To vacc or not to vacc?

[PatsyJo]

I am in grief over the deaths of a really close relatives family! My post is not to be about should people take the COVID-19 vaccine or not to take the COVID-19 vaccine! I just want to share with you my heart that is so saddened by the deaths of close relatives that I loved so very much. The deaths involve the family of my 1st cousin who died many years ago from a heart attacked and left his wife and his 2 daughters! In July of this year one of the daughters were taken to ER by her mother. A week or so their mom went to the ER with breathing problems, by the time help was sent to the other daughters home, when help got to her she was already turning blue. Her husband was also admitted to the hospital. So the mother and her two daughters and son-in-law all had COVID 19! The daughter who got to the hospital first spent 58 days in the hospital fighting COVID-19 for her life. Her mother, her sister, and her brother in-law died from the COVID 19 Virus. I have a home health nurse that comes out to see me once a week and I shared with her my saddened heart. I didn't know if they had taken the COVID 19 Vaccine and she told me they had not. I spoke with one of my relatives as to how they may have been exposed to CV-19 virus and was reminded that the daughter who got to ER first worked at a local grocery store in administration. She didn't know if the grocery store closed and let shoppers know of an employee had been hospitalized due to CV-19. All she knew was the grocery wiped down disinfected the store. This family was all but wiped out in 1mth. The daughter who survived is at home but is very weak and neighbors are helping and reallying around her. The daughter and her husband have older children. The mother did tell one of the grand-daughters to take the shot before she died. Our emotions heart broken. Witnessing the horrible distruction of this virus is for real, but the way CV-19 is being handled is just as horrible. I did take the 2 shots, time will tell of side effects from the shot as well of patients who survived this CV-19.

 

[Amish Heart]

Sorry for your loss. Hardly anybody dies from this virus, and that family was terribly unlucky.
As far as your heading goes, "to vacc or not to vacc" it is my belief that it is up to every individual whether or not they want to be injected or not. I believe that governments around the world that are forcing people to do so are wrong. I believe it is wrong to not allow people to work, not allow people to receive medical care, not allow people to attend school, not allow people to shop, and not allow people to go about their lives.

 

[Proud Prepper]

That's very sad. All those people likely did not die from covid19, it was more likely medical malpractice.

 

[DrJenner]

@PatsyJo Very sorry for your loss
As someone who works in the ICU, I can tell you the reality you speak of is very true and we are seeing whole families wiped out (thinking there is definitely a genetic component). Most here have not experienced the loss or worked directly with acutely ill patients.
Today I went down to the ER to admit a patient who had coded 4 times prior to arriving to our ICU. 35 year old unvaccinated with COVID. She died before I could get her to the ICU. My whole service is unvaccinated COVID patients who are dying. It is so depressing.
My 48 year old friend also died. She was diagnosed 9/6. She left behind 2 kids. Her family is beyond devastated. She was an avid anti-vaxxer and I was so close to getting her to go get vaccinated until she watched some stupid you-tube video by a chiropractor posing as a doctor. These people need to be sued. I busted her out of a rural hospital for a bigger facility so they could take care of her underlying heart issues.
The whole time we were driving her to the hospital at 11pm, she kept telling me she should've gotten vaccinated. Her husband (also an anti-vaxxer) was also admitted with covid-19 and a superimposed bacterial pneumonia. He was discharged 7 days later. He just got his vaccine. People are convinced once it happens to them. Can't tell you how many beg for the vaccine before they are put on life support.
I'm truly sorry that this has happened to you. Wish you all the best.

 

[Proud Prepper]

@PatsyJo Very sorry for your loss
As someone who works in the ICU, I can tell you the reality you speak of is very true and we are seeing whole families wiped out (thinking there is definitely a genetic component). Most here have not experienced the loss or worked directly with acutely ill patients.
Today I went down to the ER to admit a patient who had coded 4 times prior to arriving to our ICU. 35 year old unvaccinated with COVID. She died before I could get her to the ICU. My whole service is unvaccinated COVID patients who are dying. It is so depressing.
My 48 year old friend also died. She was diagnosed 9/6. She left behind 2 kids. Her family is beyond devastated. She was an avid anti-vaxxer and I was so close to getting her to go get vaccinated until she watched some stupid you-tube video by a chiropractor posing as a doctor. These people need to be sued. I busted her out of a rural hospital for a bigger facility so they could take care of her underlying heart issues.
The whole time we were driving her to the hospital at 11pm, she kept telling me she should've gotten vaccinated. Her husband (also an anti-vaxxer) was also admitted with covid-19 and a superimposed bacterial pneumonia. He was discharged 7 days later. He just got his vaccine. People are convinced once it happens to them. Can't tell you how many beg for the vaccine before they are put on life support.
I'm truly sorry that this has happened to you. Wish you all the best.

Complete nonsense.

 

[Proud Prepper]

Did you use Remdesivir?

 

[DrJenner]

Did you use Remdesivir?

Mostly no. Most people are not candidates by the time they come to the ICU. Has not shown much benefit.

 

[Proud Prepper]

Mostly no. Most people are not candidates by the time they come to the ICU. Has not shown much benefit.

You should have researched it before giving it to anyone. It will end up putting a lot of people in prison. Fauci being at the head of the line.

