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But yes, there's this flawed perspective that if you're not for A you must be for B. If you're not red you must be blue, but like so many others on this forum who make the claim, I really do think for myself
I do recall the heavy discussions with the demonstrators in Germany against the Pershing nuclear rocket systems back in the late 80's and early 90's...We made the point of the "green" party they proclaimed to be supporting...others made their support for the "red" party...
(green=clean air and simple life)
(red= socialist and controlled life)
SOOOO...we made a joke of how apples are "green" while they are growing and then, when ripe, suddenly turned---red----!!
I will take my experiences with these and many other people with which I have had to deal with in my civil and war time experiences...some still alive and some now not...and make a personal opinion to an unknown person here, who proclaims to be "middle of the road"...
1. you cannot be "middle" of anything, (for abortion but against capital punishment...) killing is killing...
2. you cannot be "middle" of politics and have any hope for success. (gray man= unknown= no votes)
3. you cannot be "middle" of life and hope to be accepted by ANYBODY...
4. IF YOU ARE NOT BLUE OR RED:::THEN YOU ARE BOTH BY DEFAULT, but not ready to defend either...making you a parasite and a leach from which SUCKS energy from the system and demands freedom,,,,,but will NOT choose a side from which he will fight for/ or against...
5. BTW, remember what happens when you mix blue with red paint??? IT TURNS BROWN; like the brown shirts from Hitler and Mussolini. (or the color of the feces from most healthy and grown up homo-sapiens...don't know if I would like to be the middle of "red" and "blue" if it just means being brown....Live free, or die fighting for the freedom you call "yours"...Gary (my real name...)
 
I served 16 years in the military. Active Army, National Guard and Active Duty National Guard. I left the service as a Staff Sergeant. 2017/2018 I was briefly in another militia group but left because they were ate up. October 2019 I started a militia group because if I was going to be in a militia I wanted to do it right. My vision for the unit is to train my limited members to be trainers and leaders that way if shit hits the fan I have a cadre ready to train a fighting force to Army standards and have ready leaders to lead them.

As far as the article saying the militia are the best trained in history I disagree. From my observations and from what I have heard about other units, the militia(some) are ate the 性交 up. A lot of the units have limited training and crappy leadership. They train once a month on a Saturday for a couple of hours and call it good. The training is most likely hip pocket and there just winging it.

In my unit the trainer will have reference material on hand so that everything can be backed up by most likely an Army manual or two. I do not allow winging it. We start our training on Friday evening and ENDEX Sunday by noon. Usually Friday is ADMIN day to set up. We train all day and some times into the night Saturday and Sunday we clean up and go home.

Most of our training subjects are Army in nature but we also train in guerrilla warfare and we do this in cities and villages.
 
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As much as I think Antifa and BLM need to be dealt with, I will wait until they come to my neighborhood. Much easier to S.S.S., not as far to drag nasty critters.

Over here in Texas, we used to hunt the coyotes who preyed on our livestock. We would hang the carcass on the barbed wire fence. The warning took and they would avoid the area. You can just drag the corpse out to the road and leave in the ditch... the message will take
 
To correct your flawed paradigm, which I'm sure will fall on blind eyes, yes, you can be middle of the road, and on the fence. You're own experiences are from a certain, broken perspective that fails to be opened minded from other peoples' experiences and life choices. This is, inherently wrong and evil in it's very blindness. It fails from the "walk a mile in one's shoes" perspective and incites ignorance and intolerance, which then lead to war and violence. You, and people like you, accuse others of the very moral short comings you, yourself, are guilty of. Taking a more middle ground to view both perspectives and draw conclusions is a sign of superior intelligence and compassion as well as heightened perspective. As I like to say, when you sit on the fence, you can see the dog shit in both yards on either side of you.

As far as your points;

