bigpaul
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hell I dont care what is happening 30 miles away.
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EricB1970
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It sure would be nice to know if we're being invaded so you have time to prepare....
EricB1970
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Anyone, the Chinese, etc.
And I'd think it'd be nice to know you're going to be having guests before they show up at your front door while you're shagging the wife.
Maybe you won't but I certainly will!
That has to be simply the most well thought out, lucid, intelligent argument I have ever heard.
I am at a loss for words.
(SARC OFF)
EricB1970
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Apparently you don't care about events that can affect you that are miles away.
I certainly do.
Music is a good prep! Morale is just as important as food.
All civilization, even down to the most remote tribes, typically depend on teamwork and bartering to achieve a higher level of comfort. When SHTF, most of us will likely be fine as recluse family units living in reasonable isolation, but as time passes, you may want to hear what the rest of the world is doing and perhaps reach out to it for something whether it be for resources you do not have or just comradery. Two things are certain. 1- living in isolation with the same people, never escaping their presence, tends to lead to a level of comfortability in disagreement and subsequent hostility amongst friends and family, and 2- loneliness and a desire to interact, even for the most introverted of people out there.
I have never understood this single mindedness within the prepper community: There will be only one EMP attack.
It never occurs to anyone that the "enemy" would launch a secondary EMP strike 72-96 hours later. About then is when most local, state and federal governments, and the military would have the basics of their C4 back on line.
Then, WHAMO! The secondary strike.
So, if you have survived the primary strike, sitting there, generator going, got your comms up and running, patting yourself on the back . . . WHAMO!
It is not like the "enemy" is going to send you a personal message via morse code.
It is what I would do.
Also, I am fully aware of what RADBAN can do, to include spoofing.
It never occurs to anyone that the "enemy" would launch a secondary EMP strike 72-96 hours later. About then is when most local, state and federal governments, and the military would have the basics of their C4 back on line.
Then, WHAMO! The secondary strike.
So, if you have survived the primary strike, sitting there, generator going, got your comms up and running, patting yourself on the back . . . WHAMO!
It is not like the "enemy" is going to send you a personal message via morse code.
It is what I would do.
Also, I am fully aware of what RADBAN can do, to include spoofing.
As it is, we visit our neighbors on a even so-called COVID lockdown on a regular basis. Sure, we might have to walk to their house, rather than drive, but the walk will do us some good. I expect we will be doing a lot of it.
I expect we will be doing a lot more chatting with the Amish then we currently do.
Know what is going to affect me a lot more than what is going on in DC, or in LA? The weather.
If it is from a solar flare, then yes, there will only be one. But if the problem is man-made, then it will be localized to a very small area, not the entire country. Certain infrastructure will be targeted, it will not be a blanket attack. There are two ways to make an EMP, nuclear blast and explosively pumped (with conventional explosives) flux compression devices. Both are extremely expensive.
Yes, they are expensive.
Russia and China have more than a few at their disposal.
When I say strike, that is not limited to a single device, but could be two or more.
backandbeyond
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Comms definately! Also a few solar pocket calculators may come in handy? I have some small MP3 players and a million lectures and music mp3's I wouldn't mind listening to in retirement. My video collection! My radiation detectors definitely! My LED torches. The list is long and they are all stand-alone technologies basically. I could go back to reading books in candle light if I had to but the hard won tech we have today would be much nicer to use.
I even have a few small solar regulators packed away, just enough to charge batteries for the above items. Most of this stuff fit's in 500g coffee tins and they seal well against emp/cme events. I even have a couple of huge cabin biscuit tins that have excellent seals. Cages can be problematic, I leave those for the experimenters.
Consider this, if you were the "enemy" launching an EMP strike on the US, would you half-arse it? Or go all in?
LOL!
That is quite the list.
Per my USMC training, always go the most simplest, low tech, i.e. hard way. Usually leads to less complication, less resource consumption, and is the easiest.
Video is nice. But I prefer books, on hand. I have one room that is a library. And I need more shelves for more books. Besides, I can loan or trade with my Amish neighbors books vs a podcast/video.
backandbeyond
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I have a heap of printed books as well, and probably read them as much as I read off the computer. But even though I have books like "Solar Energy and Building" by Szokolay, the textbook for building passive/heated heated homes, I have not read much of it. It's a fall back, a great tool in an energy starved world but too much hard work to bother with even today. For me at least. It was written in 1975 around the time of the first oil crises when it was obvious to all concerned that the world's stocks of fossil fuels were limited and would eventually runout, in all practical terms, sometime in the 21st century.
Back then long-term thinking was encouraged, but not since then. Today people, if they even know about it, believe oil depletion is not an issue. Politicians and industry has lied to the masses about this and no one has prepared. They should have built those better homes but no one wanted to pay the price. The did quite the opposite in fact, just look at the garbage built in the last two decades that passes for homes. But like I said, I don't care because I bought an older brick home with good insulative properties and am happy to burn wood in winter and use my solar electricity to cool it.
I agree in principle with this"
In the modern world we all use hitech, posting here is an example. These technologies were hard won, as I said, and worth protecting, at least enough to see me out. Others can make their own arrangements. I for one an not going to live in the stoneage until I am forced to by decree or circumstances. It's all fine and dandy to mill grain by hand, telling yourself how smart and resilient you are, but if 20 years later you are still doing that and the electricity is still on, well you are a Luddite in my opinion.
Captjim_NM
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Books, that is interesting. I keep a small library of survival books packed away. Good point about a second EMP blast! That would finish off any organized defence. Me, I am going to buy a horse!
I know we shouldn't pay too much attention to hollywood guff, but they seem to have got it right in this clip from 'The Day After' where cars and a motorbike are stranded on the highway because an enemy EMP blast has fried their ignitions-
Amish Heart
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Hey Dropship....I wasn't terribly impressed with the "Survivors" series, but I did like the "Jericho" series. Did you see that?
KateMTx
A True Doomsday Prepper
The one set in Kansas where the US gets nuked and Cheyenne becomes the new capital?
That is a good one to show how the apocalypse could happen where the ones behind it profit from it. That's what I call a "managed apocalypse" vs. a natural one that humans can't control. I spend a lot of time coming up with scenarios and trying to decide which would be worse. Certainly for EMPs then a solar flare would be the most likely natural source and there are several ways someone might cause one artificially, including using nuclear weapons.
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