TEOTWAWKI 3- You Form a Survival Group of 25 Please Rank Needed Members By Function i.e. Doctor,Etc

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yup,surviving can be a dirty business and there's a big chance you'll have to do something very hard and unplesant..and it's not the time for book worms,
their time comes later,hopefully.
 
grayghost668 said:
if you think that some one such as me would follow you ,you are mistaken it will be dog eat dog and the weak will not survive,I wish you luck because if it does go to hell,,,,,,,,,,,,,,YOU ARE GOING TO NEED ALL THE LUCK YOU CAN GET
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What makes you think I want you? Any way to repeat for the millionth time, that was not what the thread was about, I think 2 people so far responded to the thread as was written.
 
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grayghost668 said:
AWWWWWWWWWWWWW my feelings are hurt,,,boo hoo,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Has nothing to do with feelings, you didn't respond to my thread and launched your own agenda. Prepping as far as I know involves preparing. If one has taken the time of putting together 25 people who can perform a function and keep themselves alive, assuming that a SHTF situation turns into TEOTWAWKI, like power initially goes out and then permanently goes out, they have a better chance to survive then random strangers.
 
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first of all,your number 1,high ranking mil,he's used to give orders,not taking them,very soon he will be tired of playing the second fiddle and kick your butt from your throne.
in a shtf situation you don't do anything like your dietician,you eat what you have,you eat what you get.
8,19,20,21,you don't need them 'cause your way too busy to survive,you don't have time to think how miserable my life is,it just is.
dental ###,not needed, the dentist can do whatever needs to be done,if you have electricity for his tools,othervise you need something from the museum for him/her to work with.
bakers,not needed,that's something everyone must/should do.
nurse,medic,combat medic is a must!

now that list is just too full of academics,paper pushers,survivability very low,it needs people who can do and those are far and few between on your list,as a whole that list is doomed.
 
jontte said:
this opinion is mine,and mine alone,I'd rather take an experienced NCO than an officer,they tend to be more hands on,less theory,but this is mine only.
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The two most dangerous things facing a professional soldier is (1) an officer with a plan, (2) an officer with a map.
 
this is based on my experience alone,as it's mandatory for service here,had an NCO,hard as steel,knew the job,took care of us,thought us but could be a nightmare if we screwed things up,it was someone you could follow as he did himself what he wanted us to do.
 
Ok Firstly I'm starting to doubt Edwards intentions, his list makes no real sense in skills selected and in order of priority. its nearly nonsensical, BUT if its what Edward wants good luck. Two Prepping is all a case of mind over matter Preppers really dont MIND others having different plans, but if you do not HAVE suitable skills you simply will not MATTER.
 
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jontte said:
this is based on my experience alone,as it's mandatory for service here,had an NCO,hard as steel,knew the job,took care of us,thought us but could be a nightmare if we screwed things up,it was someone you could follow as he did himself what he wanted us to do.
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I have never met an officer under the rank of Colonel whose plans survive the first hurdle, I'll salute them, I'll do my best to obey them, THEN I will take their orders and plans and go and ask the Regimental Sergeant Major how the job SHOULD be done. The only professional EFFECTIVE officers I have ever served with all rose through the ranks.
 
Silent Earth said:
Ok Firstly I'm starting to doubt Edwards intentions, his list makes no real sense in skills selected and in order of priority. its nearly nonsensical, BUT if its what Edward wants good luck. Two Prepping is all a case of mind over matter Preppers really dont MIND others having different plans, but if you do not like suitable skills you simply will not MATTER.
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and when people here disagree,it's butthurt time,you wanna be a leader?? with thin skin like that,it won't work,sorry!
 
I must admit after watching hundreds of movies and TV shows where the resistance or hero leader is inevitably a military man and gung ho/ bravado win the day in typical Hollywood fashion, where as in the real world most would have been wiped out by the end of the first episode / 20 minutes of a movie. It was refreshing to see the writers of Falling Skies combining a flawed but experienced soldier ( Colonel Weaver) with an experienced historian and teacher. The interaction and relationship between these two was how I could envisage people in a real world survival scenario having to cooperate and interact to overcome adversity.
 
jontte said:
first of all,your number 1,high ranking mil,he's used to give orders,not taking them,very soon he will be tired of playing the second fiddle and kick your butt from your throne.
in a shtf situation you don't do anything like your dietician,you eat what you have,you eat what you get.
8,19,20,21,you don't need them 'cause your way too busy to survive,you don't have time to think how miserable my life is,it just is.
dental ###,not needed, the dentist can do whatever needs to be done,if you have electricity for his tools,othervise you need something from the museum for him/her to work with.
bakers,not needed,that's something everyone must/should do.
nurse,medic,combat medic is a must!

now that list is just too full of academics,paper pushers,survivability very low,it needs people who can do and those are far and few between on your list,as a whole that list is doomed.
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Fine that's your opinion and I'll take that into mind. That was just the purpose of this straight forward thread and people made the most simplest direct thing into something more which is ridiculous. The purpose of this thread was to throw in ideas and see how important people ranked specific functionalities of a group of 25. I've learned that I should add farmers & outdoorsman to my group which I hadn't considered before. Thank you for that. Comments such as what is my function which was outside the group of 25, etc., are irrelevant to the thread/question I asked. As an aside, who says food, water, shelter, etc., has not been planned and are not at hand? You are assuming things that weren't relevant to the thread. If someone asks what does 2+2 equal the only answer is 4 not what does 2 represent, do 2 and 2 exist, etc. Sometimes a direct question is just that.
 
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that's the way it goes,you put up an idea,members dissect it,tell you,what and why in their opinion works and what not,then we rebuild it,dissect it again and perhaps find a solution that works.
I'm okay with that 'cause doing so have given me alot of ideas,lot of input and valuable knowledge and contacts.
 
I like and respect the whole thing here of exploring ideas about getting a group together. I would get over the defensiveness though as getting along on a forum is a lot easier than doing it in a real shtf situation. Dealing with all types of personalities is a sign of a good leader. As far as the workers, or outdoorsmen, those skills will be among the most needed. My advice is learn to relate to the people that are the ones that can feed and protect you.
 
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one thing I overlooked here you said top 25,,,how many are in this group,you have to have grunts to do the things your top 25 can't,knowing this will give a insight on what you are up to and maybe make the list as you see it more valid
 
One thing to consider here is twenty five is a large number of people to sustain. I would rather have a handful of cross trained people than a bunch of specialists. Less to feed and more adaptable. I hope you learned a little more here than just a need for outdoorsmen. Being able to relate to, and motivate and encourage others is as important as other skills.
 
Brent S said:
One thing to consider here is twenty five is a large number of people to sustain. I would rather have a handful of cross trained people than a bunch of specialists. Less to feed and more adaptable. I hope you learned a little more here than just a need for outdoorsmen. Being able to relate to, and motivate and encourage others is as important as other skills.
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25 plus spouses , offspring etc.
 
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