 

[Helen Back]

@PatsyJo Very sorry for your loss
(thinking there is definitely a genetic component).

THIS! We have cracked DNA. I KNOW the military and private companies have been working on things that target specific genes. Anything you think is cutting edge tech by the military is ten years old to them. Brother, 27 years special ops, with at least four world headline making missions as part of a small "group", or team.

Honestly, it is what I know about the military's ability that scares me the most about trusting this vaccine. Then, how the "science" keeps changing, and Fauci keeps getting caught lying, contradictory "facts" by the CDC, WHO, doctors, and scientists....

Can;t see who in their right mind would take it, with a 99.5% survival rate. No sense to me.

 

[Ling31]

Yes, you are much smarter than me when it comes to you tube research. I will give you that.

You might try Bitchute or brand new tube No one seriously searches out only U tube for a balanced assessment

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

You should have researched it before giving it to anyone. It will end up putting a lot of people in prison. Fauci being at the head of the line.

Murdering people with Remdesivir needs to put many people at the end of a noose! Prison is too light a sentence for the manner and number they have killed.

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

Below is a great example of our government discussing their efforts to CHANGE humans with a VACCINE to make them “less religious”.

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

“Johns Hopkins physician criticizes ‘backwards’ vaccine mandates, pushes natural immunity

Dr. Marty Makary of Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine says blanket COVID-19 vaccine mandates are ruining people's lives, and says that natural immunity against the coronavirus is far more effective than vaccinated immunity.

What are the details?
Makary, who is editor-in-chief of MedPage Today, told The Daily Wire's "Morning Wire" on Thursday that studies have shown natural immunity against the coronavirus has shown to be 27 times more effective than vaccinated immunity.

“The data on natural immunity are now overwhelming," Makary insisted. “It turns out the hypothesis that our public health leaders had that vaccinated immunity is better and stronger than natural immunity was wrong. They got it backwards. And now we've got data from Israel showing that natural immunity is 27 times more effective than vaccinated immunity. And that supports 15 other studies."

 

[user 6208]

"Can't win an argument? Make personal attacks." -- Alinsky 101

Ivermectin has proven to be highly effective as well as HCQ. India, Japan, and much of Africa have proven this.

The so-called vaccine makes zero sense. Why use an untested mRNA vaccine during a pandemic instead of the tried-and-true method established over the past 50 years?

Only a quack ignores proven treatments in favor of an agenda.

 

[Ling31]

Below is a great example of our government discussing their efforts to CHANGE humans with a VACCINE to make them “less religious”.

A Fundamentalist is generally someone who believes in the historical history and authority of the bible . Thankfully no vaccine will change that

 

[DrHenley]

I utilize proven therapies in hospitalized patients.
We have seen tocilizumab and baricitinib work.
We have seen dexamethasone work.
We used ivermectin months ago, it didn't work
We used hydroxychloroquine in combination with zinc and azithromycin - made no difference and in some was harmful.
We use vitamin D/zinc/vitamin C/melatonin/pepcid - and it makes no difference.

DrJenner, I want to make sure we are not conflating treating patients with serious life threatening COVID infections requiring intensive care, and treating patients earlier in the process to prevent them from getting to that stage.

My understanding from what you have said previously is that your patients are already in the ICU, implying that they have had a cytokine storm which has likely physically damaged their lungs. I understand that at this point in the progression of the disease, successful treatment is unlikely with any drug or therapy. Now I know PP has an answer to that, but let's leave that particular treatment out of the discussion since in this country it's probably impossible to receive in a hospital anyhow.

Please clarify this point, because I think people don't understand the difference.

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

A Fundamentalist is generally someone who believes in the historical history and authority of the bible . Thankfully no vaccine will change that

Totally agree with you! It is the fact they have been experimenting with vaccines to attempt to do exactly that which is most concerning. God gave us freedom to choose. Evil, full of themselves humans are attempting to take that away.

 

[DrHenley]

The right side of your brain understands religion as a spiritual relationship, and religious principles as means of enhancing that relationship. The left side of your brain understands religion as a set of rules to be followed "religiously" with no concept of spirituality. Note that that "hot spot" in the scan is in the right side of the brain.
World religions fall anywhere on that spectrum. Christianity should be a balance between the two, but too often strays towards one extreme to the other. There are some people I've known that seemed to have no "right side brain" understanding of Christianity at all. It was all about obeying rules.
The Gospels record debates between Jesus and the religious leaders about this very thing. I think the one thing he said that sums it up best was "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath." The left side of your brain can't comprehend that.

 

[Ling31]

Totally agree with you! It is the fact they have been experimenting with vaccines to attempt to do exactly that which is most concerning. God gave us freedom to choose. Evil, full of themselves humans are attempting to take that away.

Georgia perhaps your right. After all the old world was destroyed for a specific reason. Some do say because of the ungodly angels who desired procreation with Gods holy creation. Thus Impregnating their ungodly liquor into the daughters of humanity. So who really knows what those Devils get up to down there at Dr Frankfurters castle or Dr Frankensteins lab Much is hidden and veiled in the pursuit of the elixir of immortality. Be that with eugenics, vaccines or trans humanism. There are those who have always sought to open Pandora’s holy grail.

 

[Dave2001]

honestly!! I dont trust a darn thing our government tells us!!!!!