Repression an example

[Silent Earth]

If my American friends are wondering what their future would be like if Socialists gained full control I would give you an example of the things you face over time.

No more CASH, Many socialists only want digital financial transactions so everything can be monitored or TAXED

No privately owned vehicles

Compulsory ID cards

Bans on ownership of Second homes

Gun controls ( that means BANS) Ammo , power, calibre restrictions, Strict licencing

Compulsory attendence courses for obligatory gun licences.

Bans on public protests ( Hong Kong Style)

Bans on storing Gasoline / Diesel at home

TVs recording your viewing activity

Banning encryption for civilians

Tracking compulsory in all cellular devices

Even suggestions about limiting by law meat and alcohol consumption

Compulsory innoculations

Banning private education

Legal limits on civilians storing food

Full regisration of all radio broadcasting equipment.

These are just a few examples of what you can look forward to, But if I may ask your indulgence a bit more I like to use this analogy.

In the US in MOST places there are no limitations or laws restricting the ownership and power of simple AIR powered guns ( MOST places)

Here is what other "" Free""" (sic) countries have for their air gun owners.

AUSTRIA - No restrictions in fpe but limit on caliber (FAC req for .25 and above)
AUSTRALIA- FAC required for everything and anything.
BELGIUM - No restrictions on rifles
BRAZIL - No restrictions
BULGARIA - No restrictions
CANADA - 500 fps limit without a PAL
CYPRUS - .177 only (No information on energy levels at this time)
CZECH REPUBLIC - 12 fpe (16 Joules)
DENMARK - No restrictions, but soon will have restrictions imposed due a change in the legislation.
ESTONIA - No limits in .177, .22 and larger cal FAC required. No hunting with air gun
FINLAND -There is no muzzle restrictions but anything over .25 calibers requires a license. No hunting with air rifles and all air rifles can be shot in your own garden so long as it is safe .
FRANCE - 20 Joules (15 fpe). Airgun hunting is banned except for rats.
GERMANY - 6 fpe (7.5 Joules)
GREECE - No power or Calibre restriction, Silencers and Scopes are banned by law. Hunting is not allowed.
HOLLAND - No restrictions - NO look a like's
HONG KONG - Max power of 2 Joules without an FAC
HUNGARY - 6 fpe (7.5 Joules)
ITALY - 6 fpe (7.5 Joules) must be over 18 to buy, over 10 to shoot it with presence of a parent; >6 fpe you need a f.a.c. and you've to declare the purchase to the police. NO Hunting.
JAPAN - Airguns firing metallic projectiles are considered firearms and require a license for specified use
LATVIA - 12 Joules
LITHUANIA - 7.5 Joules (NO hunting allowed)
LUXEMBOURG - FAC required for everything and anything.
MALTA - FAC required for everything and anything.
NEW ZEALAND - PCPs require Firearms License
NORTHERN IRELAND & EIRE - Airguns or CO2 guns that are in excess of one (1) Joule (0.737 ft/lbf) require to be held on an FAC.
NORWAY - No restrictions
PHILIPPINES - No restrictions but all airguns must be registered at the local police office. No license required (formality)
POLAND - 12.5 fpe (17 Joules) (NO hunting allowed) >17 Joules allowed if gun is registered with police (Formality)
PORTUGAL - .177 or .22 velocity of 1181 fps Hunting not allowed
ROMANIA - FAC needed for everything
RUSSIA - 6 fpe (7.5 Joules) (Unsure of this one)
SLOVAK REPUBLIC - 11 fpe (15 Joules)
SLOVENIA -4.5mm power limit 200m/s, for 5.5 it is 20 joule and below 200m/s and for 6.35 it is 20 joule. Hunting forbidden, silencers forbidden.
SOUTH AFRICA - Below .22 No restrictions on power. .22 and above 7.5J No hunting with airguns, but pest control allowed, no shooting in built up areas. (exceptions for Big Bore when having a hunting license - hunting on larger game)
SWITZERLAND - Over 18 to purchase. Illegal to hunt with an air rifle. No power limit .
SPAIN - 18 fpe (24.5 Joules)
SWEDEN - 7.5 fpe (10 Joules) also maximum velocity of 200m/s. The same for rifles and pistols. Semi or full auto airguns: 3 Joules
TURKEY - No restrictions
UNITED KINGDOM - 12 fpe (16 Joules)
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA - No restrictions (Except New Jersey, Delaware and Michigan)

 

[bigpaul]

The Labour party in the UK might call themselves socialists but it is run by a load of out and out commies.

