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I have what some may consider a ghoulish habit of scouring personal news reports from natural disasters across the world to see if there are any lessons to be learned and occasionally different disasters in different places end up reaching the same conclusion.

I wish to share three with you today with the same net end result.


1 Northern Australia prone to horrendous flooding called THE WET.

In this scenario many residents of this region keep a vehicle ready during the monsoon season in which they can flee from rising flood water and still support themselves.


Many EXPERIENCED residents of this area as soon as the bad weather is forecast move their vehicles / trailers / caravans to an assembly point outside the town limits on the far side of the local river that often rises and floods before the town does, the flooded river is the only way out and if the river rises fast even their ready to go vehicles are stuck.


Other new settlers in the article learned the hard way after ignoring local advice and keeping their vehicles at home.

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2 South Eastern Australia


Fire is the problem here the very dense growing Eucalypts that make up the forests are EXPLOSIVELY combustible as they are absolutely full of aromatic oils, forest fires here even on level ground can spread faster than many people can run.


Many folks in this region also keep ready to go vehicles to sustain them if (often WHEN) a fire breaks out, many of these Aussies use towed trailers with built in tent / cooker, fuel/ water etc


And as well example 1 many of these people store equipment AWAY from home, in this case they keep their cars and Utes ( SUVs) at home to flee encroaching fires but they keep their trailers OUTSIDE the fire risk area so as to be able to support themselves after a disaster.

3 New Orleans USA

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I recently reported on how many well prepared Floridian and Georgian, Louisianans have been caught out by events during Katrina and Andrew type storms with failed dykes / levis / flood water/ cops or simply sheer volumes of traffic stopping them from getting out in time WITH their fully loaded vehicle meant to sustain them.

When you now read articles and comments from many preppers living in these areas its now reasonably common to here that some of them have now started keeping camping trailers, box trailer, U Haul trailers or even rent space at U Store facilties well inland from the danger areas in order to keep supplies and kit safe for future use.

I know personally of URBAN preppers in built up areas in the UK and other countries who understand just how very difficult it will be trying to escape grossly over crowded densely populated and bloody dangerous cities with family AND Supplies in tow. More than a few now take sensible precautions to cache not only supplies / fuel/ food etc but a few now appear to keep camping trailers / caravans even camper vans in secure storage yards OUTSIDE city limits.

It has to be worth serious consideration for many preppers to consider that bugging out LIGHT ( Lite in Americanese) often gives you the edge to see you get to safe ground before the masses or before the flood, fire, storm overwhelms you. Escape with your families then pick up your pre-located supplies / trailer/ caravan/ camper OUTSIDE the immediate high risk area.

Just food for thought.

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Neat trailers VERY popular in Oz an d SA where its warmer that here, up here caravans, trailer tents, pop up caravans and micro caravans are very popular with glass fibre, aluminium, steel etc because they are warmer. Indeed in parts of Europe you can get heavily insulated caravans that are used in Scandinavia.

But even a simple metal single axle trailer with lockable metal top full of essential supplies stored out of town some place secure and safe offers many people a good level of support compared to what they could carry on their backs.
 

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good points there raider.that's why i want to get a pick-up and a utility trailer,or camper trailer..and have all my bug out items in the trailer.including my camping stuff.i live in the country.and that means i can keep the trailer on the property,and on hand..
 

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I would like to own one of these. Sprayed in a bit different colour, but i think you could go places with this.
 

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Prefer Pingaurs and Bremachs myself but would settle for an Iveco :) You should see our resident Ausssie Gray Nomads wheels he is the owner of the famous wothehellizzat

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I have what some may consider a ghoulish habit of scouring personal news reports from natural disasters across the world to see if there are any lessons to be learned and occasionally different disasters in different places end up reaching the same conclusion.

I wish to share three with you today with the same net end result.


1 Northern Australia prone to horrendous flooding called THE WET.

In this scenario many residents of this region keep a vehicle ready during the monsoon season in which they can flee from rising flood water and still support themselves.


Many EXPERIENCED residents of this area as soon as the bad weather is forecast move their vehicles / trailers / caravans to an assembly point outside the town limits on the far side of the local river that often rises and floods before the town does, the flooded river is the only way out and if the river rises fast even their ready to go vehicles are stuck.


Other new settlers in the article learned the hard way after ignoring local advice and keeping their vehicles at home.

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2 South Eastern Australia


Fire is the problem here the very dense growing Eucalypts that make up the forests are EXPLOSIVELY combustible as they are absolutely full of aromatic oils, forest fires here even on level ground can spread faster than many people can run.


Many folks in this region also keep ready to go vehicles to sustain them if (often WHEN) a fire breaks out, many of these Aussies use towed trailers with built in tent / cooker, fuel/ water etc


And as well example 1 many of these people store equipment AWAY from home, in this case they keep their cars and Utes ( SUVs) at home to flee encroaching fires but they keep their trailers OUTSIDE the fire risk area so as to be able to support themselves after a disaster.

