Update on chinese Coronavirus issue

[Kevin L]

As I've said before, who would want 72 virgins? Virgin would cry and scream, etc.

Get 72 hookers, they would be well versed in pleasuring men and wouldn't expect anything in return. Well, maybe a few dollars.

I'm not greedy . . . I'd be happy with only 4 or 5 hookers in the afterlife, LOL.

 

[Petoski]

I agree with Brent. Africa, Asia and Latin america will make the data look bad but in the more developed countries the stats will be totally different. The only stats of interest to me are in the country i live. These won't be anywhere near as bad as in the developed world unless the health services become completely overwhelmed. One thing that will happen if we get anywhere near the 80% infection rate it that services like waste collection and energy supply will start to deteriorate. This could push up the death rate although probably isn't counted in the figures.

 

[Maverick]

Cruise ship MSC Meraviglia turned away from two Caribbean ports amid coronavirus concerns

https://www.foxnews.com/travel/cruise-ship-msc-meraviglia-coronavirus-concerns

 

[Maverick]

Italy is a developed country with modern medicine
374 infections, 12 deaths

 

[Kevin L]

Italy is a developed country with modern medicine
374 infections, 12 deaths

Wonderful. Great.

I still wonder if the survivors will develop any chronic problems long-term.

People who get certian strains of the flu can develop Parkinson's Disease later in life.

 

[DrHenley]

I have used ZiCam (active ingredient is zinc) when I first felt a cold coming on, and I believe it has really been effective at limiting the duration and severity of colds.

Some cold viruses are coronaviruses.

So on a wild hunch, I Googled "coronavirus zinc"
O M G!
Zinc
Could the virus be this simple to fight?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2973827/

Increased intracellular Zn2+ concentrations are known to efficiently impair replication of a number of RNA viruses, e.g. by interfering with correct proteolytic processing of viral polyproteins. Here, we not only show that corona- and arterivirus replication can be inhibited by increased Zn2+ levels, but also use both isolated replication complexes and purified recombinant RdRps to demonstrate that this effect may be based on direct inhibition of nidovirus RdRps. The combination of protocols described here will be valuable for future studies into the function of nidoviral enzyme complexes.

 

[Dies Irae]

Recap time again

>NEWS
Cruise ship denied entry in the Caribbean
http://archive.is/xAfaj

Iran deputy health minister infected
http://archive.is/NXid3

18,300 infected in Iran, scientists estimate
http://archive.is/7nd5l

Man tests positive for nCoV in Brazil
http://archive.is/TMRte

>RESEARCH
Patient reinfects himself after recovery
http://archive.is/8Ppkx

Reinfection possible and even deadlier
http://archive.is/Iw58p

29 year old respiratory doctor dies after 4 weeks
https://archive.is/zImUv

>REMINDER
nCoV to cost global economy $1.1 trillion
http://archive.is/S4urn

China faces shortage of testing kits
http://archive.is/B9czu

China regularly changes definitions to fudge the numbers
http://archive.is/2xlZf

>SCIENTIFIC FIGURES
► Infected: 983,006
http://doi.org/10.1101/2020.02.12.20022434

>DETECTED CASES
► Detected: 81,298 ► Died: 2,771
http://bnonews.com/?s=2019-ncov

>COUNTRIES LIST
► China 78,073 (2,715) ► International 3,225 (56): S. Korea 1261 (12) Diamond Princess 705 (4) Italy 383 (12) Japan 172 (3) Iran 139 (19) Hong Kong 89 (2) Taiwan 32 (1) France 18 (2) Philippines 3 (1) Singapore 93 USA 57 Thailand 40 Bahrain 26 Kuwait 26 Australia 23 Malaysia 22 Germany 19 Vietnam 16 U.K. 13 U.A.E. 13 Canada 12 Spain 12 Macao 10 Iraq 5 Oman 4 Croatia 3 India 3 Austria 2 Finland 2 Israel 2 Lebanon 2 Pakistan 2 Russia 2 Sweden 2 Afghanistan 1 Algeria 1 Belgium 1 Brazil 1 Cambodia 1 Egypt 1 Georgia 1 Greece 1 North Macedonia 1 Nepal 1 Sri Lanka 1 Switzerland 1

>LATEST CHANGES
China +415 (+52) S. Korea +284 (+1) Italy +60 (+1) Japan +11 (+2) Iran +44 (+3) France +4 (+1) Diamond Princess +14 Singapore +2 Hong Kong +4 Thailand +3 Taiwan +1 Bahrain +3 Kuwait +15 Australia +1 Germany +1 Canada +1 Spain +3 Croatia +2 Finland +1 Lebanon +1 Pakistan +2 Sweden +1 Georgia +1 Greece +1 North Macedonia +1

