bigpaul
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I lost any faith in humans a long time ago.
recent events over here have shown just how stupid most people are.
The Fall of Hospitals
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recent events over here have shown just how stupid most people are.
Kevin L
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I am very, very sorry.
Sorry to hear that DrJenner.
Helen Back
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Condolences for your friend.
I have a neighbor that is a long time nurse, at a large hospital system, who just quit. She said there are about 20% like her, just in their system. I just read this local news saying 20% of the nurses in Oregon are unvaccinated and do not want to be. I would guess that 20% of nurses for the entire state is in the thousands; probably over ten. Then there are specialists..
Legacy Health workers refusing COVID-19 vaccine prepare to be fired
Legacy Health workers refusing COVID-19 vaccine prepare to be fired (msn.com)
Espino is one of the employees whose religious exemption was rejected. She’s been a registered nurse for decades and is now facing a possible firing.
Coleman Nagy’s religious exemption was also denied. He works as a respiratory therapist at Legacy Emanuel. He’s worked in health care for decades.
The Oregon Nurses Association (ONA) is also calling out Legacy Health, saying the “blanket rejections” are “bad policy” that further impact that staffing shortages at hospitals and will “ultimately impact quality of patient care.”
"Across the state, Oregon’s registered nurses have a high rate of vaccination (over 80%)."
83,000 hospital workers is a huge number. Even if NONE of them were doctors or nurses, how will the hospitals run without support staff? The doctors and nurses going to make appointments, clean the halls, bathrooms, and ER? They going to run the supply rooms and restock the place? Keep the power going, do regular maintenance? Security? I think it is kind of closed minded to discount a hospital worker's "status". Snooty too.
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jontte
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sry to hear that DrJenner,
sometimes I feel that we in healthcare take death with a shrug, it happens, but we do have feelings too, we just bury them slightly deeper, this is an issue I can talk in the real world with my my love only, same ward as me, not with my brother or any one else, seen so many dead or dying at work..
sometimes I feel that we in healthcare take death with a shrug, it happens, but we do have feelings too, we just bury them slightly deeper, this is an issue I can talk in the real world with my my love only, same ward as me, not with my brother or any one else, seen so many dead or dying at work..
I haven’t put a lot of stock in using available beds as a metric for COVID hospitalization urgencies. My wife had to wait all day for a bed in 2019 for pancreatitis...long before COVID. Hospitals make money off people with insurance by keeping the beds full.
People dont realize that PTSD is as bad with emergency responders as it is with the military!!!!
Dr.,
You have a good support system here to vent to if need be. I am sorry for your loss. PLEASE take some time for yourself to honor your friend...
With respect,
Erqueen75
Kevin L
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Sometimes worse, as people don't equate PTSD with nursing and EMS in the way that they do with the military.
DONT forget police and fire, After being with fire, police and rescue services for 42 years i see and lot of eyes in the night to wake up too.
backandbeyond
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Yes well that's just Adam Smith's Invisible hand of capitalism at work through the rational profit maximizer, where the highest marginal utility of an economic system (Hospital in this case) is the logical end result of fu*king over the largest volume of consumers (patients) for the longest possible period of time.
It's all explained here Profit maximization - Wikipedia
That's odd because everything Ive read lately says that countries with the highest vaccination rates, have the highest covid numbers..
In other words, I don't believe you.. Or wont I trust, believe or respect ANY doctor who blindly obeys the CDC including my last one.
Latter hospitals and doctors.. Much!
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Thank you so much. I appreciate your kind wordsDr.,
You have a good support system here to vent to if need be. I am sorry for your loss. PLEASE take some time for yourself to honor your friend...
With respect,
Erqueen75
You’re right. It’s like that all the time.
But have hospitals put off profitable surgeries before, as they lack beds and people?
The reason Dr. Jenner is likely telling the truth is because she is not the one who determines her patients vaccination status. That's determined inaccurately prior to them reaching the ICU, by following the CDC guidelines of not counting those who got the vaccine uuntil, weeks after getting jabbed. Wait there's more, once the patient is due for a second jab or now a booster, from that time forward and until 2 weeks after there second jab or booster, they are considered unvaccinated.
Vaccinated deaths have now surpassed the non vaccinated deaths and will continue to excellerate at an expadential rate..
That's a good point Proud Prepper, but jenner blindly obeys the CDC and then tries to spread the disinformation here. Considering the FDA hasnt approved the booster for people under 65, isn't everyone under 65 considered un-vaccinated even if they had both shots? Their twisting the truth!
This isn't some woke-liberal forum jenner, and makes me wonder if you realizes who your trying to fool.. Now I don't believe a word you say, including the BS story about your friend dyeing from covid. Your blindly believing the results of the misused PCR test which has >90% false positive rate and is meaningless as a diagnostic tool to determine an alleged infection.
People die all the time jenner, but it's rarely because of covid unless they were hospitalized. Here's a capture from the FDA's virtual meeting which swayed the vote 16-2 against the booster. Maybe you should watch it or find sheeple on some woke forum to fool.
