Protest Aftermath Everywhere

[bigpaul]

Exactly! I have always said, don't argue with a Policeman, I've been arrested a couple of times, they didn't even have to put handcuffs on me, i'll argue my case in court not on the street.

 

[BillMasen]

https://dailycaller.com/2020/06/12/minneapolis-city-council-votes-to-abolish-police/
Minneapolis City Council Unanimously Votes To Get Rid Of Police
The Minneapolis City Council unanimously voted Friday to “dismantle” the city’s police department as their solution to police violence after George Floyd’s death.

The City Council passed a resolution to focus on a community-based public safety system. President Lisa Bender, City Council Vice President Andrea Jenkins and other council members made the announcement at a rally Sunday afternoon, saying they plan to “dismantle” their police department. The money for the police will instead go towards a “community-based public safety model,” according to Reuters.

Antifa/ Dems / BLM 3 America 0

 

[BillMasen]

I can see the lawyers lining up to sue on behalf of anybody and everybody that gets injured or killed due to a lack of police department. Next a safety group will not have access to any police inter-cooperation. No powers of arrest, other than citizens arrest ( good luck with that -- the lawyers will eat them alive). As usual, city council is talking out their butts. Pandering for votes or afraid of their constituents. I am laughing my azz off. This is going to be fun to watch. I can see all the Uhaul trucks lining up and all the companies moving out. If you own property there, sell now, it will be worthless shortly.

Many american schools and colleges have already announced they will no longer work with local PDs

 

[bigpaul]

if somewhere has no Police then they have no law, it will be a free for all, or as we say WROL-without rule of law, also known as Anarchy, might just as well call it TEOTWAWKI because that is what it will be.

 

[tmttactical]

As the Blue states and the Blue cities burn, it will be a huge lesson for the cities and and states sitting on the fence. Come November, the population will have many examples of failed Democratic policies.

 

[Kevin L]

SIASD. Been stopped by the police. Been put in jail by the police. Here is the big secrete. Don't screw around with them. You will lose!!! Mind your manner, do as you are told and then get a lawyer, just that simple. No macho crap.

Agree 100%.

Besides . . . the more they "mistreat" you and the longer you take the high road . . . the bigger your settlement when you sue them in court.

I can't speak for other countries, but there are enough greedy lawyers here in the U.S. that will line up to take a civil case of police misconduct.

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

Nuts!

Sitting here laughing my hinny off! Personally, I hope this goes on for months! It will explode in their faces and make any SANE American vote Trump!

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

I can see the lawyers lining up to sue on behalf of anybody and everybody that gets injured or killed due to a lack of police department. Next a safety group will not have access to any police inter-cooperation. No powers of arrest, other than citizens arrest ( good luck with that -- the lawyers will eat them alive). As usual, city council is talking out their butts. Pandering for votes or afraid of their constituents. I am laughing my azz off. This is going to be fun to watch. I can see all the Uhaul trucks lining up and all the companies moving out. If you own property there, sell now, it will be worthless shortly.

Who says these new “cops” are going to follow the laws? They think all current ones are racist! I can see them arresting and beating Conservatives and Christians. Could be horrible for anyone against Sharia because islam is behind this too. Do you think these anarchists will get all the police firepower?

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

Many american schools and colleges have already announced they will no longer work with local PDs

After the elections, they need all Federal funding removed pronto. That will stop this crap in it’s tracks!

 

[Brent S]

https://dailycaller.com/2020/06/12/minneapolis-city-council-votes-to-abolish-police/
Minneapolis City Council Unanimously Votes To Get Rid Of Police
The Minneapolis City Council unanimously voted Friday to “dismantle” the city’s police department as their solution to police violence after George Floyd’s death.

The City Council passed a resolution to focus on a community-based public safety system. President Lisa Bender, City Council Vice President Andrea Jenkins and other council members made the announcement at a rally Sunday afternoon, saying they plan to “dismantle” their police department. The money for the police will instead go towards a “community-based public safety model,” according to Reuters.

I’m glad. Mainly because I don’t live there and they aren’t trying out this social experiment here. I do think it is a good idea to test this out somewhere. If it works, great, then we could try it in other places. More likely though it will be a miserable failure and then we stay with a way to protect people everywhere else. I do think our police need some policing and reforms, but dismantling them is insane.

 

[Brent S]

Seriously, with all that’s going on in our country right now I am really glad I’m into prepping and self sufficiency. It seems like everyone is hell bent on destroying the economy and society in general. The prepping philosophy was the reason I intentionally moved to a remote area, (not as remote as I would like lately), learned self sufficiency and gardening, got prepared to defend myself, and have provisions and supplies to weather the coming chaos. I just wish I had the resources to buy a large island right about now.

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

I’m glad. Mainly because I don’t live there and they aren’t trying out this social experiment here. I do think it is a good idea to test this out somewhere. If it works, great, then we could try it in other places. More likely though it will be a miserable failure and then we stay with a way to protect people everywhere else. I do think our police need some policing and reforms, but dismantling them is insane.

