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Sorry I will stop now and do it correctI have tried to “have it all” living in the "real world" but also seriously prepping. By making our retreat essentially in town, close to everything, by involving and sharing the financial load with like minded people, by not isolating and having everyone keep a foot in the real world, we have so far for the last 31 years kept our jobs, had normal families, lived in normal communities, taken family vacations, and still had the option to bug out in serious style if things get bad.
I know how reply works now.early communist red guard in the Sovjet revolution, where a leader was "elected" in a shouting election..
WOW,WOW! Bill those are amazing! That Kansas place is like a fancy hotel or more! We can never do that good! 15 floors - that is maybe 45 m deep? Wow! And I wonder if people who also have big place can go visit that place or do you have to pay the money to see it?The Kansas super bunker has about 60 residents I think but they dont all live their permanently, same as the Xpoint in south Dakota .
Dave, I know you are probably already sleep but I stay up all night because no work tomorrow!Let me know if I am boring you with too much detail as you may be more interested in group organization than training etc. I can opine on that as well.
never feel ashamed of what you and your group built, it's something you all did, with the resources available.Dave, I know you are probably already sleep but I stay up all night because no work tomorrow!
I am sorry I did not reply quick because I am a little bit embarrassed when I see all those places like the Kansas deep place and your group and the Xplace. The Xplace looked nice, but I think it is maybe just digital concept or maybe no one lives there yet to take the photos? I would like to trade my sinkhole for the Kansas place now - wow!
When you did the message to me you asked me about surface - Top of sinkhole is back to the little lake about 0.5 m deep. 2 entrances other locations so no problems with water. When we found sinkhole, it was already the little lake and we used pump for many days. Lake makes sinkhole invisible so that is why we have the electricity problem because we need safe place for solar and trees are very difficult for mounting and field is not safe from stealing. Do that make sense?
And I am sorry that we do not live near the food store so we can do your idea to keep food good. I think now we will be safe for about a week and then everyone will have to leave. I know we will never be able to do the 5 year cruise idea but I think 4 weeks may be a goal for us to achieve!
I am sure I am making many mistakes tonight because I am very tired and the Google Translate helps me say good sentences but it is harder when I get tired! So I will sleep anyway!
Get out of town! That's awesome!When you did the message to me you asked me about surface - Top of sinkhole is back to the little lake about 0.5 m deep. 2 entrances other locations so no problems with water. When we found sinkhole, it was already the little lake and we used pump for many days. Lake makes sinkhole invisible so that is why we have the electricity problem because we need safe place for solar and trees are very difficult for mounting and field is not safe from stealing. Do that make sense?
. Do you know some way to make the electricity that can not be seen?
Thank you so much!As for your solar problem, we have an electrical engineer who does our solar array and I will ask him. I know he has been working with a couple of other groups on underwater solar cells. I obviously wasn't paying attention, but I know he was excited about a particular type that he said worked quite well. Cost and availability may be an issue, but maybe you can experiment with one and go from there?
Your "replacing a lake with a lake" idea gives you fantastic camouflage!
I know you said your engineer is very good, so I expect your structure can handle that load.
Very creative!
Bill, no water moving near lake. I like very much the hydrogen idea but a little worried about temperature of the water because government use FLIR on helicopters for drug and other things. I wish we could do the geothermal because that would fix all problems. Not possible I think. There is the electricity in house only one kilometer away, but it will be a very long wire, but maybe we can do that for when not SHTF. Good idea to exhaust generator into lake from bottom - we can do that for sure! Thank you!Concealled (under water) hydro electric micro turbines, Pressurised geothermal ?? Hydrogen fuel cell. liquid cooled, insulated and cased diesel genny exhausting into a stream or river???
TMT, we have a problem with the kids that like to fish in lake. If island they WILL walk or swim to get to island for SURE! Maybe some reed plants would do same with no island?Fake island in the middle of your lake. Anchor the fake island in the middle of the lake. Create tall fake brush on the perimeter of the fake island. Install hidden solar panels behind the fake brush / big rocks. Run power cables under the water down into your compound. Save the generator to run back up batteries, when the weather does not cooperate. You can even have a fake looking windmill (real working windmill) in the middle of the island. Nothing to draw enough curiosity, that would invite a closer look. Lots of options, look outside the box.
Helen,What's the male/female ratio in your groups?
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