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The verdict is in. Honey works to soothe a burn. In some novels i have read, honey has been used as a natural healing ointment. Seems to be true.

Woah there Ma'am currently there is a global ongoing scandal of pure honey being diluted by all sorts of syrups and sugars and they are NOT sterile.
UK
https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/10412499/tesco-own-brand-honey-diluted-cheap-syrup-sugar/
US
https://www.economist.com/united-states/2018/08/30/the-scourge-of-honey-fraud
Europe
https://www.euractiv.com/section/ag...-how-europe-is-being-flooded-with-fake-honey/
Australia
https://www.smh.com.au/business/con...ustralian-sourced-brands-20181002-p507ar.html
 
that's bad news,mate :(

we use medical honey at the hospital ER ward to start the treatment of varoius wounds people have, the big problem is,this is my opinion, that many of the junior doc's don't know enough of wound treatment and it puts us,"the boots on the ground" to find out and many times tell the doc's our proposal what to do and how often..I don't mind,I learn,but it's above my pay grade to make decisions of that..
 
Steal with your eyes and ears. Anything you see or hear is info and input. Give it a try and watch how the advice from the higher paygrades works out...BTW, did you see the new female member from Finland? MillaMagia.
 
Nope,that I did not, darn,are my people waking up??

every day there is something new and I promised when I got out of school ; "if you ever here me saying, I know all and everything you cannot teach me anything", pls take metal pole and bash it on my head 'cause I'm stupid ;)
 
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If this was true,then half of the ones that say 100% raw unfiltered honey would be fake. Most all the ones I see at my grocery claim this on the product. How can they advertise this if it's not true?

There were 2 large studies in the last 2 years that found 70-80% of store-bought honey legally cannot be called 'honey'. They heat sugar, it turns brown, then flood with water. Makes lovely honey-like substances. Just look at honey on the store shelves & where it comes from. Usually they list a half dozen countries, and the US. They mix a tiny bit of real honey into it, and slap a label on it.

This is no different than 'fake news'. The rule is that if you don't know the beekeeper, then you probably don't have real honey.
 
You are not stupid, just on a different step in the ladder of evolution of mankind. There will always be someone knowing more and someone knowing less than you.
We each have our lessons to learn and if we learn, we advance. If we refuse to learn, then we stand still and the world passes us by. Each problem brings with it a gift. Solve the problem and you gain the gift. (wisdom). Just knowing something is like a computer, a bunch of knowledge in a box. Only then when you actively USE something you have learned is when knowledge becomes "wisdom". Knowledge in action. Do not be knowledgeable, Be wise. GP
 
Did you know in South Africa they use SUGAR to treat wounds.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20180328-how-sugar-could-help-heal-wounds

Doctors are finding one way that sugar can benefit your health: it may help heal wounds when antibiotics fail.

By Clara Wiggins
30th March 2018


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As a child growing up in poverty in the rural Eastern Highlands of Zimbabwe, Moses Murandu was used to having salt literally rubbed in his wounds when he fell and cut himself. On lucky days, though, his father had enough money to buy something which stung the boy much less than salt: sugar.

Murandu always noticed that sugar seemed to help heal wounds more quickly than no treatment at all. So he was surprised when, having been recruited to come to work as a nurse for the UK’s National Health System (NHS) in 1997, he found that sugar wasn’t being used in any official capacity. He decided to try to change that.

Now, Murandu’s idea finally is being taken seriously. A senior lecturer in adult nursing at the University of Wolverhampton, Murandu completed an initial pilot study focussed on sugar’s applications in wound healing and won an award from the Journal of Wound Care in March 2018 for his work.

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In some parts of the world, this procedure could be key because people cannot afford antibiotics. But there is interest in the UK, too, since once a wound is infected, it sometimes won’t respond to antibiotics.

To treat a wound with sugar, all you do, Murandu says, is pour the sugar on the wound and apply a bandage on top. The granules soak up any moisture that allows bacteria to thrive. Without the bacteria, the wound heals more quickly.



