To vacc or not to vacc?

[Proud Prepper]

The vax has caused some people severe problems and even death. It was deployed on a broader scale than necessary. Most of us agree on that.
This won't be popular so get ready to use a month's worth of tolerance on this one:
Plenty of people died before the vax....from the same things kills vax'd people today.
Just because you hear about it more today doesn't mean there is more of it today.
The vax talk is starting to sound like climate change. Hot day = climate change, Cold day = also climate change
In the year 2069, somebody dies from heart disease at 87 years old, 47 years after vax'd, will it be the vax that killed them?
Can we come up with a year that once everyone makes it past that year, we can say it may not have been the vax that killed them? I'm also up for picking the year that climate change is over too.

Excess deaths are up over 50% in 2022 and 2023 and where even up in 2021, but not in 2020. Miscarriages, stillbirth and disabilities are at an all time high since 2021 and getting higher. Look at the raw insurance companies actuaries.

It will never be over. mRNA is forever, unless reversed.

 

[DrHenley]

The vax has caused some people severe problems and even death. It was deployed on a broader scale than necessary. Most of us agree on that.
This won't be popular so get ready to use a month's worth of tolerance on this one:
Plenty of people died before the vax....from the same things kills vax'd people today.
Just because you hear about it more today doesn't mean there is more of it today.
The vax talk is starting to sound like climate change. Hot day = climate change, Cold day = also climate change
In the year 2069, somebody dies from heart disease at 87 years old, 47 years after vax'd, will it be the vax that killed them?
Can we come up with a year that once everyone makes it past that year, we can say it may not have been the vax that killed them? I'm also up for picking the year that climate change is over too.

Senior citizens dying of heart attacks and cancer is one thing. Healthy young adults dropping dead left and right for no apparent reason is another thing entirely.
If you Google "Sudden Adult Death" you'll find a slew of articles talking about this new trend (most articles adamantly insist that it is unrelated to the COVID vaccine). The trend is real, and even if they won't admit it's related to the vaccine, they can't ignore it.
Although there is a smattering of articles from years ago, there was a sudden uptick of articles in 2022 - after the introduction of the mRNA vaccine.
Now you might be tempted to think that it was due to COVID, not the vaccine. Then why didn't anyone see this trend BEFORE the mRNA vaccine was released? It should have started in 2020, but didn't start until 2022 or late 2021.

 

[M0del_31]

I cannot address all the statistical increases in illnesses and deaths for a variety of reasons like the source of the studies, who funded them, how the deaths are counted by whom...etc. I believe there are too many variables that prevent isolating a single cause. For example the first vaccines came out 1 week have the Nov 2020 election and I remember that because I thought then, "well, everyone voted, then the vaccine comes out a week later...what a coincidence." Surely big pharma didn't sit on it until the election had passed...also the lock downs that isolated everyone and we eradicated the flu for about 18 months...
There are going to be more mRNA articles written because that vax type was available and the public demanded information so the people that write articles wrote about it. They happen to be the same people that don't understand technology or guns but still write on them because it is how they get paid.
In the old media, "if it bleeds, it leads"
Today the algorithm says "if you clicks, send more flicks"
If you click on an article, you'll see more like it. If I google "sudden adult death" it is very likely I won't see the exact same search results as you. The results may be similar but they could be geared to lead us in different directions. We know twitter and facebook fomented public distain for Trump, shadow banned conservatives and hatred for republicans. We also know that big tech algorithms provide different search results and feeds for deep red areas vs blue areas. Its the same with political advertisements. I don't believe one can use their own experience using mass media, social media to form a actual data based opinion on the topic.
It is the same phenomenon going as why I do not believe I really know what's going on in Ukraine. Too much agenda, too much algorithm filtering.
I'm not saying it impossible for the vax to impact death stats. I believe the waters are too muddied with biased data for me to draw a conclusion that its only because of the vax. I'd probably have to chair the studies myself to be confident in such a claim.