More links coming soon

 

[DrHenley]

China regularly changes definitions to fudge the numbers
http://archive.is/2xlZf

This cracked me up

 

[Maverick]

My take
Declaring a global pandemic would be very costly, perhaps the reason the WHO has not plus fear of declaring a pandemic triggers global panic?
WHO
https://www.loc.gov/law/help/health-emergencies/who.php
CDC
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-re...aredness/regulations-laws-during-pandemic.htm

We layman are not told everything, that's a fact
It is impossible to get the true numbers within china, that's a fact.
Its impossible to get true numbers out side of china, that's fact
The numbers are substantially higher than whats reported in china, that's a fact
The numbers are substantially higher outside of china, that's a fact
Airport security is a joke, that's a fact
People entering these airports will lie to avoid quarantine, that's a fact
Public health officials can't even contain the seasonal flu, that's a fact
We have coronavirus super spreaders entering Western countries, that's a fact
We still don't have definitive proof where the virus came from lab or mammal/animal, that's a fact
Some signs show the incubation period longer than the 14 days, that's a fact
The virus can stay on surfaces longer than 9 days, that's a fact
Permanent damage is shown in patients lungs from the virus, that's a fact
Recovered patients have shown virus relapse with deadly consequences, that's a fact
The coronavirus has shown it spreads faster than the seasonal flu, that's a fact
Their are no definitive proof anyone infecting there pets outside of china with coronavirus, still a question mark from the CDC and Vets, that's a fact

People with the flu are most contagious in the first 3 or 4 days after becoming sick, a person can infect 1 day before symptoms develop and 5 to 7 days after becoming sick
People with coronavirus can infect people days before symptoms develop and continue to infect people 14 to 24 days

China would not shut down a majority of it's most important assets over the common seasonal flu, most of the world would not react the way it is over the common seasonal flu

 

[Dies Irae]

Croatian tests positive, was in UCL football match in Italy
http://archive.is/dnkFs

Asymptomatic carriers, asymptomatic transmission
http://archive.is/J0Wzo

Patients infectious after recovery
http://archive.is/tjjat

14% of recovered in Guangdong tested positive again
http://archive.is/V6IgT

 

[DrHenley]

My take
Declaring a global pandemic would be very costly, perhaps the reason the WHO has not plus fear of declaring a pandemic triggers global panic?

CDC press conference. Skip ahead to 8:50
She said it. She also said it's not if but when.

 

[jontte]

that one idiot who is tested here,took a train,no two trains,full of passangers, one long distance one commuter, prolly infected a shit load..and our
health officialls advice for us here ; wash your hands...and all will be well...

 

[Maverick]

CDC press conference. Skip ahead to 8:50
She said it. She also said it's not if but when.

Still not declared, she said it will

 

[Maverick]

sorry got two post in one, corrected

 

[Robinjopo1]

Just off by 52x

Leaked Documents Reveal Coronavirus Infections Up to 52 Times Higher Than Reported Figures in China’s Shandong Province https://www.theepochtimes.com/leake...al-numbers-up-to-52-times-higher_3251354.html

 

[Robinjopo1]

Who do you think is responsible for the 3 infectious men crashing our southern border?

Thank goodness they were quickly apprehended and quarantined.

 

[Brent S]

I agree with Brent. Africa, Asia and Latin america will make the data look bad but in the more developed countries the stats will be totally different. The only stats of interest to me are in the country i live. These won't be anywhere near as bad as in the developed world unless the health services become completely overwhelmed. One thing that will happen if we get anywhere near the 80% infection rate it that services like waste collection and energy supply will start to deteriorate. This could push up the death rate although probably isn't counted in the figures.

I can live with grocery stores being emptied out, trash services suspended and a lot of other things, but if the electricity got cut off it would take the event to a whole different level.

 

[Maverick]

Brazil is on the radar with 1

 

[Brent S]

Italy is a developed country with modern medicine
374 infections, 12 deaths

That works out right at 3%

 

[Proud Prepper]

Just off by 52x

Leaked Documents Reveal Coronavirus Infections Up to 52 Times Higher Than Reported Figures in China’s Shandong Province https://www.theepochtimes.com/leake...al-numbers-up-to-52-times-higher_3251354.html

My estimates are a 100 x higher, but half of those dont have symptoms.