Our biggest manmade disaster: welfare & blacks

[TexasFreedom]

Let me toss out an idea, and read through my whole point: blacks may have been better off under slavery than they are today under welfare with 'freedom'.

Bear with me. I'm not saying slavery was good by any means. But, 200 years ago, black slave men married black slave women and they had families and raised their kids well. Meanwhile, today, 60% of black babies are killed before they are born. And the majority of the remaining survivors grow up without a father, many not even knowing who is their father. Blacks are predominantly mired in poverty, drugs, and crime. They survive on welfare as a handout and vote like trained monkeys for the meager give-me's. There is no honor nor hope in this meaningless lifestyle.

So, compare the two. If I had the choice of being a black man in 1850 or in 2020, (well, ignoring air conditioning!) I'd choose 1850. I would rather live in slavery with a wife, a family, respectable work, honor, faith and meaning to my life. This idea that slaves were beat and in chains daily is a giant lie. Yes, it was a hard life. But I would have had twice the chance of surviving to birth. And even after all the diseases of those days and lack of medicine, I would still have a much greater chance of growing up. I would have purpose and honor rather than a drug/alcohol addiction. And rather than worshipping at the alter of democrats, I would have the basic understandings of Christian Faith.

So, blacks today are correct that they are far from "Free". They are slaves to welfare, to democrats, to drugs and to crime. What a sad life. I think the best things that could happen to the black community is for democrats to loose badly, for all forms of welfare to end, for an end to abortions/killing of the majority of black babies, and for an end to their addiction to gov't control which means they clean themselves up and get a job and get off drugs. Only then will today's blacks in the USA be better off than as slaves.

Your thoughts?

 

[tmttactical]

Back in 1967 I won a debate with a Black student (in Oakland Calif. school) using very much the same logic. Worked then, still applies today. Welfare is just slavery without the chains. Public schools are just re-education camps with a different name.

 

[jontte]

harsh,but basically true.
and I've always been wondering,if Africa is paradise on earth,why leave their own place and come to the west and bitch about all and everything?

 

[Petoski]

Back in 1967 I won a debate with a Black student (in Oakland Calif. school) using very much the same logic. Worked then, sit applies today. Welfare is just slavery without the chains. Public schools are just re-education camps with a different name.

And that is why universal basic income is a terrible idea too.

 

[Petoski]

Let me toss out an idea, and read through my whole point: blacks may have been better off under slavery than they are today under welfare with 'freedom'.

Bear with me. I'm not saying slavery was good by any means. But, 200 years ago, black slave men married black slave women and they had families and raised their kids well. Meanwhile, today, 60% of black babies are killed before they are born. And the majority of the remaining survivors grow up without a father, many not even knowing who is their father. Blacks are predominantly mired in poverty, drugs, and crime. They survive on welfare as a handout and vote like trained monkeys for the meager give-me's. There is no honor nor hope in this meaningless lifestyle.

So, compare the two. If I had the choice of being a black man in 1850 or in 2020, (well, ignoring air conditioning!) I'd choose 1850. I would rather live in slavery with a wife, a family, respectable work, honor, faith and meaning to my life. This idea that slaves were beat and in chains daily is a giant lie. Yes, it was a hard life. But I would have had twice the chance of surviving to birth. And even after all the diseases of those days and lack of medicine, I would still have a much greater chance of growing up. I would have purpose and honor rather than a drug/alcohol addiction. And rather than worshipping at the alter of democrats, I would have the basic understandings of Christian Faith.

So, blacks today are correct that they are far from "Free". They are slaves to welfare, to democrats, to drugs and to crime. What a sad life. I think the best things that could happen to the black community is for democrats to loose badly, for all forms of welfare to end, for an end to abortions/killing of the majority of black babies, and for an end to their addiction to gov't control which means they clean themselves up and get a job and get off drugs. Only then will today's blacks in the USA be better off than as slaves.

Your thoughts?

I don't know the data but I think there was still roughly the same number of absent fathers in 1850. Having lived and worked in West Africa and socialised with many of my African friends, I would say the vast majority of the men have multiple women on the go at the same time. It is cultural. It was also more common among the white population in the past.

Nearly all people are slaves today regardless of colour, if fact they are even worse off than slaves because they are puppets and they just don't know it.

 

[jontte]

but don't get me wrong, Africa has a lot of potential,it only needs alot of work,lots of it to make it but the potential is there..

 

[Joe SA]

but don't get me wrong, Africa has a lot of potential,it only needs alot of work,lots of it to make it but the potential is there..

