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Silent Earth

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Just FYI.

Isis / Syrian rebels have homemade Sarin Nerve Gas


Russia today is reporting that UN investigators and or Syrian forces have seized viable SARIN munitions from the Islamic extremists known as ISIS that are operating in Iraq and Syria


Some sources say its stock that belonged to the Syrian regime whilst other sources report it is homemade munitions made from materials soured in Turkey.


It is also reported that up to 600 Muslims with British passports are fighting for ISIS and some have been reported on You Tube saying they hope to bring their Jihad and weapons back to the UK.


http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/07/08/370388/cylinders-found-by-syria-had-sarin/


http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/07/us-syria-crisis-chemicalweapons-idUSKBN0FC1U420140707


http://rt.com/news/171076-two-sarin-barrels-found-syria/


Multi ethnic cities are large towns are definitely losing their appeal to me as it is almost inevitable that the Jihadists will copy the Japanese extremists of the 80s in using Sarin against large public targets .


So bloody pleased I don’t live in a built up area.
 

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Repeat after me:
Saddam did not have any WMDs
Saddam did not have any WMDs
Saddam did not have any WMDs
Saddam did not have any WMDs
Saddam did not have any WMDs
Saddam did not have any WMDs
Saddam did not have any WMDs
Saddam did not have any WMDs
Saddam did not have any WMDs
Saddam did not have any WMDs
Saddam did not have any WMDs
Saddam did not have any WMDs

Now that you are sufficiently indoctrinated, you may be able to just gloss over this mentally:
http://www.nysun.com/foreign/iraqs-wmd-secreted-in-syria-sada-says/26514/
 

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Maybe, maybe not. Saddam had two whole months to move his WMDs. And yes, we know he had them, because WE were the ones who sold them to him! Just like he moved part of his air force and naval forces to Syria, so this really shouldn't be much of a surprise. And, since a lot of ISIS' upper echelon is likely former Iraqi commanders, fired after the war, they know just where it's at too!

But, having it and having the capability to effectively deploy it, are two different things.
 

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Kindly refrain from being so offensive , Those photos were apparently taken years before the invasion and Chlorine or cyanide gas was attributed to the cause of those kids demise, neither is a banned agent like Tabun or Sarin. ( which it is claimed the US still has 160 tons of binary munitions of it)

I saw the " Evidence" rolled out by the US govt to substantiate the WMD claim and it turned out to be two old truck mounted desalination plants.
 

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The US going into Iraq had NOTHING to do with WMD's. Saddam was trying to get OPEC permanently off the petrodollar, and that simply wasn't going to stand. But of course, that isn't a reason you can publicize, no more than we can publicize that Syria and the Ukraine are really about natural gas pipelines, not terrorism or revolution. ;) It isn't exactly difficult to see the real reasons behind such conflicts. War has ALWAYS been about money. Any other reason is simply food for the masses to rally behind it.
 

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Kindly refrain from being so offensive , Those photos were apparently taken years before the invasion and Chlorine or cyanide gas was attributed to the cause of those kids demise, neither is a banned agent like Tabun or Sarin.
August 1983: Haij Umran — Mustard, fewer than 100 Iranian/Kurdish casualties
October–November 1983: Panjwin — Mustard, 3,000 Iranian/Kurdish casualties
February–March 1984: Majnoon Island — Mustard, 2,500 Iranian casualties
March 1984: al-Basrah — Tabun, 50–100 Iranian casualties
March 1985: Hawizah Marsh — Mustard & Tabun, 3,000 Iranian casualties
February 1986: al-Faw — Mustard & Tabun, 8,000 to 10,000 Iranian casualties
December 1986: Um ar-Rasas — Mustard, 1,000s Iranian casualties
April 1987: al-Basrah — Mustard & Tabun, 5,000 Iranian casualties
October 1987: Sumar/Mehran — Mustard & nerve agent, 3,000 Iranian casualties
March 1988: Halabjah & Kurdish area — Mustard & nerve agent, 1,000s Kurdish/Iranian casualties
April 1988: al-Faw — Mustard & nerve agent, 1,000s Iranian casualties
May 1988: Fish Lake — Mustard & nerve agent, 100s or 1,000s Iranian casualties
June 1988: Majnoon Island — Mustard & nerve agent, 100s or 1,000s Iranian casualties
July 1988: South-central border — Mustard & nerve agent, 100s or 1,000s Iranian casualties
March 1991: an-Najaf - Karbala area — Nerve agent & CS, Shi’a casualties not known.
 

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The big furor is that the UN inspectors said yes, he HAD chemical weapons, but as of the time of the whole deal going down, 90% had been destroyed by them (the UN inspectors)...according to them of course. Yet, we do have former commanders plainly stating they moved stockpiles to Syria and Jordan, so there's that. In the end though, WMD's were simply an excuse for the masses, not the real impetus for action. To say it was a war for oil is a bit of a simplification... Kind of..but really, it was a war for keeping the US dollar strong.
 

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I'm not really interested in refighting the war in Iraq...but...
While there is not evidence beyond a reasonable doubt, there is a preponderance of evidence that Saddam moved his entire (well almost entire) chemical weapons facility to Syria. Not just chemical warheads with ready to use Sarin, VX etc. but the stockpile of precursor chemicals and all the equipment necessary to manufacture the chemical weapons.

Except of course for the chemical weapons facility IN IRAQ that the mainstream media reported (with a straight face even) that ISIS captured just north of Baghdad, complete with 2500 Sarin filled warheads (according to The Guardian!), 180 tons of sodium cyanide (precursor for Tabun), 2000 warheads contaminated with Mustard remnants, and 605 one ton containers contaminated with Mustard remnants. (we're going to need to repeat our indoctrination mantra at this point...:rolleyes:)
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/09/isis-seizes-chemical-weapons-plant-muthanna-iraq

But let's just suppose that the well known "fact" that Saddam did not have any WMDs was...shall we say...slightly incorrect. Suppose they really did have 56 sorties by commercial jumbo jet (stripped of the seats) of equipment and supplies to Syria. Georges Sada said that the Syrian regime gave the supplies to Al-Qaeda. Any complete nerve agents would have degraded by now, but what about the precursor chemicals?

As the MSM reported, there were tons of precursor chemicals at the chemical weapons facility seized by ISIS. I'm guessing that there were many, many times that much moved to Syria. Along with all the equipment needed to manufacture the final nerve agents. Unlike Sarin and Tabun, Sodium Cyanide has an indefinite shelf life, especially if stored in appropriate containers:
http://univertical.com/literature/specs/cyanide-solid/NaCN.spec.pdf
 

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