I’m confused. First you say you think it’s a good idea to test it out somewhere...since the only plan you are backing at this point IS dismantling the police, how can you then say, dismantling them is insane?

 

[LexiRae]

“This untested attempt to rely on local groups, who would replace the police, to protect the citizens from murder, rapes and other violence would include Islamic Sharia patrols, Black Panthers, La Raza, and other anti-Christian, anti-white social justice enforcers. ”

So they get rid of the trained police and bring in the trained racists?

 

[DrHenley]

I’m confused. First you say you think it’s a good idea to test it out somewhere...since the only plan you are backing at this point IS dismantling the police, how can you then say, dismantling them is insane?

I think Brent is saying he expects it to fail, and thus become a example of what NOT to do. The only problem with that is whenever the socialists or communists fail, they redirect the blame and say it wasn't given a chance. How many times does communism have to be an abject failure before they will admit that it's an abject failure?

I think in many ways what we are seeing is a rehash of the French Revolution which was all about revenge with little thought about what comes next. The American Revolution was more successful because they spent years debating how best to "form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity."

But as Alexanter Tytler said, the death knell of a Democracy is when "voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury."

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

I think Brent is saying he expects it to fail, and thus become a example of what NOT to do. The only problem with that is whenever the socialists or communists fail, they redirect the blame and say it wasn't given a chance. How many times does communism have to be an abject failure before they will admit that it's an abject failure?

I think in many ways what we are seeing is a rehash of the French Revolution which was all about revenge with little thought about what comes next. The American Revolution was more successful because they spent years debating how best to "form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity."

But as Alexanter Tytler said, the death knell of a Democracy is when "voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury."

That is still saying one thing and then another. If one said, I think dismantling the police is insane, but then said, of course if they went the insane route and disabled the police they would prove how insane it is. See the difference? One can’t back an idea and then say it is insane.

 

[Brent S]

I’m confused. First you say you think it’s a good idea to test it out somewhere...since the only plan you are backing at this point IS dismantling the police, how can you then say, dismantling them is insane?

The main thing I am glad about with this is that it’s not happening here where I live. I think when this fails there hopefully the far left liberals will see it was a stupid idea. If it somehow does succeed then great, they could do it elsewhere. I’m not optimistic of any success from it though. As I said though I do agree there should be police reform as many do get abusive. I also think that trying some new and different ideas in limited areas to see what could work makes sense. I just don’t think dismantling the police 100% anywhere is a good idea though.

 

[Brent S]

That is still saying one thing and then another. If one said, I think dismantling the police is insane, but then said, of course if they went the insane route and disabled the police they would prove how insane it is. See the difference? One can’t back an idea and then say it is insane.

I’m all for trying new ideas, but this one isn’t anything I would have wanted. You can like a concept yet not like all the details in it. This idea is insane, but reform isn’t. I think requiring the police to help each other when one gets out of line makes a lot more sense. Them having immunity from being held accountable is wrong too. Looks like that one is already coming to an end though.

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

The main thing I am glad about with this is that it’s not happening here where I live. I think when this fails there hopefully the far left liberals will see it was a stupid idea. If it somehow does succeed then great, they could do it elsewhere. I’m not optimistic of any success from it though. As I said though I do agree there should be police reform as many do get abusive. I also think that trying some new and different ideas in limited areas to see what could work makes sense. I just don’t think dismantling the police 100% anywhere is a good idea though.

I don’t see that happening. I do see this failing miserably. Did you see that ZERO WHITE MEN are represented and even the white women were demeaned by non capital letters? Also that Zero Asian men and Native American men were given a voice? Does that not strike you as racist and very unDemocratic?

 

[tmttactical]

Logistics and legalities. The city council is talking out their butts. A civil safety group will not be eligible for any federal police funds. The city will have to pick up the whole tab. Police departments and law enforcement agency's will not allow any inter-cooperation. Partly due to legal / civil liabilities and partly to guard their turf. Without the protection of being a legally constituted law enforcement organization, this group will have no more legal authority than any vigilantly organization. The city could not obtain or afford the liability insurance needed. Lost revenue--- no parking tickets, traffic tickets, fines as there will not be any legal basis for issuing or enforcing previous city ordinances. The Safety Group will not be recognized by any legal statutes currently in the city charter. What will the Police department be doing while all this is transpiring? How much armaments will disappear? How many vehicles will suddenly break down? How many on the job injuries will be claimed? The city council has not given any thought to the details, as usual they are just running off at the mouth. I personally hope they continue down this path. It will make great election advertisement. SIASD

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

if somewhere has no Police then they have no law, it will be a free for all, or as we say WROL-without rule of law, also known as Anarchy, might just as well call it TEOTWAWKI because that is what it will be.

Great point Paul about it being essentially TEOTWAWKI.