What is an Economic Collapse?

[booter360]

bro, IMHO, the president is nothing more than a well paid front man, that is ran by the rich and powerful, and told what to, and what not to say.

couldn't of said it better myself! That's why government is nothing but a money game. The rich choose who they want for office. All politicians are owned by at least one big business.

 

[Hades]

bro, IMHO, the president is nothing more than a well paid front man, that is ran by the rich and powerful, and told what to, and what not to say.

Now that my friend I agree with 100%.
That was my point from the beginning, Who is made president really does not matter.

 

[White Tiger]

Hard to come by this knowledge...but R's and D's are two sides of the same coin...but
...

...I wasn't ready and wasn't awake until AFTER working to get "W" RE-elected!

Because of the importance of:

A) the Supreme Court picks - that was BEFORE John Roberts

B) the spending of the D's versus the fiscal control of the R's - that was before spending $3 trillion more than we had.

C) Stopping the erosion of civil liberties - before "W" extended the Clinton assault weapons ban, passed the patriot act, extended the patriot act, started an internal lend-lease act with local law enforcement agencies - paving the way for drones, armored personnel carriers...not even counting the automatic small arms - decommissioned battlefield weapons...

D) protecting American borders - BEFORE he REFUSED to stop illegal aliens from becoming an epidemic and BEFORE a 10 years war that left us weaker than we were before - and I STILL think the war on terror was unavoidable.


I could go on, but I'm only depressing myself. I will do the expedient thing in order to stop a D from doubling down on all of this...but then again, I no longer believe the economic collapse which began under Bush and was made WORSE by Obama...can be avoided. Austerity means the lefties will riot, doing NOTHING will cause those on the right (who are meant to PAY for the mistakes they don't realize are mistakes), to consider rioting to staunch the bleeding-off of resources they worked to earn...

In the end...we are the "lamb invited to dine between the two wolves" that John Adams warned us would happen if we allowed the government to become too strong.

he said the only thing that would keep this at bay...was kf the lamb was well armed...and THAT delay might aid us until we have enough provisions - for at least a year.

 

[White Tiger]

Remembered reading an article that explained this topic pretty well - it's not the exact article - but it's close:

The Economic Collapse is Not a Single Event

And when your website's name is "The Economic Collapse"...I consider it pretty authoritative!

 

[Sildaekar]

im a bit of a conspiracy theorist myself, and have seen shit that would blow the minds of the normal sheeple.
that being said, watch the movie "Zeigeist the movie" and get back to me on that whole "if there wasnt a WW1 there wouldnt have been the crash of 29" thing. IMHO, it was set up.

I have seen the Zeigeist movies, and I love them all, they make very valid points however I believe they are slightly mislead.

The question of "if there is an economic collapse" is essiantially non-existant, the real question is "when the economic collapse happens" it is only a matter of time and personally I believe we are looking at a scale of 10-20 years before this takes place.

Once it does there WILL be another civil war, however the lines will not be as clearly defined as north vs. South like last time. Not to mention with all the enemies America has made we will more then likely also face a foriegn military invasion as well. I believe the only ones that may help the US government would be the Canadians and the Brits....everyone else will stand in awe as the giant falls...

 

[Clyde]

I have seen the Zeigeist movies, and I love them all, they make very valid points however I believe they are slightly mislead.

The question of "if there is an economic collapse" is essiantially non-existant, the real question is "when the economic collapse happens" it is only a matter of time and personally I believe we are looking at a scale of 10-20 years before this takes place.

Once it does there WILL be another civil war, however the lines will not be as clearly defined as north vs. South like last time. Not to mention with all the enemies America has made we will more then likely also face a foriegn military invasion as well. I believe the only ones that may help the US government would be the Canadians and the Brits....everyone else will stand in awe as the giant falls...

I to believe that some degree of economic collapse is inevitable. However, I think it will happen sooner than 10 - 20 years.
I agree that many countries will be sitting on the sidelines waiting to take a piece of the USA. Some will do it as "pay back" most others are just opportunists.
America needs to definitely shore its self up starting yesterday! However, when the country continuously elects/reelects spineless politicians who think we should sit in a big ### circle singing kumbaya we are left to watch our defenses get decapitated.

 

[White Tiger]

For those who were swayed by zeitgeist: The Parallels Between Jesus and Horus: A Refutation

I might also suggest a production presented by a non-Christian called: The Daniel Project.

...I'm not sure what either has to do with the topic?

So, to get us back on track...check out what these folks (whom I check on often) have to say - and the irreverent ways they say it:

http://www.zerohedge.com/

Bottom line, the longer it takes for it to get bad enough for (each of) you (who haven't started prepping yet) to think it's finally crossed the line...is more time for you to buy food...just START...something big is coming, and most won't see it until its too late...

 

[Sildaekar]

For those who were swayed by zeitgeist: The Parallels Between Jesus and Horus: A Refutation

I might also suggest a production presented by a non-Christian called: The Daniel Project.