 

[GaRp58]

GERMANY - 6 fpe (7.5 Joules)

In Germany you can purchase blank guns used for tear gas or shooting fireworks on New Years. But, it must be registered with a "mini" gun license if you want to carry it or transport in openly in your car. You cannot even shoot a mouse or rat with a BB or pellet gun in your own yard without the authorities showing up and filing charges against you for cruelty to animals...GP

 

[Silent Earth]

In Germany you can purchase blank guns used for tear gas or shooting fireworks on New Years. But, it must be registered with a "mini" gun license if you want to carry it or transport in openly in your car. You cannot even shoot a mouse or rat with a BB or pellet gun in your own yard without the authorities showing up and filing charges against you for cruelty to animals...GP

i rember an austrian chap in the 1930s who thought it was a good idea to disarm the public and only allow party members to be armed

 

[GaRp58]

i rember an austrian chap in the 1930s who thought it was a good idea to disarm the public and only allow party members to be armed

I remember studying history, reading of an Austrian chap who failed in Art school, was sexually abused by his Uncle, sold his ### in Vienna to survive till he could join the army in WW I, created chaos in another land, declared the Arians to be better (blond and blue-eyed), was black haired an brown-eyed , sent 12 old kids to fight the russians in Berlin and then committed the suicide of a coward. And now he is the hero of millions of non-arian followers.....GP

 

[bigpaul]

I don't believe that committed suicide stuff, that's the official line but I don't believe any of it.

 

[KateMTx]

This is why anonymous fungible cryptocurrencies are so important.

 

[GaRp58]

Some say so, others so. He did not fight to the end. Hundreds of Japanese fought up into the 1980s, before believing the war was over. Half a million Brits left Dunkirk, only to return later. Teenagers were spies in Holland, Belgium, France, Norway, Poland and other lands. They fought and died for their beliefs. Millions of soldiers died for dozens of wars, only to be survived by those cowards who started the war in the first place. The austrian did not. No matter where he is, here or hell. GP

 

[bigpaul]

anonymous fungible cryptocurrencies [/QUOTE]
that's a mouth full!! haven't a clue what it means.

 

[bigpaul]

Some say so, others so. He did not fight to the end. Hundreds of Japanese fought up into the 1980s, before believing the war was over. Half a million Brits left Dunkirk, only to return later. Teenagers were spies in Holland, Belgium, France, Norway, Poland and other lands. They fought and died for their beliefs. Millions of soldiers died for dozens of wars, only to be survived by those cowards who started the war in the first place. The austrian did not. No matter where he is, here or hell. GP

some say he escaped to South America and died an old man, even dug up a grave and proved it by DNA they say.

 

[KateMTx]

anonymous fungible cryptocurrencies

that's a mouth full!! haven't a clue what it means.[/QUOTE]
It's a way to complete untraceable transactions after the disappearance of cash. A lot of other problems can be avoided if there is still a way to do this because a black market is still possible.

 

[GaRp58]

Like I said, where ever he is. I've heard of the Yeti, Bigfoot and Sasquatch. Heard of smart blondes, honest politicians and virgin whores too. I would believe many things, but if I remember what Marvin Gay once sang: "Don't believe anything you hear, and only half of what you see" Got it?

 

[bigpaul]

out of my league, no cash and no card readers, that will mean its SHTF as far as most people are concerned.

 

[bigpaul]

Like I said, where ever he is. I've heard of the Yeti, Bigfoot and Sasquatch. Heard of smart blondes, honest politicians and virgin whores too. I would believe many things, but if I remember what Marvin Gay once sang: "Don't believe anything you hear, and only half of what you see" Got it?

I don't believe much of what I see OR hear these days.

 

[Silent Earth]

I remember studying history, reading of an Austrian chap who failed in Art school, was sexually abused by his Uncle, sold his ### in Vienna to survive till he could join the army in WW I, created chaos in another land, declared the Arians to be better (blond and blue-eyed), was black haired an brown-eyed , sent 12 old kids to fight the russians in Berlin and then committed the suicide of a coward. And now he is the hero of millions of non-arian followers.....GP

Ah so you know of Sepp Deitrich as well or was it Otto Skorensky, No Ernst Rohm......Only Joking

 

[GaRp58]

Yes sir, alcohol, ammo, tobacco, flour, sugar, salt, cooking oil, even toilette paper, that is the hard cash of the SHTF days. ###; GAS; OR GRASS, nobody rides for free...

 

[bigpaul]

Yes sir, alcohol, ammo, tobacco, flour, sugar, salt, cooking oil, even toilette paper, that is the hard cash of the SHTF days. ###; GAS; OR GRASS, nobody rides for free...

your talking about bartering now, that wont be safe post SHTF for a long time, a long long time, and i'm not just talking weeks or even months.

 

[GaRp58]

out of my league, no cash and no card readers, that will mean its SHTF as far as most people are concerned.

(DING) Ring the bell school is now in! no cash, no cards, (no shirt/no service) Get your BOB, the SHTF, load the BOV run to BOL and go past GO, collect $200,00 and go directly into hibernation from the MOBs of Zombies....

Just joking, GP

 

[bigpaul]

(DING) Ring the bell school is now in! no cash, no cards, (no shirt/no service) Get your BOB, the SHTF, load the BOV run to BOL and go past GO, collect $200,00 and go directly into hibernation from the MOBs of Zombies....

Just joking, GP

or like me, your already bugged out !! and its BP not GP.

 

[KateMTx]

Yes sir, alcohol, ammo, tobacco, flour, sugar, salt, cooking oil, even toilette paper, that is the hard cash of the SHTF days. ###; GAS; OR GRASS, nobody rides for free...

I'm not talking post-SHTF, I'm talking under an repressive regime with the resources of a modern society. Yes, after SHTF fiat currencies of any kind will be worthless at it will return to a barter system or gold/silver/other metals as currency.