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

Insurance company data is valid. It isn’t funded by any groups or government. Their data ALL show the huge uptick in death in the 18 to 50 range. Anyone still denying the Vax is responsible is in deep denial. Sorry to be blunt, but truth matters.

 

[M0del_31]

Insurance company data is valid. It isn’t funded by any groups or government. Their data ALL show the huge uptick in death in the 18 to 50 range. Anyone still denying the Vax is responsible is in deep denial. Sorry to be blunt, but truth matters.

ok, insurance data is one set of data. Have a link to the data? Not a link to a article about the data but actual data. Does this data distinquish between vax'd and unvax'd?

 

[Proud Prepper]

ok, insurance data is one set of data. Have a link to the data? Not a link to a article about the data but actual data. Does this data distinquish between vax'd and unvax'd?

Would it realy matter if we gave you all that information?

So you know that I know, Cobridge Communications was a cable television, high-speed internet, and digital telephone service provider that went defunct in 2012.

 

[M0del_31]

How about provide the link so we’re looking at the same data?
Does CoBridge host the data?

 

[poltiregist]

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[Robinjopo1]

I had to go to my Allergy doctor today and he had the vax as soon as it was offered. I was telling him about my brother just to see what he thought and he just looked at me and said "oh, yes."

 

[poltiregist]

ok, insurance data is one set of data. Have a link to the data? Not a link to a article about the data but actual data. Does this data distinquish between vax'd and unvax'd?

We are on page 80 of this topic . Model 31 - I see you joined little over three years ago and perhaps did not see this thread or something . It's just hard to grasp someone not knowing of the planet's die off from the so called Covid Cure . Just go through this thread starting with page one and more information than you likely have time to digest will come up . It has gone from warnings to the fulfilment of many of those warnings . Now we are in the stage of simply watching people die .

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

Link to a ton of data…



Link for very informative video that Dani posted…

https://www.doomsdayprepperforums.com/threads/to-vacc-or-not-to-vacc.14513/page-76
From the video…

He hired a Wall Street insurance data specialist as well as two PhD Physicists to analyze the data.

They have taken the insurance data as well as the mortuary data from the USA, Germany, Australia and UK and analyzed it for excess mortality. The results are nothing less than SHOCKING and proven to be FAR greater than even a 200 year anomaly.


Anyone still in doubt that this vax was made to depopulate the earth really needs to start reading and watching those strong individuals who have already devoted years of their lives to figure out what the hell happened!!

 

[user 6208]

If you ask an unvaccinated person of their status they proudly say nope. If you ask a vaccinated person, they usually get defensive.

People do not like hearing the truth. Asking a COVidiot is they got the vaccine makes them angry because they know they shouldn't have done it.

 

[Marjie]

A few weeks ago I asked for a method to detox my sil who is badly affected by the vaccines. Although my daughter don’t agree on the cause she started him on the list I sent her and I am happy to report that he has begun to improve. How much it helps remains to be seen but it is encouraging. He has had 4 poison shots!

 

[GaRp58]

 

[user 6208]

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He's pointing out how all Communist propaganda must exist in a vacuum in order to be believed.

Once you put their lies into context, they fall apart immediately. This is why they try so hard to control the schools and the media.

 

[Danil54grl]

He actually spoke out against his experience of getting the vaxx and now he is dead. . .

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/07/bodybuilder-jo-linder-passes-away-30-aneurysm-alleges/

 

[EastenerWesterner]

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The script for my dogs Epipen was 1/3 of a human. And covered by insurance.

 

[GaRp58]

The script for my dogs Epipen was 1/3 of a human. And covered by insurance.

LINE THEM ALL UP AND VAXX THEM ALL 4-5 TIMES AND LOCK THEM IN A CAGE UNDER 24/7 online streaming so the whole world can take live time bets on who dies first and from what side-effects.....

 

[Oddcaliber]

I'm in!

 

[DrHenley]

Actress Katerina Pavelek had such horrible side effects from the jab she decided to have an assisted suicide.