Roninsensei
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looking for a bridge to hide under... lol
A very interesting discussion. In the country I live in, the SHTF every day. Terrorism, bomb blasts, kidnappings, power outages, floods, corruption, nepotism, mis-governance, etc. Yet people live on. life goes on, people still get married and still have babies. I know a very nice gentleman who lost his 20 something son in the WTC on 9/11. He also still lives on. The point I want to make is this; we want to have come semblance of control in our lives.
Some politicians thousands of miles away decide to favor General Electric or General Motors, or General Foods and we get screwed. Some Banker in NewYork or London sells junk securities and our homes lose half their value. Some nutcase in North Korea wants to to prove he is tougher than his dad so the Japanese start glowing in the dark (again). Some failed artist in Germany decides to blame his country's woes on a small minority and the Holocaust happens.
In these days we see the US government bailing out the very same banks that caused a global collapse but the poor suckers who lost their homes, who baled them out?
You work, you struggle, you take on debt, you pay your bills, you do your civic duty, and what do you have to show for it? A collapsing manufacturing sector, a rust belt, falling real wages, crumbling infrastructure, crumbling social services. And the rich getting richer, the paper pushers being paid 20 times what the heavy lifters are paid. The politicos laughing all the way to the bank.
Its all about control. The average Jane or Joe wants a degree of freedom about where she or he lives, works or plays, what they want to feed their kids. I remember that some time ago a Nobel Prize was awarded to economists who proved that Choice was the key to economic prosperity.
That's what prepping is about. To give one a choice, to not be forced into making a decision by default.
Lets see what I have in my emergency kit: a Victorinox, duck tape, WD40, 2 Duracells ...Oh crap!
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Its all about control. The average Jane or Joe wants a degree of freedom about where she or he lives, works or plays, what they want to feed their kids. I remember that some time ago a Nobel Prize was awarded to economists who proved that Choice was the key to economic prosperity.
That's what prepping is about. To give one a choice, to not be forced into making a decision by default.
andRespectfully, I just don’t understand why so many people are obsessed with prepping. If something catastrophic were to actually happen, I’m not sure I would want to survive the aftermath. True survival is pure agony and a post-apocalyptic world would be ruthless and unrelenting. Hording water, food and weapons would not change this.
So, you would suggest that people do...nothing? I believe that storing water, food, and weapons will change the outcome.There have always been murderers, rapist, genocide and terrorism. The only difference is that we are now more informed.
Since Ive started 'prepping' Ive learned a lot of new things. I've learned how to make soap and to can food. I decided to go to college in the medical field and prepping was one of the main pushes for me. I also do more hiking, walking and am saving up for a good bike so I can ride the mountain trails around here and I want to do horseback riding and get an ATV (all terrain vehicle, aka four wheeler) and get out there and explore, as well as my goal to eventually be apart of the local Search and Rescue teams. Physical fitness is a very important aspect for anyone regardless of being a 'prepper' or not but thats what gets me out the door.The bottom line is If I lived every aspect of my life with the pessimism of a prepper , I would never try anything new and would avoid anything that involved any level of risk. I would wear a chain mail diving suit when swimming in ocean so I could be prepared for a shark attack, and I would construct a rubber room in my home so I would be protected from lighting strikes.
Its true that there are some out there who are quite dedicated to their lifestyle but I see nothing wrong with it. Now if you've been watching stuff like Doomsday Preppers on National Geographic, I suppose I might see where you got this idea but you should know that everyone is different. I have friends of both types. You did mention earlier about fear being the main motivator and also noted what we were each 'prepping for'. So I ask you, do you think that fear and concerns should be ignored and I should stick my head in the sand, or should I do something about it? Yes, I do have a lot of concerns about the way things have been progressing in our country, I happen to like history and I've seen a pattern emerge in every single nation/kingdom that has ever formed. Some still exist after massive turmoil and others didnt survive. Just because I fear something doesnt mean Im running around, waving my arms about and screaming my head off.It seems like an awful lot of preppers are playing out some sort or childhood fantasy. Just like with religious zealots, preppers seem to get off on the idea that they possess some sort of secret knowledge that the rest of the world is ignorant to..