1. I absolutely can be in the middle of something such as abortion. I choose not to way in against or for abortion as I'm a white male and abortion does not affect me. I'm sure you're scoffing at that, but it's because you've already made up your mind, one way or the other, and have no capability of viewing things otherwise. It's the same as a dog pondering why a puddle is wet when they were sure it was dry. The dog is vexed and confused, but the water is still wet.
2. I can be middle of politics by being bi-partisan, or simply not choosing to vote straight ticket and instead weigh each topic and issue from my own moral and intellectual level.....not based on what my 'party' tells me to choose.
3. I am in the middle of life...and have many friends and allies based on acceptance of both sides, and others. I have very close friends on the right, and I have close friends on the left, and I have close friends who are libertarian, and I have close friends who are liberal and close friends who are very conservative. I have these friends because I am middle and I do not accept them based on politics or unfounded, flawed religious standpoints, but, instead, based on what brings us together on common ground. I am very much not alone.
4. I'm not blue, nor red, nor 'brown'. I am white, neutral, and, like the statue of Justice, blind as I weigh facts and reality. I weigh issues impartially, as I stated above. I do not have to choose a 'side' to make a decision, as infuriating as that makes someone like you and what you're missing is the difference between a side and a decision. Being that I'm not on a 'red or blue' side, I can fight against the opposing side I find to be flawed, treasonous, and unconstitutional, and I can judge that position free of dogmatic view points from one side or the other. That provides me far more freedom than your indoctorinated methodologies.
5. I think I've made myself clear regarding colors, Gary, and my freedoms are my own, without fear or guided misperceptions, or blind faith to an unjust cause.

I am middle, and balanced...it's the superior stance to take in this political environment, but since this stance isn't 'your' stance, you'll outright reject it and view it as 'evil' or me as 'enemy'. That's fine, I'm here to provide balance against the likes of you, and others ignorant enough to believe this is a war against sides.

-Lee (My real name).

I do recall the heavy discussions with the demonstrators in Germany against the Pershing nuclear rocket systems back in the late 80's and early 90's...We made the point of the "green" party they proclaimed to be supporting...others made their support for the "red" party...
(green=clean air and simple life)
(red= socialist and controlled life)
SOOOO...we made a joke of how apples are "green" while they are growing and then, when ripe, suddenly turned---red----!!
I will take my experiences with these and many other people with which I have had to deal with in my civil and war time experiences...some still alive and some now not...and make a personal opinion to an unknown person here, who proclaims to be "middle of the road"...
1. you cannot be "middle" of anything, (for abortion but against capital punishment...) killing is killing...
2. you cannot be "middle" of politics and have any hope for success. (gray man= unknown= no votes)
3. you cannot be "middle" of life and hope to be accepted by ANYBODY...
4. IF YOU ARE NOT BLUE OR RED:::THEN YOU ARE BOTH BY DEFAULT, but not ready to defend either...making you a parasite and a leach from which SUCKS energy from the system and demands freedom,,,,,but will NOT choose a side from which he will fight for/ or against...
5. BTW, remember what happens when you mix blue with red paint??? IT TURNS BROWN; like the brown shirts from Hitler and Mussolini. (or the color of the feces from most healthy and grown up homo-sapiens...don't know if I would like to be the middle of "red" and "blue" if it just means being brown....Live free, or die fighting for the freedom you call "yours"...Gary (my real name...)
 
Mr. Parahunter...Your self-righteousness stinks a bit to the "I am sooooo perfect" side of life. I will accept your definition of yourself quite gladly and am also willing to accept your IDEA of who and what I am since you only have read a single para-graph of my writings and you already have decided everything about me in an instant, after all I only took what you wrote and translated it into my definition according to my experiences. You, on the other hand, having soooo many friends (left, right, middle, lib....) to talk to and all of them put up with your side of "middle"??? Kinda reminds me of something my Granddad use to say: diplomacy and conceding in an argument, is the first step to doubting your own standpoint!
Some day you will have to choose; BECAUSE THE "OTHERS" WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO BE IN THE MIDDLE...Good luck. GP
 
Let’s face it most politicians left and right are power hungry. A lot of them are corrupt and a very small amount actually want to enact positive change or preserve what’s already working. I have lost faith in politics so will generally vote on the lesser of 2 evils, however I will always vote or I have no right to complain. In my opinion politics should have nothing to do with how much money a candidate has and they should be held accountable at the end of their term. If they have not delivered (very few do) on their promises perhaps send them to the Antarctic for 10 years to study algae. That might put a rocket up their backsides to do what they have promised 😉
 
To correct your flawed paradigm, which I'm sure will fall on blind eyes, yes, you can be middle of the road, and on the fence. You're own experiences are from a certain, broken perspective that fails to be opened minded from other peoples' experiences and life choices. This is, inherently wrong and evil in it's very blindness. It fails from the "walk a mile in one's shoes" perspective and incites ignorance and intolerance, which then lead to war and violence. You, and people like you, accuse others of the very moral short comings you, yourself, are guilty of. Taking a more middle ground to view both perspectives and draw conclusions is a sign of superior intelligence and compassion as well as heightened perspective. As I like to say, when you sit on the fence, you can see the dog shit in both yards on either side of you.

