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Food is still moving across the planet at a furious rate so any shortages people are seeing in their particular country is in part due to the bidding auction nature or things. If ten million cashed up inhabitants of China are prepared to pay more for grains or meat than you are then they get it. Here our lamb is more expensive than prime cuts of beef often and that because the Arabs, and now the Chinese, are bidding more and the farmers sell it to them.

Same with our dairy, butter went up overnight to $4.50 a Lb and the stupid parrots in the supermarkets said it was because of the drought. That was 5 years ago and the price hasn't come down. About that time they had built a huge new airpost, Brisbane West, and cargo jumbos arrive and leave all the time bringing in chinese eBay purchases etc and departing full of local butter, cheese, etc. I still eat butter but the poorer people in the sh*tty suburbs are probably eating Margarine made from imported Chinese Canola oil.
 

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Food is still moving across the planet at a furious rate so any shortages people are seeing in their particular country is in part due to the bidding auction nature or things. If ten million cashed up inhabitants of China are prepared to pay more for grains or meat than you are then they get it. Here our lamb is more expensive than prime cuts of beef often and that because the Arabs, and now the Chinese, are bidding more and the farmers sell it to them.

Same with our dairy, butter went up overnight to $4.50 a Lb and the stupid parrots in the supermarkets said it was because of the drought. That was 5 years ago and the price hasn't come down. About that time they had built a huge new airpost, Brisbane West, and cargo jumbos arrive and leave all the time bringing in chinese eBay purchases etc and departing full of local butter, cheese, etc. I still eat butter but the poorer people in the sh*tty suburbs are probably eating Margarine made from imported Chinese Canola oil.
We had potato shortages here in the uk twice in the 70s and 80s, prices went up, but never came down again.
 

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With your population and land area you'll be in deep shite in a decade or two Bill. Ten years ago I read a report on excess deaths in the UK over the winter period. That's a euphemism for old singles on pensions freezing in their flats because they choose to eat instead of turning on the heater. They can't afford both it seems. So they eat, and get illnesses from the cold and die.
 

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there are always excess deaths in the winter in the UK, thats when most oldies die.
as for "heat or eat" thats rubbish, if people are on low pensions they can get "pension credit" which is a benefit paid over here, housing benefit covers rent or a large proportion of it and council tax rebate is available too.
 

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there are always excess deaths in the winter in the UK, thats when most oldies die.
as for "heat or eat" thats rubbish, if people are on low pensions they can get "pension credit" which is a benefit paid over here, housing benefit covers rent or a large proportion of it and council tax rebate is available too.
Theres always old people dying supposedly from the heat or the cold. Even if its not entirely true it makes good press.
 

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Theres always old people dying supposedly from the heat or the cold. Even if its not entirely true it makes good press.
yup it is all about the ratings and they don't care if it's true or not,they will fuel a fire,,,(like racism),,, for the simple fact that the morons of the world eat it up
 

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there are always excess deaths in the winter in the UK, thats when most oldies die.
as for "heat or eat" thats rubbish,
You need to come out of your bunker from time to time. You might learn something about the world.

Excess winter deaths as a proportion of all deaths (%) 4.61 3.76 High winter death rates are often linked with fuel poverty. Compared to Sweden, the UK has a 23% higher rate of excess deaths in the winter despite the fact the UK has much milder winters than Sweden. Proportion unable to afford to heat their home adequately
 

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if someones state pension is not enough to live on in the UK they can apply for pension credit as I have already stated, with the modern welfare state there is no need for someone to heat or eat.
it makes good newspaper copy but it only affects a fraction of the population and there are usually other factors involved.
 
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if someones state pension is not enough to live on in the UK they can apply for pension credit as I have already stated, with the modern welfare state there is no need for someone to heat or eat.
it makes good newspaper copy but it only affects a fraction of the population and there are usually other factors involved.
Have you updated your knowledge since the EU started taking in millions of muzzy refugees who seem to be taking all of the pension money, while contributing nothing but crime, and refusing to learn the language? Are you familiar with France's "Yellow Vest" movement? The Swedes are pretty angry too.
 

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Just filled another 10 x 5g buckets with rice, pinto/black beans. Stocked up on instants like ramen and other comfort foods.

FYI. Costco's Kirckland enriched rice is $18 for a 50lb bag. With buckets/lids/mylar/absorbers my cost is around $20 per 30lb bucket of rice and $40 for beans. Literally 250 lbs of rice and 60 lbs of beans, sealed and packed for 30 year shelf life for $240 total cost (10 buckets of food). To me thats an insane deal. My 15 year old is down with the cause, and helps out. I was explaining to him that if it was a true SHTF, that $240 in food might eclipse the value of our home (in a nice neighborhood)...

I didn't think I needed the food, but dang if we're talking years of drought and famine, our country's economy can't withstand that. Gone are the days of me believing that our country will stay true to itself and persevere in a crisis. The American spirit used to be strong, but the left has so ingrained the idea of government control and socialism, that in a major crisis, I have no doubt the left will push for full on socialism (never let a good crisis go to waste). If that's the case, I fear it will lead to civil unrest and possible civil war.

Also, I have several good buddies in the gun industry (from manufacturers to LGS owners). They all are telling me that we're in a lull period... that right now demand is not quite as high, and that the industry ramped up incredibly high to meet the demand. So that is why we're starting to see ammo on the shelves... They explain that that all the existing back stock got absorbed during the panic buys of 2020 (we have all heard this)... BUT that a crap ton (if not all) the readily available raw materials for manufacturing of ALL goods (not just guns/ammo) was depleted or strained, and that it might take several years for things to get back to normal. But the consensus was that this means that once the existing stock in the system is depleted, we will see another wave of shortages, which will lead to panic buying, and higher prices, and it gonna get ugly... And that's nothing to do with food... unless you consider the impact to trucks/shipping/manufacturing and food processing equipment issues... It could all tie in. (I hope my buddies are wrong).

Get ready folks.
 

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Have you updated your knowledge since the EU started taking in millions of muzzy refugees who seem to be taking all of the pension money, while contributing nothing but crime, and refusing to learn the language? Are you familiar with France's "Yellow Vest" movement? The Swedes are pretty angry too.
I dont live in the EU, not anymore I dont, we are no longer part of the fourth Reich.
 

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its not so much food shortages over here, there are no problems with the supply chain, its more to do with a lack of drivers because many are isolating at home because they have been near a person who has been infected with Covid.
 

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