Evidence for all of this was found in Murandu’s trials in the lab. And a growing collection of case studies from around the world has supported Murandu’s findings, including examples of successful sugar treatments on wounds containing bacteria resistant to antibiotics. Even so, Murandu faces an uphill battle. Funding for further research would help him reach his ultimate goal – to convince the NHS to use sugar as an alternative to antibiotics. But a great deal of medical research is funded by pharmaceutical companies. And these companies, he points out, have little to gain from paying for research into something they can’t patent.

The sugar is the plain, granulated type you might use to sweeten your tea
The sugar Murandu uses is the plain, granulated type you might use to sweeten your tea. In the same in vitro trials, he found that there was no difference between using cane or beet sugar. Demerara, however, wasn’t as effective.

The pilot showed that strains of bacteria grew in low concentrations of sugar but were completely inhibited in higher concentrations. Murandu started recording case studies in Zimbabwe, Botswana, and Lesotho (where he first trained in nursing). Included among them is a woman living in Harare.

“The woman’s foot had been measured, ready to be amputated, when my nephew called me,” Murandu says. “She had had a terrible wound for five years, and the doctor wanted to amputate. I told her to wash the wound, apply sugar, leave it and repeat.

“The woman still has her leg.”

This, he says, is one example of why there is so much interest in his methods, particularly from parts of the world where people can’t afford antibiotics.



In total, Murandu has now carried out clinical studies on 41 patients in the UK. He hasn’t yet published the trial results but has presented them at national and international conferences. One question he had to answer during his research was whether sugar could be used on diabetic patients, who commonly have leg and foot ulcers. Diabetics need to control the level of glucose in their blood so this isn’t an obvious healing method to use on them.

But he found that it worked for diabetics without sending their glucose levels soaring. “Sugar is sucrose – you need the enzyme sucrase to convert that into glucose,” he says. As sucrase is found within the body, it is only when the sugar is absorbed that it is converted. Applying it to the outside of the wound isn’t going to affect it in the same way.

While Murandu continues his research on human patients, across the Atlantic US veterinarian Maureen McMichael has been using this healing method on animals for years.

McMichael, who works at the University of Illinois Veterinary Teaching Hospital, first started using both sugar and honey on pets back in 2002. She said it was a combination of the simplicity of the method and the low cost that attracted her – especially for pet owners who couldn’t afford the usual methods of bringing the animal to the hospital and using sedation.

McMichael says that they keep both sugar and honey in their surgery and often used it on dogs and cats (and occasionally on farm animals). Honey has similar healing properties to sugar (one study found it to be even more effective at inhibiting bacterial growth), though it is more expensive.

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The sugar treatment may work on wounds afflicting not only people, but pets (Credit: Getty Images)

“We have had some really great successes with this,” McMichael says. She gave an example of a stray dog that had come to them after being used as “pitbull bait”, hung from a harness and attacked by pitbulls being trained for fighting. The dog came in with up to 40 bite wounds on each limb – and was healed within eight weeks.

“She was a stray so there was no money for her. We treated her with both honey and sugar and she did fabulously,” McMichael says. “She’s all healed now.”

As well as being cheaper, sugar has another upside: as more and more antibiotics are used, we are becoming resistant to them.

As well as being cheaper, sugar has another upside: as more and more antibiotics are used, we are becoming resistant to them
Back in the UK, tissue engineering specialist Sheila MacNeil of the University of Sheffeld has researched how naturally occurring sugars can be used to stimulate the re-growth of blood vessels. Her research stemmed from from her work on tumours, when she noticed that one particular small sugar derived from the breakdown of DNA (2-deoxy-D-ribose) kept cropping up. MacNeil’s team experimented by applying this sugar to the membrane surrounding chick embryos. According to MacNeil, the sugar stimulated double the number of blood vessels than would grow without it.

But of course these types of naturally occurring sugars found in our bodies are a long way from the type of everyday sugar used by Murandu in his experiments. The “dream ticket”, MacNeil says, would be to find a sugar that could be used in both ways. She believes this is the next step research should take.

