Clyde
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Ah, the vicious "tit for tat" spiral that is foreign trade
What is an Economic Collapse?
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Clyde
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I thought you would appreciate that one!
That was a good one
Krime
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LOL, they cash in and we aint gonna have to worry about whos gonna be president! Thats a whole other type of shit hitten the fan right there lmao!
Absolutly true, But the scenerios are a constant, the players, as well as technology are variables.
But when studying current situations, history is the best resource for predetermining actions and reactions of human nature.
It also shows how closely the world is really tied together. For example if there had been no depression in US there would have been no WWII, If there had not been WWI, there would not have been a depression in 29.
A depression will happen again. we print more money, makes our worth less, we borrow more, we cant even pay the intrest on what we already have.
Noone can cut a single program, it would be political suicide. Yet they grow programs, to buy more voting block power.
It is a tower to the sky that has no foundation, it only stands because of the braces scrapped onto its sides. It cannot perpetually exist. Yet noone can stop it. History has proven that that the future is Doomed.
But technology, weapons, peoples outlook now compared to then will make this one catistrophic.
Furthermore it is sad that most Americans believe China owns our national debt.
in fact it only makes my points above more realistic.
China has been cashing in thier debt. Over the past year, dropping from $1.31 trillion in June 2011 to $1.16 trillion in June 2012.
Dont take a genious to realize thier investment is going down, while our debt is still going up.
Its our money that the government took (ahem invested)
We now owe just under 5 trillion to Social Security and federal pensions.
Sorry to be the one to tell you we are robbing ourselves now.
And then there is always the big cadoo about the puppet, the blametaker no matter the party, is nothing more than the distraction while the puppet masters, (house and senate) do the work.
in fact it only makes my points above more realistic.
China has been cashing in thier debt. Over the past year, dropping from $1.31 trillion in June 2011 to $1.16 trillion in June 2012.
Dont take a genious to realize thier investment is going down, while our debt is still going up.
Its our money that the government took (ahem invested)
We now owe just under 5 trillion to Social Security and federal pensions.
Sorry to be the one to tell you we are robbing ourselves now.
And then there is always the big cadoo about the puppet, the blametaker no matter the party, is nothing more than the distraction while the puppet masters, (house and senate) do the work.
Krime
M.I.A.
im a bit of a conspiracy theorist myself, and have seen shit that would blow the minds of the normal sheeple.
that being said, watch the movie "Zeigeist the movie" and get back to me on that whole "if there wasnt a WW1 there wouldnt have been the crash of 29" thing. IMHO, it was set up.
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I think that we've been in the first stages of total economic collapse since about 2009. I think that if the little emperor is reelected, then it will be the beginning of the end. The markets have no confidence in this administration-and any economic progress that's been achieved since 2009 has been in spite of-rather than attributable to the inept Obama administration.
I cannot say that who gets the next presidency will matter, and I will tell you why.
A democrat president with a rep controlled house has no power, the same the other way around.
1) If it is not to declare troops to conflict (he cannot even call it war, congress has to and can override the president after 48 hrs, educate yourselves with War powers resolution 1973)
2) He can recognise another nation as a nation, Like Isreal or kosovo without congress
3) He can either accept or veto a bill that is sent to him (he doesnt even have the power to line item veto, its a all or nothing deal)
4) He can issue his own executive orders
5) He has to prepare a budget (that has to be approved by congress)
6) appoint over 6,000 people into positions in government (not congress or house)
& last but most importantly
#7) Suggest what is needed to the house and congress, If Congress should adjourn without acting on those proposals, he has the power to call it into special session. But beyond this, the president, as head of a political party and as principal executive officer of the United States government, is primarily in a position to influence public opinion and thereby to influence the course of legislation in Congress.
People have forgotten what they learned in the 6th grade. Are so busy in thier everyday fight for survival that they have fallen into the someone to blame mentality. Are so busy they have lost the marble under the shells and only see the one in the middle because it is stuck out just a little more on purpose, to catch the attention, while the ones in the back do what we blame him for.
I have never heard someone say congress is screwing them, not once.
Does the president write the bills, add all the pork barrels, and whatnot? No it is done where noone is looking, you fell for the slieght of hand.
He only has the power that we give him through our reps in the house and senate. He is the patsy.
A republican president with a dem. house and senate, will override every veto and simply be more of the same.
WAKE UP AMERICA.
We are so far into this whirlpool that we cannot stop the suction into the sewer. With the momentum we are moving there is little chance that we will even be lucky enough to be the little piece that pops back out from the flush.
It is mathmatically imposible to pay down the deficit without cutting programs, its just that simple.
Many programs are simply just paying tithes to the masses to buy more time.
Name a single program that can be cut without an uprising of the people.
Name 1 program that would not be political suicide to cut out.
And thus the circle continues on a path with but 1 outcome. It truly is that simple.
I am a simpleton, when it is broken down to its smallest terms, and it is tried to be rebuilt logically, it cannot be done. The only reason it has not collapsed already is just from the volosity of our sheer mass. Even that will be slowed down to the breaking point eventually, and we will have the glide path of a helicopter.
Our money is worth less every day, and there is no logical conclusion that an informed person can make Except, It cannot continue and have an acceptable outcome.
A democrat president with a rep controlled house has no power, the same the other way around.
1) If it is not to declare troops to conflict (he cannot even call it war, congress has to and can override the president after 48 hrs, educate yourselves with War powers resolution 1973)
2) He can recognise another nation as a nation, Like Isreal or kosovo without congress
3) He can either accept or veto a bill that is sent to him (he doesnt even have the power to line item veto, its a all or nothing deal)
4) He can issue his own executive orders
5) He has to prepare a budget (that has to be approved by congress)
6) appoint over 6,000 people into positions in government (not congress or house)
& last but most importantly
#7) Suggest what is needed to the house and congress, If Congress should adjourn without acting on those proposals, he has the power to call it into special session. But beyond this, the president, as head of a political party and as principal executive officer of the United States government, is primarily in a position to influence public opinion and thereby to influence the course of legislation in Congress.
