Helpful Info. Russia / EU gas pipeline blown up

[Silent Earth]

RT on Sky is just reporting a terrorist attack has blown up one of the main gas pipelines to the EU /UK

If they attack the others which are vulnerable there will be chaos.



http://rt.com/news/166532-gas-pipeline-blast-ukraine/

 

[DrHenley]

Here is a Reuters article. Ukraine thinks the Russians did it to "discredit Ukraine as a reliable supplier."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/17/us-ukraine-crisis-blast-idUSKBN0ES2DY20140617

 

[George Martin]

Russia are looking for an excuse to go into Ukraine I don't think it will be long

 

[George Martin]

Russia are looking for an excuse to go into Ukraine I don't think it will be long

 

[Silent Earth]

So now that is the first of the NORTHERN pipeslines out of action the southern ones run through places like Kurdistan and Turkey and Iraq which the ISIS crowd are trying to take control of, I reckon oil prices will soon go through the roof.

 

[jontte]

well,guys and gals,that shit-head putin already put his troops on high-alert,so now he has over 65000 battleready russkies ready to invade,it really doesn't look very promising and I don't recall how many soldiers there's in kaliningrad...my grandpa tought my father and he tought me a saying that a russkie is a russkie even if you fry him in butter,meaning you can't trust them whatever they promise or say

 

[bigpaul]

this whole Ukraine thing started because the EU wanted to expand its influence into Ukraine, I imagine Putin wasn't very happy about that! as our(UK) Nigel Farage said "the EU has blood on its hands"!!

 

[Silent Earth]

Exactly right on that Paul, Its the bastard eurofederalists to started this whole thing off, and its federalists who screw up most things today. Federalists and Socialists are both bad for us.

 

[jontte]

so leave ukraine to putin??? what's next?? part of poland and baltic countries?

 

[bigpaul]

I don't think Putin wants a war with the US and all its allies, we are NOT about to see the start of WW3....lets everybody calm down shall we?

 

[jontte]

yup,calm down,easy to say with that distance between you and russkies,but yup,lets try

 

[bigpaul]

we in the UK aren't panicking, I'm more concerned about the British Jihadists when they come back from Iraq and Syria than I am about what Putin is up to, Putin is up to what he is always up to...its called "one up man ship" and its mostly for home consumption.

 

[jontte]

and when that show isn't enough for home,then it turnes ugly,very quickly,very ugly,those jihadists are a problem here too,one more reason I want to put some distance between me and this town asap

 

[bigpaul]

yep, I used to live in a city but I got out 15 years ago, went back 5 years ago for a visit and couldn't get out fast enough!! our major (UK) cities have home grown jihadists in them so its not like they've got to get past customs or anything.

 

[jontte]

this internet is quite nice,but it's so frikking easy to spread shit with it and to build up a jihadist cell using it aswell, they can recruite people so easily, I'm just waiting for something to happen here when people get back from syria and iraq and I know it's going to be a big surprize to our gov and police aswell...and yet one of my bosses tells us that you have to trust people,we don't have any bad guys here

 

[bigpaul]

there is an old prepper saying: "if you don't know them, haven't worked or spent time with them, then DONT trust them"....I LIVE by this motto every day!!

 

[jontte]

and it doesn't give higher stresslevels that I don't trust them

 

[bigpaul]

I've been on several British so called Prepper forums, "armchair" survivalists more like, most people just don't have a clue about what it will be like and how bad it will be POST shtf, and trust is one of the things that will have to be earned not freely given away.

 

[Silent Earth]

so leave ukraine to putin??? what's next?? part of poland and baltic countries?

Putins localised objectives are simply local geopolitics and NOTHING to do with us or the Americans. The people in the Crimea DEMOCRATICALLY elected to return to Russia after only 50 years as Ukrainian territory. If the eastern Ukrainians DEMOCRATICALLY choose to separate from western Ukraine then we must respect those wishes, just as we in the UK must respect the wishes of the Scots of they democratically choose to leave the UK in September.

If our cousins in the US actually understood true self determination they could have saved themselves from a terrible war 200 years ago when the southern states DEMOCRATICALLY chose to leave the Union.

As for the Judian / Islamic world well those ****wits have been at each others throats for a thousand years and if the jews and muslims and not killing each other then the Sunnis and Shiites continue to kill each other.
Let em kill each other.

 

[Silent Earth]

You can please some of the people some of the time, but you cannot please all of the people all the time, and meanwhile we survivalists and preppers will just please ourselves and ignore the rest.