3 New Orleans USA

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I recently reported on how many well prepared Floridian and Georgian, Louisianans have been caught out by events during Katrina and Andrew type storms with failed dykes / levis / flood water/ cops or simply sheer volumes of traffic stopping them from getting out in time WITH their fully loaded vehicle meant to sustain them.

When you now read articles and comments from many preppers living in these areas its now reasonably common to here that some of them have now started keeping camping trailers, box trailer, U Haul trailers or even rent space at U Store facilties well inland from the danger areas in order to keep supplies and kit safe for future use.

I know personally of URBAN preppers in built up areas in the UK and other countries who understand just how very difficult it will be trying to escape grossly over crowded densely populated and bloody dangerous cities with family AND Supplies in tow. More than a few now take sensible precautions to cache not only supplies / fuel/ food etc but a few now appear to keep camping trailers / caravans even camper vans in secure storage yards OUTSIDE city limits.

It has to be worth serious consideration for many preppers to consider that bugging out LIGHT ( Lite in Americanese) often gives you the edge to see you get to safe ground before the masses or before the flood, fire, storm overwhelms you. Escape with your families then pick up your pre-located supplies / trailer/ caravan/ camper OUTSIDE the immediate high risk area.

Just food for thought.

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Your first image of the camper trailer is awesome! That is the coolest/toughest camper I've ever seen. I want one! :)
I agree that it's a good idea to have supplies in more than one location, it's just one of the tenants of prepping, backups for your backup.
 

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Many people make their own I read of a guy in the Ozarks who made himself a beut out of a second hand standard NATO single axle trailer.


Your first image of the camper trailer is awesome! That is the coolest/toughest camper I've ever seen. I want one! :)
I agree that it's a good idea to have supplies in more than one location, it's just one of the tenants of prepping, backups for your backup.
 

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like I said before its easier and cheaper to make one yourself and it can be done for less than $2000, Ex mil 1.5 ton trailer, some metal framing, a Roof tent and a few bits of carpentry. The best exped trailers I have seen are Australian and they are all home made DIY jobs.

holy shxt, $50,000 ...ok, my wife would cut my throat :(

ok, thats Australian dollars almost 35,000USD OUCH :(
 

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like I said before its easier and cheaper to make one yourself and it can be done for less than $2000, Ex mil 1.5 ton trailer, some metal framing, a Roof tent and a few bits of carpentry. The best exped trailers I have seen are Australian and they are all home made DIY jobs.
I spent most of yesterday welding and working on a trailer here ironically. I had a tandem axel 20' trailer I used to haul logs with, but don't have a good truck to haul it with anymore. So I cut it in half and made two trailers with it, that my little SUV can handle. One is just a 10' flatbed, but the other is getting a ladder rack on it, and will probably get tool boxes as well. I would love to go ahead and make a camper with one, but allready had uses for these. My son and I are starting a contracting company together, so this is slated to be a work trailer. We will start welding a good ladder rack for him as soon as the trailers are done. I looked at buying a pre made ladder rack, but all I saw are light weight crap. I'm using 3/4" galvanized pipe, which is a little heavy, but can handle a lot more weight. Believe me, as I was cutting and welding, building something out of mad max came to mind, but a work trailer is just a lot more practical right now.
One cool thing, the generator I switched over to propane, which is my miller welder, ran great on the propane. So far all I had done was start it occasionally to keep the battery charged, and it did fine. Welding put some load on it, and I wasn't sure how it would perform, but I couldn't tell any difference at all. Yeah!
The mad max thing is just going to have to wait a while :).
 

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I still want need a decent genny but I want a diesel one.


THE CASE FOR DIESEL


Yes I know there are far more people driving Cars, Vans, SUVs’s , Pickups, 4X4’s etc with petrol (gasoline) powered engines than there are driving similar vehicles running Diesel engines, But hang on a moment is that a good thing for us claiming to be switched on survivalists?


Some points I think need chewing over by the preparedness communities especially those with retreats, homesteads, secure homes and bug out plans.


If (or more likely when) TSHTF and fuel availability & storage becomes a major issue what will society in general start doing?


Let’s accept that most of us already keep our vehicles topped off most of the time and also keep a few gallons of fuel stored for “The Day” but nearly all of us must admit that overall we have not got enough fuel cached to get by with.


Question? What is the general public going to do as soon as finding fuel supplies become difficult?


Answer, yes they are going to form huge queues at almost every petrol (gas) station they can, the rest of this tale you already know, huge queues, long waits, rationing, violence, riots, people getting killed for a gallon of fuel. The public will go berserk in next to no time at all.

(This scenario came 100% spot on accurate during the 2005 hurricane season in the US)


So what are the big boys and the prepared people doing?


What do the Railways (Railroads), Truckers, Maritime trade, leisure boats use as fuel? What do farmers choose as fuel for their tractors, ploughs, etc? What do the military choose to power their vehicles?


Diesel, Yes Diesel, This fuel is found almost everywhere a survivalist would choose to look. It’s safer to handle and store than petrol, it’s got a better shelf life untreated than petrol and it’s used to power most of our commerce.