...I'm not sure what either has to do with the topic?

So, to get us back on track...check out what these folks (whom I check on often) have to say - and the irreverent ways they say it:

http://www.zerohedge.com/

Bottom line, the longer it takes for it to get bad enough for (each of) you (who haven't started prepping yet) to think it's finally crossed the line...is more time for you to buy food...just START...something big is coming, and most won't see it until its too late...

There is more to the zeitgeist then religion, actually that is a small portion of it, most has to do with economics if you watch it all the way through and how (basically) the central bank runs america.

 

[White Tiger]

There is more to the zeitgeist then religion, actually that is a small portion of it, most has to do with economics if you watch it all the way through and how (basically) the central bank runs america.

It's the premise...I don't like any production seeking to earn your trust by marginalizing truth...in order to give you a new one.

I whole-heartedly agree with the idea that a central bank controls every nation, that they are privately held (and are not part of any Federal government). They do have something in common with the folks who produced zeitgeist - neither fears man, or God.

 

[Hades]

I have seen the Zeigeist movies, and I love them all, they make very valid points however I believe they are slightly mislead.

The question of "if there is an economic collapse" is essiantially non-existant, the real question is "when the economic collapse happens" it is only a matter of time and personally I believe we are looking at a scale of 10-20 years before this takes place.

Once it does there WILL be another civil war, however the lines will not be as clearly defined as north vs. South like last time. Not to mention with all the enemies America has made we will more then likely also face a foriegn military invasion as well. I believe the only ones that may help the US government would be the Canadians and the Brits....everyone else will stand in awe as the giant falls...

When the US economics colapses, there will be no help from any other countrys, And you know it, we crash they crash.
All economys are linked in todays world, The haves that invest in all of our stocks are from all over, our morgages are bundled and sold all over, its a giant web that the average person never takes the time to contemplate. Its global finances, everyone has been able to pad the effects from greece, let it be a major economic country and see what happens. It will be dominoes, the world is built like a house of cards, each one supporting each other some, some more than others.
Everyone else is tetering on the same edge as we are. Uk is a trillion in debt, so is china, lol
A crash here and people are starving in many parts of the world in a week, period.
A real crash somewhere else and we will soon follow, its that simple.
It is not like America is waiting for a heart attack, we have an infection, (like ganggreen, LOL) , it will be slow and methodical, then there will be a breaking point where it rapidly runs downhill. America will not amputate the socialist limbs that are killing it, so its terminal.

 

[Hades]

They do have something in common with the folks who produced zeitgeist - neither fears man, or God.

 

[Krime]

I have seen the Zeigeist movies, and I love them all, they make very valid points however I believe they are slightly mislead.

The question of "if there is an economic collapse" is essiantially non-existant, the real question is "when the economic collapse happens" it is only a matter of time and personally I believe we are looking at a scale of 10-20 years before this takes place.

Once it does there WILL be another civil war, however the lines will not be as clearly defined as north vs. South like last time. Not to mention with all the enemies America has made we will more then likely also face a foriegn military invasion as well. I believe the only ones that may help the US government would be the Canadians and the Brits....everyone else will stand in awe as the giant falls...

Yes the author makes valid points in Zietgiest the movies, however some, like the religious aspect of Christian history, has been disproven.

 

[Sildaekar]

When the US economics colapses, there will be no help from any other countrys, And you know it, we crash they crash.
All economys are linked in todays world, The haves that invest in all of our stocks are from all over, our morgages are bundled and sold all over, its a giant web that the average person never takes the time to contemplate. Its global finances, everyone has been able to pad the effects from greece, let it be a major economic country and see what happens. It will be dominoes, the world is built like a house of cards, each one supporting each other some, some more than others.
Everyone else is tetering on the same edge as we are. Uk is a trillion in debt, so is china, lol
A crash here and people are starving in many parts of the world in a week, period.
A real crash somewhere else and we will soon follow, its that simple.
It is not like America is waiting for a heart attack, we have an infection, (like ganggreen, LOL) , it will be slow and methodical, then there will be a breaking point where it rapidly runs downhill. America will not amputate the socialist limbs that are killing it, so its terminal.

I agree with you there however one must keep in mind that although we are all teetering on the same ledge not all countries are as far over as the US. The US is barely hanging on by the finger tips...all the other countries are standing on the ledge looking over.

Once America falls, the other countries will follow suite, all that matters is how long it's going to take. Some countries are much better off then others.

Btw, love the gangreen comparison...very accurate.

 

[White Tiger]

Yes the author makes valid points in Zietgiest the movies, however some, like the religious aspect of Christian history, has been disproven.

That is patently false. You may say you think this to be so, or you believe it to be so, but if you are dismissing the concept OF truth...it simply cannot be so.

