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Despite the ominous discovery, the researchers were also able to discover that SARS-CoV-2 "has a much lower mutation rate and genetic diversity" than severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), which appeared in China in 2002.

The researchers also discovered "the spike (S) protein encoding gene of SARS-COV-2 is found relatively more conserved than other protein-encoding genes, which is a good indication for the ongoing antiviral drug and vaccine development."

A separate study conducted by researchers in Italy published last month found that the virus is slow to mutate, based on its genetic material. This could aid in helping large swaths of people over an extended period of time once a specific cure is found.
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The United States believes COVID-19 originated in a Wuhan laboratory as part of China's effort to demonstrate that its efforts to identify and combat viruses are equal to or than the capabilities of the United States, according to mutliple sources who have been briefed on the details of early actions by China's government and seen relevant materials.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/coronavirus-wuhan-lab-china-compete-us-sources
 
NIH Begins Study to Quantify Undetected Cases of Coronavirus Infection
Blood Samples from Healthy Volunteers Needed to Inform Public Health Decision Making
Investigators will analyze blood samples for two types of antibodies, anti-SARS-CoV-2 S protein IgG and IgM, using an ELISA (enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay) developed by researchers at NIAID and NIBIB. In blood samples found to contain antibodies against SARS-CoV-2, researchers may perform additional tests to evaluate the volunteers’ immune responses to the virus. These data may provide insight as to why these cases were less severe than those that lead to hospitalization.

Healthy volunteers over the age of 18 from anywhere in the United States can participate and will be asked to consent to enrollment over the telephone. Individuals with a confirmed history of COVID-19 or current symptoms consistent with COVID-19 are not eligible to participate.

Researchers are looking to get certain sample numbers from different parts of the country so right now enrollment is open to anyone, but it may be limited once caps for various areas are hit. To volunteer, send an email to: [email protected]. Be patient; a spokesperson says it may take some time (days to weeks) to hear back after volunteering.


https://www.niaid.nih.gov/news-even...tected-cases-coronavirus-infection#qa-section
 
Maverick said:
The United States believes COVID-19 originated in a Wuhan laboratory as part of China's effort to demonstrate that its efforts to identify and combat viruses are equal to or than the capabilities of the United States, according to mutliple sources who have been briefed on the details of early actions by China's government and seen relevant materials.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/coronavirus-wuhan-lab-china-compete-us-sources
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"The sources believe the initial transmission of the virus was bat-to-human, and that "patient zero" worked at the laboratory, then went into the population in Wuhan."

Only plausible explanation. We already know their lab practices were very sloppy with researchers getting splashed by bat urine, etc.

Occam's Razor...the explanation requiring the fewest assumptions that is consistent with all the facts is usually the correct one. In this case we really don't even need to make any assumptions at all. Just the facts themselves point to a sloppy lab worker.
 
COVID-19 Statistics as of 16 Apr 2020

210 Countries reporting 2,098,981 confirmed cases and 136,030 deaths
USA reporting 644,348 (+30,102 +5%) confirmed cases and 28,554 (+2,490 +10%) deaths
Excluding China and Iran:
Confirmed: 1,938,645 (+80,468 +4.3%)
Deaths: 127,819 (+7,927 +6.6%)
Recoveries: 393,632 (+59,378 +17.8%)
Deaths/(Deaths+Recoveries): 24.5% (-0.3)

Countries/States with 10,000 deaths or more.
USA........ 28,554 (+2,490 +10%)
Italy...... 21,645 (+578 +3%)
Spain...... 19,130 (+551 +3%)
France..... 17,167 (+1,438 +9%)
UK......... 12,868 (+761 +6%)
New York... 11,586 (+752 +7%)
 
The Chinese New Year celebrations are what really gave the virus a jump start in infecting the world. People from all over the world were gathering together while the CCP already KNEW there was an outbreak.

It's criminal and they should be charged with crimes against humanity in the International Criminal Court at The Hague.
 
DrHenley said:
The Chinese New Year celebrations are what really gave the virus a jump start in infecting the world. People from all over the world were gathering together while the CCP already KNEW there was an outbreak.

It's criminal and they should be charged with crimes against humanity in the International Criminal Court at The Hague.
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The Hague won't touch it, one, it doesn't fall under Armed Activities, they will pass it off to the WHO

Article 56 International Health Regulations provides for arbitration only and only with china's consent, also, under sovereign immunity they can't be tried or held financially responsible.