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[rilldestiny]

Let me toss out an idea, and read through my whole point: blacks may have been better off under slavery than they are today under welfare with 'freedom'.

Bear with me. I'm not saying slavery was good by any means. But, 200 years ago, black slave men married black slave women and they had families and raised their kids well. Meanwhile, today, 60% of black babies are killed before they are born. And the majority of the remaining survivors grow up without a father, many not even knowing who is their father. Blacks are predominantly mired in poverty, drugs, and crime. They survive on welfare as a handout and vote like trained monkeys for the meager give-me's. There is no honor nor hope in this meaningless lifestyle.

So, compare the two. If I had the choice of being a black man in 1850 or in 2020, (well, ignoring air conditioning!) I'd choose 1850. I would rather live in slavery with a wife, a family, respectable work, honor, faith and meaning to my life. This idea that slaves were beat and in chains daily is a giant lie. Yes, it was a hard life. But I would have had twice the chance of surviving to birth. And even after all the diseases of those days and lack of medicine, I would still have a much greater chance of growing up. I would have purpose and honor rather than a drug/alcohol addiction. And rather than worshipping at the alter of democrats, I would have the basic understandings of Christian Faith.

So, blacks today are correct that they are far from "Free". They are slaves to welfare, to democrats, to drugs and to crime. What a sad life. I think the best things that could happen to the black community is for democrats to loose badly, for all forms of welfare to end, for an end to abortions/killing of the majority of black babies, and for an end to their addiction to gov't control which means they clean themselves up and get a job and get off drugs. Only then will today's blacks in the USA be better off than as slaves.

Your thoughts?

I'm acutely aware that this is my first post and it will look like I'm some Liberal no gooder but I couldn't help myself after reading some huge misconceptions here and would like to chime in. To begin, lets look at slave marriages and families. It's estimated conservatively that around 10-20% of slave marriages were torn apart by the sale of one of the parents, and that doesn't include the sale of children which was also not a positive thing for the happy slave family (source). Your fantasy of what being a slave is like is so monumentally skewed from reality I struggle to even begin. It is inconcievable for someone today to have their wife or husband sold. For money, a thousand if they were really good at slavin' away, like they were just some sort of unfeeling working machine.

Majority of black children today DO grow up with their fathers in the household (source), and on some metrics they are more involved with their children than any other racial groups such as Whites or Hispanics, in bathing and meal eating for instance.

And then the topic of abortions. I hate abortions, it's murder and it's disgusting that it's so common nowadays. I don't know the reality on the 60% number but it sounds reasonable to me. But it was also common back then. Abortions have been performed since writing was invented at least, and the 18th and 19th century were no exceptions. One estimate of abortion rates written in the 1860s suggests up to 10% of women had had an abortion in their lifetime, and up to 25% of all pregnancies ended in abortion. It's common now and it was common then. (source, page 76, sorry you need an account for this one).

In regards to what you said about their being no honour nor hope in today's meaningless life, I want to share with you some stories from former slaves regarding their fellow slaves taking their own lives. Talk about no hope. So no, blacks today don't have it worse than literal human chattel. Blacks today live well, they are more educated than ever, they kill themselves less than whites, and they are human beings deserving of basic human decency.

 

[jontte]

well,do all stats point it wrong then??
according to them blacks kill blacks far more and more often than whites??

 

[Joe SA]

well,do all stats point it wrong then??
according to them blacks kill blacks far more and more often than whites??

Called tribal wars here and still ongoing. They hate each others guts, Zulu, Xhosa, Sotho, Venda, Nguni, San and another 6 smaller tribes each with own kings and headsman.

 

[jayjay]

Welfare - yes - here in Oz it was brought in for 6 weeks to enable those who lost their jobs to get by till they found another. Unfortunately for many it is now a way of life. And a cycle that is difficult to break. Free welfare, health, transport, benefits, subsidised rentals - who would want a 40hr a week job that pays barely more than the dole ( what we call unemployment benefits ), then have to pay for health, rent/mortgage etc on top.
Some do, and break the cycle. Many want to break the cycle, but find it difficult. I know many who hate being on the dole, but are in a cycle of crime, drugs, violence, and see nothing at the end of the tunnel.
And our Labor Party ( socialist leaning ) generally have the welfare voters in their pockets, promises of more money, benefits etc.

Control the purse strings, and you control the masses.

 

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[jontte]

that vid is something the left would like to bury in very deep hole..

 

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