As far as your points;

1. I absolutely can be in the middle of something such as abortion. I choose not to way in against or for abortion as I'm a white male and abortion does not affect me. I'm sure you're scoffing at that, but it's because you've already made up your mind, one way or the other, and have no capability of viewing things otherwise. It's the same as a dog pondering why a puddle is wet when they were sure it was dry. The dog is vexed and confused, but the water is still wet.
2. I can be middle of politics by being bi-partisan, or simply not choosing to vote straight ticket and instead weigh each topic and issue from my own moral and intellectual level.....not based on what my 'party' tells me to choose.
3. I am in the middle of life...and have many friends and allies based on acceptance of both sides, and others. I have very close friends on the right, and I have close friends on the left, and I have close friends who are libertarian, and I have close friends who are liberal and close friends who are very conservative. I have these friends because I am middle and I do not accept them based on politics or unfounded, flawed religious standpoints, but, instead, based on what brings us together on common ground. I am very much not alone.
4. I'm not blue, nor red, nor 'brown'. I am white, neutral, and, like the statue of Justice, blind as I weigh facts and reality. I weigh issues impartially, as I stated above. I do not have to choose a 'side' to make a decision, as infuriating as that makes someone like you and what you're missing is the difference between a side and a decision. Being that I'm not on a 'red or blue' side, I can fight against the opposing side I find to be flawed, treasonous, and unconstitutional, and I can judge that position free of dogmatic view points from one side or the other. That provides me far more freedom than your indoctorinated methodologies.
5. I think I've made myself clear regarding colors, Gary, and my freedoms are my own, without fear or guided misperceptions, or blind faith to an unjust cause.

I am middle, and balanced...it's the superior stance to take in this political environment, but since this stance isn't 'your' stance, you'll outright reject it and view it as 'evil' or me as 'enemy'. That's fine, I'm here to provide balance against the likes of you, and others ignorant enough to believe this is a war against sides.

-Lee (My real name).
MIDDLE OF THE ROAD,,,,,,it sounds good when you say it but there comes a point when you have to choose,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and there are sides to everything other wise there would be no conflict we would all think the same
 
I see no one calling for violence, only preparedness against those that might come to their homes. This group of Americans are not those who go start conflict. Peace and Freedom is all that is wanted.
a civil war is not fought with words,,,,,,,,,or is everyone just venting their anger over a lost election
 
a civil war is not fought with words,,,,,,,,,or is everyone just venting their anger over a lost election

None of us were advocating for a civil war. The article I posted was not either...it was saying IF one started they are getting ready for it. The article was also warning those who have shown PLANS on Attacking innocent folks, that they will not allow it to continue!

I can only speak for myself on the election. Hell yes I’m angry. If this was an HONEST and FAIR election I would be sad, but accepting. Deny the mathematical evidence, the hundreds of video evidence, the mounting number of signed Affidavits if you like. I WILL NOT hide in a corner while they totally STEAL the American People’s VOTES!!!
 
I'm a quiet background kind of guy, I watch and listen and act if needed. I seldom post comments.
As I read this thread I feel I must post a word of caution! I pray we avoid war or even more civil unrest so don't get me wrong.
For those of us who would, if we needed to, go to war to, even civil war, to protect what we cherish. Remember the enemies of freedom, left wingers, radicals, whoever, have lots of backers in the shadows. "They" would arm and train and even provide manpower. We would be fighting more than just thugs. Many nations and groups would love to come into the country and "help" the US. Then they would stay.
I say we keep preparing, and keep our eyes, minds, and hearts wide open to what is really happening. Then act as needed, peacefully if possible but, as needed.
 
I'm a quiet background kind of guy, I watch and listen and act if needed. I seldom post comments.
As I read this thread I feel I must post a word of caution! I pray we avoid war or even more civil unrest so don't get me wrong.
For those of us who would, if we needed to, go to war to, even civil war, to protect what we cherish. Remember the enemies of freedom, left wingers, radicals, whoever, have lots of backers in the shadows. "They" would arm and train and even provide manpower. We would be fighting more than just thugs. Many nations and groups would love to come into the country and "help" the US. Then they would stay.
I say we keep preparing, and keep our eyes, minds, and hearts wide open to what is really happening. Then act as needed, peacefully if possible but, as needed.

Nice to hear from you Mechanic. You are a quiet one. Glad you decided to comment. For the future of our children and grandchildren we must all prepare, gather trusted and like minded around us, and stay very alert to what is happening in the shadows.
 

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