Perhaps you meant to add some type of qualifier? Because points can NOT be valid if they are based upon ungrounded, unsupported hearsay - especially between some egyptologists ,made-up parallels between Jesus and the demi-god horus....which renders any parallels baseless, groundless attacks on the morality the founders used to establish this country. The deliberate substitution of fiction in the place of fact, illustrate a deliberate effort to marginalize the current spiritual direction of the masses in order to implement the real manipulation.

Kind of what the Muslim Brotherhood might teach your children if you don't pay attention at school board meetings, or the tripe that progressives have taught you for years - all in an attempt to influence a new generation of little lefties they can manipulate in order to elect socialists.

Leave out a few facts,substitute some helpful lies...and no ones the wiser...especially if you can marginalize, minimize, and silence all opposition.

 

[White Tiger]

Now that my friend I agree with 100%.
That was my point from the beginning, Who is made president really does not matter.

QFT - except on their influence in social issues, which have direct impact on the moral character of the country.

 

[lmskingj]

I to believe that some degree of economic collapse is inevitable. However, I think it will happen sooner than 10 - 20 years.
I agree that many countries will be sitting on the sidelines waiting to take a piece of the USA. Some will do it as "pay back" most others are just opportunists.
America needs to definitely shore its self up starting yesterday! However, when the country continuously elects/reelects spineless politicians who think we should sit in a big ### circle singing kumbaya we are left to watch our defenses get decapitated.

Honestly I believe that we have approximately one to two years until we experience the start of the economic collapse, which will likely happen fairly quickly. I strongly believe that once Obama Care is put fully into play we will see people experience severe hardship and due to businesses already closing their doors, laying people off, and reducing people's hours just since the election 20 days ago, I can only begin to imagine what is going to happen. I know that things are going to get much worse before we can ever start to see them get better. I heard on Fox News Radio this morning that Obama is trying to make it where he can serve a 3rd term. If this happens and I'm not so sure it will/could then we are really all screwed with 8 years of increasingly worse than the first 4 years. I have seen the economy growing weaker and weaker and I have seen people slip into poverty and I fear that at the rate we are going we are all going to go through extremely tough and trying times. Like I said on election night after they called Ohio.... "Hang on tight! It's going to be a rough ride!" And then I began prepping!

 

[Krime]

That is patently false. You may say you think this to be so, or you believe it to be so, but if you are dismissing the concept OF truth...it simply cannot be so.

Perhaps you meant to add some type of qualifier? Because points can NOT be valid if they are based upon ungrounded, unsupported hearsay - especially between some egyptologists ,made-up parallels between Jesus and the demi-god horus....which renders any parallels baseless, groundless attacks on the morality the founders used to establish this country. The deliberate substitution of fiction in the place of fact, illustrate a deliberate effort to marginalize the current spiritual direction of the masses in order to implement the real manipulation.

Kind of what the Muslim Brotherhood might teach your children if you don't pay attention at school board meetings, or the tripe that progressives have taught you for years - all in an attempt to influence a new generation of little lefties they can manipulate in order to elect socialists.

Leave out a few facts,substitute some helpful lies...and no ones the wiser...especially if you can marginalize, minimize, and silence all opposition.

Do you mean me personally here? cuz i didnt for the movie, lol

 

[Clyde]

Honestly I believe that we have approximately one to two years until we experience the start of the economic collapse, which will likely happen fairly quickly. I strongly believe that once Obama Care is put fully into play we will see people experience severe hardship and due to businesses already closing their doors, laying people off, and reducing people's hours just since the election 20 days ago, I can only begin to imagine what is going to happen. I know that things are going to get much worse before we can ever start to see them get better. I heard on Fox News Radio this morning that Obama is trying to make it where he can serve a 3rd term. If this happens and I'm not so sure it will/could then we are really all screwed with 8 years of increasingly worse than the first 4 years. I have seen the economy growing weaker and weaker and I have seen people slip into poverty and I fear that at the rate we are going we are all going to go through extremely tough and trying times. Like I said on election night after they called Ohio.... "Hang on tight! It's going to be a rough ride!" And then I began prepping!

One thing standing in his way is the 22nd Amendment to the US Constitution;

The Twenty-second Amendment of the United States Constitution sets a term limit for election to the office of President of the United States. The Congress passed the amendment on March 21, 1947. It was ratified by the requisite number of states on February 27, 1951.

Amendment XXII

Section 1.

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

It took almost 4 years for this Amendment to be fully ratified an set into law. Therefore, it would be highly unlikely that he could overturn the 22nd Amendment during his term.
Considering the process required to add an Amendment I do not foresee it happening.

Here is process to create an Amendment found in Article V of the US Constitution;

Article V

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.

 

[White Tiger]

Do you mean me personally here? cuz i didnt for the movie, lol

Not sure - maybe you can better define the disproven portion of Christian history to which you were referring?

As, I am not aware of any?

 

[Krime]

Not sure - maybe you can better define the disproven portion of Christian history to which you were referring?

As, I am not aware of any?

You know i ment the Zietgiest move Christian portion was disproven right? Not the bible accounts.