for their beliefs.
Hitler killed about power and idiology.
Stalin did the same.
Mao killed about power and idiology too.
The USA started some wars about the same reason.
Which one is now the worse or the better? At the end always humans died because someone was greedy, wants more territory, power, religion or idiology.
An ranking list for this is useless.
Somehow all are guilty and always was people killed for any system, power or idiology.
Mayans killed for religion and territory, later the spanish did the same with them. Who's now the better one?
In America where natives killed or arrested in reservates because they disturbed and owned the land.
The British Empire killed people as Spanish, Portogues, Germans, French and all other did.
In the crusades, muslims and christians killed each other for their beliefs.
Hitler killed about power and idiology.
Stalin did the same.
Mao killed about power and idiology too.
The USA started some wars about the same reason.
Which one is now the worse or the better? At the end always humans died because someone was greedy, wants more territory, power, religion or idiology.
An ranking list for this is useless.
It defies logic. But who can know the malignantly of evil from ones heart and mind when God is erased from blackboard of ones culture . Now much late. Sleep time
And there is always someone grabbing something which belongs to someone else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Every generation makes the same "mistakes" FOR PROFITS and the same generation teaches their kids the "way of the money" so the money STAYS IN THE FAMILY.......bidump, peloshit, scummer, matty, suckos and gateovich.....
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...-banning-opposition-parties-seizing-property/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...-banning-opposition-parties-seizing-property/
The Crusades were a lot more complicated than what most people know. In the Fourth Crusade, instead of attacking Jerusalem like they were supposed to, the Crusaders first sacked the Catholic city of Zara, and then conspired with an exiled Byzantine prince to capture Constantinople (the largest Christian city on the world at that time) and help him restore his deposed father as the Byzantine Emperor. They did and received payments from the prince after he was crowned co-emperor with his father. But the prince and his father were deposed in an uprising and when the Crusaders no longer were able to be paid, they just decided to sack Constantinople and keep the loot for themselves...which caused the Pope to excommunicate them. Meanwhile Muslims protected Greek Orthodox Christians from the Crusaders.
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Mountain Dragon
A True Doomsday Prepper
Even it was more complicated, at the end it was about idiologies, power, religion and money.
and murder and manslaughter.
Mostly money and power. Not much has changed...
The partial recapture of the Ukrainian border by soldiers of Ukraine was reported today by our media with great joy and with many pictures, unfortunately our media did not publish the first part of the video.
https://t.me/putin6/3070
Lifehack for Ukrainian warriors: if you always carry a border guard, you can make a video about entering the state border every day
https://t.me/putin6/3070
Lifehack for Ukrainian warriors: if you always carry a border guard, you can make a video about entering the state border every day
Reportedly also 30,000 jews in a single day in Jerusalem alone. VERY CHRISTIAN LIKE; OR???
They can make up any war footage they want now using the latest video games.
https://thepostmillennial.com/msnbc...o-game-clip-claiming-its-ukraine-war-footage/
https://thepostmillennial.com/msnbc...o-game-clip-claiming-its-ukraine-war-footage/