People have forgotten what they learned in the 6th grade. Are so busy in thier everyday fight for survival that they have fallen into the someone to blame mentality. Are so busy they have lost the marble under the shells and only see the one in the middle because it is stuck out just a little more on purpose, to catch the attention, while the ones in the back do what we blame him for.
I have never heard someone say congress is screwing them, not once.
Does the president write the bills, add all the pork barrels, and whatnot? No it is done where noone is looking, you fell for the slieght of hand.
He only has the power that we give him through our reps in the house and senate. He is the patsy.
A republican president with a dem. house and senate, will override every veto and simply be more of the same.
WAKE UP AMERICA.
We are so far into this whirlpool that we cannot stop the suction into the sewer. With the momentum we are moving there is little chance that we will even be lucky enough to be the little piece that pops back out from the flush.
It is mathmatically imposible to pay down the deficit without cutting programs, its just that simple.
Many programs are simply just paying tithes to the masses to buy more time.
Name a single program that can be cut without an uprising of the people.
Name 1 program that would not be political suicide to cut out.
And thus the circle continues on a path with but 1 outcome. It truly is that simple.
I am a simpleton, when it is broken down to its smallest terms, and it is tried to be rebuilt logically, it cannot be done. The only reason it has not collapsed already is just from the volosity of our sheer mass. Even that will be slowed down to the breaking point eventually, and we will have the glide path of a helicopter.
Our money is worth less every day, and there is no logical conclusion that an informed person can make Except, It cannot continue and have an acceptable outcome.
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I agree with everything you've said here. That said........Obama's got to go. He's clearly operating on an agenda that is not in this country's best interest. Whether he's a radical islam sympathizer, a communist, a socialist, a black seperatist-doesn't really matter. For this country to begin to heal economically, and repair our presence in the world at large, he's got to go.
Krime
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ya, thats the way its written down anyway, but hardly the way it come to play, IMHO.
what about the stuff you dont hear about?
Black ops n such?
you thing that gets ran through congress?
or how about assasinations, like quite possably JFK, you think they take a vote on that?
stuff does happen without permissions. millions are spent, w/o pryor knowledge.
as you know damn well, history didnt always exactly happen quite like they say it did in 6th grade history either.
if America is to be "awakened" they/we need to know/understand/learn truths to our history as well.
personally it saddens me that Romney n Obama are our options! IMHO, i think a gang banger could do a better job!
Black ops are not what everyone is thinking is ruining this country. But I agree I left that off.
#8) the president has prior knowledge and orders Some black ops, others He needs Plausable Deniebility of and may or may not have exact knowledge of.
I would say there is a 90% chance that JFK was killed by our own government.
Any millions that are spent has been aproved by congress to be spent. I would like a few examples of what you are talking about w/o prior knowledge.
I agree History did not happen as it is taught, The victor writes history, that is a fact.
US history is full of 1/2 truths, and some outright double dealing.
As for our options I agree again, I will not be voting for who I want this term, I will simply be voting against whom I dont want.
I dont agree with 1/2 of what Romney believes in, I agree with nothing Obama believes in.
There are too few good men left to be the front man of our nation.
Krime
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"w/o pryor knowledge"
by this i mean w/o permitions of the president and/or congress.
take the JFK thing for example, do you think that was passed by congress? do you think JFK signed off on his own assasination?
there is constant shit being ran thats on a need to know bases, and yes sometimes the president/congress doesnt "need to know"
plausible denyability is a hell of a loophole for a "commander in chief"! non the less millions of dollars get spent. how so? how much money do you think is spent on fueling a C130 hercules, mid flight refuel, and parachute drop of a small squadren over, say Afganistan? let alone the technology they take with them, their pay, the piolts pay, satilight links to keep watch, radar planes to keep active during the mission like the U-2? i just spent a shitload of money right there, and i dont even know the half of what take place. and these missions are constent, but people like us will never know/hear about them ever......... unless someone screws the pooch.
AH, damn. I thought you knew something juicy for me to knaw on for a couple of days.
All spending for military, black- ops, Global warming studies etc. are approved by congress.
Its just that they agree to sign blank checks. But it is approved by congress.
Every one of those planes and satalites, drones , and boots on the ground are paid from congress approved sources.
Now I will say it is obvious that congress dont know what they are paying for, but they still approve it.
The president dont write those checks.
ok JFK, probably not, that was in the 60s,
We were talking about the power of the president, I was hoping for something with more meat.
I am damn sure president JFK did not order his own death.
So we are in agreement that those 8 things cover the powers of the president?
All spending for military, black- ops, Global warming studies etc. are approved by congress.
Its just that they agree to sign blank checks. But it is approved by congress.
Every one of those planes and satalites, drones , and boots on the ground are paid from congress approved sources.
Now I will say it is obvious that congress dont know what they are paying for, but they still approve it.
The president dont write those checks.
ok JFK, probably not, that was in the 60s,
We were talking about the power of the president, I was hoping for something with more meat.
I am damn sure president JFK did not order his own death.
So we are in agreement that those 8 things cover the powers of the president?
Krime
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its your story, ill let you tell it lol.
I was hoping you would simply be more specific, about anything the president can do that is not approved by congress.
I was hoping you knew an angle, or power that the president has that I had overlooked.
Krime
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bro, IMHO, the president is nothing more than a well paid front man, that is ran by the rich and powerful, and told what to, and what not to say.