I happen to be in a very good position where I work and I've been told on several occasions that I'm a valued employee. Does that mean I am secure for the rest of my life? Of course not. Just read about people who have dedicated 20+ years to their company only to get laid off with little or no notice. Its also a sense of false confidence for me to think that nothing 'big' could happen. I live right next to a fault line (where tectonic plates meet) that runs smack dab through Utah, so I also prep for earthquakes, which have a low probability but its still a possibility. As you co clearly stated, I cant predict the future, no one really can, but Im damned sure gonna be ready for it, whatever 'it' may be.I can’t predict the future and there is no sense in pretending like I can.To me, it’s all a waste of time.
To be honest, thats really quite naive. Im not going to leave my fate to the possibility of 'hoping' that something kills me off instantly so that I dont have to suffer or watch the suffering of others.Life is too short to imprison myself in my own mind and if the disasters do come, I can only hope the damage from the volcanic eruption, nuclear bomb or solar flare is great enough to kill me instantly.
were not saying you should prep for every waking minute of your spare time. nor should you prep for every possible scenario, just pick what disaster u think is more possible and prep for that! world war III is eminent we keep sticking our nose in other countries buisiness and they are getting fed up with it ! even our allies are not liking it too much, soon we will piss off the wrong country and it will be an all out war ! what follows war ? economy issues ,our resources wil be put towards the war effort and people here at home will feel the effects of it through poverty and starvation! this is something to prep for that is very possible. history has proven this time and time again.Respectfully, I just don’t understand why so many people are obsessed with prepping. If something catastrophic were to actually happen, I’m not sure I would want to survive the aftermath. True survival is pure agony and a post-apocalyptic world would be ruthless and unrelenting. Hording water, food and weapons would not change this. Furthermore, I don’t see the point in spending the productive years of my life worrying about what could happen. I would rather enjoy my life and if something horrible happens, then so be it. I can’t predict the future and there is no sense in pretending like I can.
Like most things, preparation is good in moderation. I prepare for a meeting at work, or an impending snow storm, but there is no sense in preparing for incidents of low probability. It’s not logical and I see it as an extremely negative and depressing way to exist. Although our world is flawed, some people exaggerate the moral decline of society and choose to view America as a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah. We are fortunate enough to be witnesses to an age of information that has changed the way we perceive the world. There have always been murderers, rapist, genocide and terrorism. The only difference is that we are now more informed. The advent of new information mediums combined with politically motivated 24hr news networks, has resulted in paranoid and skewed perspective of reality.
The bottom line is If I lived every aspect of my life with the pessimism of a prepper , I would never try anything new and would avoid anything that involved any level of risk. I would wear a chain mail diving suit when swimming in ocean so I could be prepared for a shark attack, and I would construct a rubber room in my home so I would be protected from lighting strikes. It seems like an awful lot of preppers are playing out some sort or childhood fantasy. Just like with religious zealots, preppers seem to get off on the idea that they possess some sort of secret knowledge that the rest of the world is ignorant to. To me, it’s all a waste of time. Life is too short to imprison myself in my own mind and if the disasters do come, I can only hope the damage from the volcanic eruption, nuclear bomb or solar flare is great enough to kill me instantly.
One more thing if u dont beleive in prepping and have no place for it then why waste your time creating an account and becoming a member of a website that is based on prepping and survival??? if some part of you isnt worried about it a little?were not saying you should prep for every waking minute of your spare time. nor should you prep for every possible scenario, just pick what disaster u think is more possible and prep for that! world war III is eminent we keep sticking our nose in other countries buisiness and they are getting fed up with it ! even our allies are not liking it too much, soon we will piss off the wrong country and it will be an all out war ! what follows war ? economy issues ,our resources wil be put towards the war effort and people here at home will feel the effects of it through poverty and starvation! this is something to prep for that is very possible. history has proven this time and time again.
He could be a troll, but sinOne more thing if u dont beleive in prepping and have no place for it then why waste your time creating an account and becoming a member of a website that is based on prepping and survival??? if some part of you isnt worried about it a little?
He could be a troll, but my guess is that, since he had to take the time to create and accountOne more thing if u dont beleive in prepping and have no place for it then why waste your time creating an account and becoming a member of a website that is based on prepping and survival??? if some part of you isnt worried about it a little?
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