The whole ICC, UN and IHR is nothing more than a puppet show, the only way to get back at china is demand western countries pull all business out of china and not allow china to do business in our perspective countries, also the financial institutions must remove china businesses from all stock market institutions. The caveat here is china is so far up our perspective countries ### it would be next to impossible to remove china's long reach. The last hope would have to come from the Western consumers. STOP BUYING CHINA'S FXXKEN SHIT, but that won't happen either, consumers shop according to their pocket book, they will or unsuspectedly sell their soul to save a buck.
 
DrHenley said:
The Chinese New Year celebrations are what really gave the virus a jump start in infecting the world. People from all over the world were gathering together while the CCP already KNEW there was an outbreak.

It's criminal and they should be charged with crimes against humanity in the International Criminal Court at The Hague.
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I found this

China, international law, and COVID-19
https://opinion.inquirer.net/128226/china-international-law-and-covid-19

COVID-19 and International Law: Must China Compensate Countries for the Damage?
https://www.justsecurity.org/69394/...-the-damage-international-health-regulations/
 
DrHenley said:
NIH Begins Study to Quantify Undetected Cases of Coronavirus Infection
Blood Samples from Healthy Volunteers Needed to Inform Public Health Decision Making
Investigators will analyze blood samples for two types of antibodies, anti-SARS-CoV-2 S protein IgG and IgM, using an ELISA (enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay) developed by researchers at NIAID and NIBIB. In blood samples found to contain antibodies against SARS-CoV-2, researchers may perform additional tests to evaluate the volunteers’ immune responses to the virus. These data may provide insight as to why these cases were less severe than those that lead to hospitalization.

Healthy volunteers over the age of 18 from anywhere in the United States can participate and will be asked to consent to enrollment over the telephone. Individuals with a confirmed history of COVID-19 or current symptoms consistent with COVID-19 are not eligible to participate.

Researchers are looking to get certain sample numbers from different parts of the country so right now enrollment is open to anyone, but it may be limited once caps for various areas are hit. To volunteer, send an email to: [email protected]. Be patient; a spokesperson says it may take some time (days to weeks) to hear back after volunteering.
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I don't think I have seen it posted here but NC has sent out 1,000 antibody tests to random citizens to try to determine how many have already had the Virus. Not sure if it will stop at 1,000 or if there are more to follow.
 
https://news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-relentless-march-europe-clouds-185729054.html
Coronavirus’s Relentless March in Europe Clouds Reopening Plans
For European leaders, the increasing numbers on Thursday signaled no letup in the need to balance the severe economic damage caused by the tight restrictions to fight the pandemic with the increasing death toll and the danger that prematurely easing lockdowns could spark a second wave of infections.

“Relaxing any of the measures in place would damage both public health and the economy,” said U.K. Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab, who is standing in for Boris Johnson while the prime minister recovers from an infection with the virus. “The worst thing we could do right now is ease up too soon and allow a second peak of the virus.”
 
DrHenley said:
We already know their lab practices were very sloppy with researchers getting splashed by bat urine, etc.
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There is so much anti China talk on this forum. Even if this did happen maybe people would like to remember USA labs left smallpox samples in a cardboard box in a cupboard and sent live anthrax to labs by mistake. Mistakes happen, evil things happen, good things happen. They happen because of people. Not Chinese people, not Russian people, just people.
 
Karloshi said:
There is so much anti China talk on this forum. Even if this did happen maybe people would like to remember USA labs left smallpox samples in a cardboard box in a cupboard and sent live anthrax to labs by mistake. Mistakes happen, evil things happen, good things happen. They happen because of people. Not Chinese people, not Russian people, just people.
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Agreed, there’s enough racism and political divide in the world allready without adding to it.
 
Thank you Karloshi for reminding us to stop opening another Pandoras box on another undefinable and indiscriminate theme. We all have done our share of mistakes. If someone ever finds out how much the CIA or KGB or GRU or MI5/6 or Mossad has done under the table...It is bad enough that parts of the Middle East hate America, now it is coming to the point that they hate EACH AND EVERY AMERICAN.....We do not want to do any more blanket bombing because of a couple of fools in N. Korea, China or any other land and end up hating the little people who are just as innocent as every person in this forum for spreading this or any other virus. I am thinking the most deadly virus in the world is "the virus of hate".
I cannot forget the old saying Granddad used to repeat:
"each time you point your finger at someone, there are 3 other fingers on your hand pointing back at you"!!
Gary
 
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