Next time you are out and about take a look around and try to identify places you could ‘Source’ petrol (gas) and diesel. Petrol in general is only available at fuel stations and in other petrol powered vehicles (cars, lawn mowers and jet skis?).It’s only found in fairly small quantities as well. If you are lucky you will be able to fill your vehicle and a few jerry cans from a retail source before government restrictions or shortages become an issue.



But look at places you can find diesel in an emergency and in what quantities? Trucks alone have tanks that carry many hundreds of gallons of diesel, truck stops hold huge amounts in comparison to petrol stations. Look at your local railroad locomotive, even the smallest carry 1500 gallons of diesel whilst the mainline locos can carry as much as 6000 gallons.


Also in recent years modern diesel engines have advanced technologically, to a point that the power issues that traditionally separated diesel vehicles from petrol (gas) powered vehicles has been eroded. So that unless you are into sports cars a turbo diesel can and will match your gasoline powered car in everything except the 0-60 MPH stakes, plus modern diesels are still more economical than petrol engines.


Then of course when it comes to the reliability and vulnerability aspects of comparing the two types of engine diesel wins hands down.


I am also advised that certain types of heating oil can be used to run a diesel engine. Certainly after the lessons learned from Hurricane Katrina you need to carry enough fuel to travel 3x the distance to your retreat, this allows for diversions and long periods of very slow driving in heavy traffic.


So in closing if you have a rural retreat or bug out plans and you believe that sourcing fuel is going to be a major issue common sense directs you to choose the good old compression ignition engine.
 

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I still want need a decent genny but I want a diesel one.


THE CASE FOR DIESEL


Yes I know there are far more people driving Cars, Vans, SUVs’s , Pickups, 4X4’s etc with petrol (gasoline) powered engines than there are driving similar vehicles running Diesel engines, But hang on a moment is that a good thing for us claiming to be switched on survivalists?


Some points I think need chewing over by the preparedness communities especially those with retreats, homesteads, secure homes and bug out plans.


If (or more likely when) TSHTF and fuel availability & storage becomes a major issue what will society in general start doing?


Let’s accept that most of us already keep our vehicles topped off most of the time and also keep a few gallons of fuel stored for “The Day” but nearly all of us must admit that overall we have not got enough fuel cached to get by with.


Question? What is the general public going to do as soon as finding fuel supplies become difficult?


Answer, yes they are going to form huge queues at almost every petrol (gas) station they can, the rest of this tale you already know, huge queues, long waits, rationing, violence, riots, people getting killed for a gallon of fuel. The public will go berserk in next to no time at all.

(This scenario came 100% spot on accurate during the 2005 hurricane season in the US)


So what are the big boys and the prepared people doing?


What do the Railways (Railroads), Truckers, Maritime trade, leisure boats use as fuel? What do farmers choose as fuel for their tractors, ploughs, etc? What do the military choose to power their vehicles?


Diesel, Yes Diesel, This fuel is found almost everywhere a survivalist would choose to look. It’s safer to handle and store than petrol, it’s got a better shelf life untreated than petrol and it’s used to power most of our commerce.


Next time you are out and about take a look around and try to identify places you could ‘Source’ petrol (gas) and diesel. Petrol in general is only available at fuel stations and in other petrol powered vehicles (cars, lawn mowers and jet skis?).It’s only found in fairly small quantities as well. If you are lucky you will be able to fill your vehicle and a few jerry cans from a retail source before government restrictions or shortages become an issue.



But look at places you can find diesel in an emergency and in what quantities? Trucks alone have tanks that carry many hundreds of gallons of diesel, truck stops hold huge amounts in comparison to petrol stations. Look at your local railroad locomotive, even the smallest carry 1500 gallons of diesel whilst the mainline locos can carry as much as 6000 gallons.


Also in recent years modern diesel engines have advanced technologically, to a point that the power issues that traditionally separated diesel vehicles from petrol (gas) powered vehicles has been eroded. So that unless you are into sports cars a turbo diesel can and will match your gasoline powered car in everything except the 0-60 MPH stakes, plus modern diesels are still more economical than petrol engines.


Then of course when it comes to the reliability and vulnerability aspects of comparing the two types of engine diesel wins hands down.


I am also advised that certain types of heating oil can be used to run a diesel engine. Certainly after the lessons learned from Hurricane Katrina you need to carry enough fuel to travel 3x the distance to your retreat, this allows for diversions and long periods of very slow driving in heavy traffic.


So in closing if you have a rural retreat or bug out plans and you believe that sourcing fuel is going to be a major issue common sense directs you to choose the good old compression ignition engine.
I agree that the diesel is a better option in most scenarios. The only thing that I would add would be to get a diesel engine that was made pre-ULSD. A diesel will (generally) last longer than a petrol engine, but repair parts costs are higher per repair and preventive maintenance costs are double that of a gas engine. Still over the long term diesel is a better choice.
 

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i've often thought about the train concept.it'd be the engine,one car for the family room,another for dining room and kitchen.and one for bedroom.the family room car and bedroom car,would have bathrooms..
 

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