Meanwhile in Wolverhampton, Murandu’s plan is to set up a private clinic using his sugar method. He hopes that one day sugar will be commonly used, not only by the NHS but also at public hospitals in some of the other countries where he has been working. He continues to get regular emails from around the world, asking for his advice – and guides patients remotely over email and texting. His far-away clients send him photos of their results along with their gratitude when they are healed.

It is an ancient method and one used unofficially by many poor people in developing countries, but for Murandu it was only by coming to the UK that he realised the significance sugar could have in the medical world. He sees it as a blending of his local knowledge with the modern research facilities in Britain.

“Like sugar, the knowledge came raw from Zimbabwe, was refined here – and is now going back to help people in Africa,” he says.

This story is a part of BBC Britain – a series focused on exploring this extraordinary island, one story at a time. Readers outside of the UK can see every BBC Britain story by heading to the Britain homepage; you also can see our latest stories by following us on Facebook and Twitter.
 
There were 2 large studies in the last 2 years that found 70-80% of store-bought honey legally cannot be called 'honey'. They heat sugar, it turns brown, then flood with water. Makes lovely honey-like substances. Just look at honey on the store shelves & where it comes from. Usually they list a half dozen countries, and the US. They mix a tiny bit of real honey into it, and slap a label on it.

This is no different than 'fake news'. The rule is that if you don't know the beekeeper, then you probably don't have real honey.

I dont find this to be true here. I have never opened a container of honey and gotten anything other than pure honey. Most of the brands here in south lousiana are from local beekeepers, so maybe that's the reason. Even the Walmart sells the local honey.

There are a few honey syrups I see that are fake corn syrup crap.
 
I dont find this to be true here. I have never opened a container of honey and gotten anything other than pure honey. Most of the brands here in south lousiana are from local beekeepers, so maybe that's the reason. Even the Walmart sells the local honey.

There are a few honey syrups I see that are fake corn syrup crap.

You'd never know it. To properly test, they have to examine the honey under magnification to identify the pollen.
 
here is one more study on fake honey:
https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2011/11/tests-show-most-store-honey-isnt-honey/

Excerpt:
•76 percent of samples bought at groceries had all the pollen removed, These were stores like TOP Food, Safeway, Giant Eagle, QFC, Kroger, Metro Market, Harris Teeter, A&P, Stop & Shop and King Soopers.
•100 percent of the honey sampled from drugstores like Walgreens, Rite-Aid and CVS Pharmacy had no pollen.
•77 percent of the honey sampled from big box stores like Costco, Sam’s Club, Walmart, Target and H-E-B had the pollen filtered out.
•100 percent of the honey packaged in the small individual service portions from Smucker, McDonald’s and KFC had the pollen removed.


It's from 2011, but things haven't gotten any better.
 
I researched this and though the study you posted is correct it does not state all the facts. My assumption was correct. Most all the fake honey stated in the report comes from honey, even raw honey that's produced outside the U.S. as well as pasteurized honey from within the US. The reason they sell pasteurized honey is to hide its source, which usually is China. Chinese honey is the worst and always has fillers and traces of antibiotics and others chemicals.

Almost 100% of labelled raw unfiltered non pasteurized honey sourced from within the U.S is real 100% honey loaded with pollen.

U.S. raw unfiltered honey is good to buy, locally sourced would be best for you.
 
Last week I paid $2.40 for a gallon of gas. My monthly food bill came to less that $300 for the two of us. I can't tell you what brewed coffee costs as I don't buy any. Last months my utility bill was less than $75. But I do have to pay for my own medical insurance and I do have co-pays, if I visit the doctor. I think I would still keep my economy vs. yours GP.
 
Last week I paid $2.40 for a gallon of gas. My monthly food bill came to less that $300 for the two of us. I can't tell you what brewed coffee costs as I don't buy any. Last months my utility bill was less than $75. But I do have to pay for my own medical insurance and I do have co-pays, if I visit the doctor. I think I would still keep my economy vs. yours GP.

We pay about that for a Liter of petrol
 
I would still keep my economy vs. yours GP.
Good idea, that is also why I wish to retire to Hungary. My house is fully paid, I have my own water, garden and my utilities and house insurance costs me less than $30 a month compared to over $ 900 a month in Germany for rent and utilities.
 

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