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Arcticdude

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I know a lot of people with long hair, piercings and tatts and they all would work the straighter guys off the planet.
we would never work for such an opinionated bigot though.
You're entitled to hire who ever you want BP, same as me. The pierceings wasn't just my policy, it was the oil companies policy aginst any jewelry worn on the drilling pads. Long hair could also get tangled in rotating equipment. I didn't say anything about no tattoos, I have several myself, just no tatts above the collar. Bigoted? Thats plain BS.
 

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if its for safety reasons thats a different matter, I wouldnt have thought no tatts above the collar was a requirement on an oil rig, hardly collar and tie work. I worked on construction sites most of my working life and there were no such requirements.
in fact I have had many people state that they would rather employ someone who looks like me, long hair-full beard-tatts- but no piercings- than some "straight " guy because they were usually a pain in the bum and we always turned up on time and got the work done.
 

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I don't understand why we spend so much time and energy worrying and coddling the underacheavers, slackers and losers in our society.
I'm guessing they all got jobs providing Texas with Power,Heat, Water, Fuel and Food
 

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I do agree with being professional at work. In a perfect world everyone should be judged on their talents and not their looks. However we live in an imperfect world, and it is what it is. Everyone is judged by how the look, reguardless of it being fair. Clean yourself up, be respectful and work hard if you want to get ahead. I have a tattoo of an Indian girl on my arm. I’m not against personal choices and freedoms, just put things like that where they don’t show when your going for a job interview. I had long hair as a defiant teenager too. Eventually I learned that there is prejudice in the world and I grew up and got over it. If you really want long hair, which is your right, then try picking a career like a rock and roll band, not banking....
 

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Regarding dress code in the workplace: I owned and operated a private preschool and grade school before and after school program for 18 years. Our dress code: no facial piercings, except in the ears. No non natural colored hair, no mohawks or unusual styled hair, no open toed shoes, no exposed tattoos, business casual attire only, and no revealing clothing, meaning skirts and dresses need to be appropriate length, no cleavage showing. No jeans.
And I am not a bigot. But this is what was expected of our teaching staff. It was not a religious school, either, but it was a private one. I also did not employ men. It would of raised our insurance rates up to a crazy level. Our customers appreciated our dress code. We did not look "ghetto".
 

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Many schools in our area went to uniforms for the staff. I think that's retarded and non fashionable.
 

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And robots cost alot of money, and need people to maintain them.
The cheap alternatives are for people working fast food. The order people can and are being replaced by the order screen. The cashier can also be replaced when cash is no longer accepted. Kind of like the grocery store self checkout lines. Was irritated lately at Home Depot when the only lines open were self checkout. I was buying a chainsaw and it had an anti theft device on it that needed to be removed with their special gadget tool. So an employee had to come anyway. I just stepped back and played the old lady card and said that you might as well ring everything up for me.
I wonder how someone could shoplift a chainsaw. Don't really want to know, probably. A prison guard buddy told me I would be amazed and horrified at what people smuggle.
 

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If people want to look like a hoodlum then they need to prepared to be treated like one.
In the commercial diving industry tatoos are almost required. They make a body easier to ID if all they recover is a few chunks.
 

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Traitor Joe and the Leftists are pushing a "living" minimum wage of $15.00 - $20.00 per hour, depending one who is talking. Since minimum wage was always designed for entry level work and allows the employer to hire someone with no experience, education or training, benefiting all of society in the long run, why is there such as strident push on the Left right now? I live in California and, as will be apparent, I can explain why.

California has about 20 million illegals. In fact, Los Angeles County has about as many as the Left likes to cite for the whole country. So ask yourself, what do illegals do for employment in L.A. County? There is no longer much agricultural work, so what do this do? They go down to 7th and Alvarado in the dregs of Los Angeles and get a phony ID, Green Card, other small IDs. Then they go to work for employers who hire them but know all the time these IDs are phony and these people are illegals. Millions of people do this. The outcome is the illegals are working minimum wage, dead end jobs. They are dead end not because taking orders in McDonalds has no future, they are dead end because they are illegals and nobody wants to promote illegals to positions of importance within their companies. So the same people work year after year at those minimum wage jobs.

Now actually, those illegals are happy with those jobs. But the rich leftists in the Bay Area consider illegals as their pet people. So it is these rich Leftists who want a living wage for minimum wage work to sooth their consciences. This unspoken infection has spread to big blue cities all over the country. Seattle was actually the first to bump up minimum wage to something obscene. And it is coming to you.

Here is the funny thing, where your kids will start their working lives in rural areas, they will not get this living wage. The higher wage will be mandated by the Left for employers employing a certain number of employees. Generally speaking, large employers inhabit big blue cities. They know exactly what they are doing. They are targeting their pets, raising prices, causing inflation and then not allowing everyday white rural people to participate and mitigate those damages.

So this policy is not only harmful, it is targeted, racially, at some and not all. How do you feel about this?
How do I feel about the minimum wage being lifted. I think at the very least to 18 dollars for every adult. Not everyone is intellectually gifted to move up the food chain. Our minimum hourly rate in Australia is nearly 20 dollar. People have a right to earn a fair wage. Be that mowing lawns, restaurant work all the way to your Mac Donald’s if you like. I fail to see why they should be of less value to each of our county’s or nations well being. We may disagree on how economics work. But it’s well established that a well paid work force stimulates economic growth simply because people have more money to spend. Your problem lies not with a well over due wage increase but with illegal imagination and from those who seek to profit off cheap labour often below your minimum wage. And might I add the burdensome red tape and extra taxes that has plagued business for decades. In which President Trump did much to rectify. We saw how much America did prosper when he unshackled such burdens.. Sadly that dream was snatched from the American people along with the.free world in the twilight hours of a post election morning
 

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I got fed up of being judged by the way I looked and not on my skills and knowledge so eventually I went self employed. people who wanted me to do some work for them didnt care what I looked like and they liked my work so many of them became regular customers.
nobody should be able to tell others how to dress or how to look, thats discrimination.
funny that, it reminds me of the time I met someone for the first time who said if he hadnt know me before post SHTF he would have shot me on sight.
 
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In my driving school, I required each of the students to speak to my instructors as Mr. or Mrs./Ms. The level of respect needed in the trucks and buses for professional drivers was the idea. You deal with thousands of persons yearly and need to be a positive face in the forced competition of trucking and bussing. Nobody needs any negative advertisement from a poorly trained, paid or adversely acting employee on the daily markets today. I learned that if you found something good, (hotel, motel, vacation spot or eat-out place) you normally told 3-4 persons it was GOOD. But if you found something bad, then you would normally tell 8-10 persons of the negative experience...how people look is judged very much so by many in this world of pretty women magazines, fashion TV shows and the general publics view of what is considered ""normal""sadly. GP
 

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There is a certain look required for a specific job. My teaching staff needed to look professional, and it showed respect to the students and the parents that we cared about how we looked. Not so with some early childhood centers, and they had problems. A four year old at another center was trying to stab herself with sharp objects in her face to duplicate a teacher's facial piercings. Another center had children using markers all over themselves to copy teacher's tattoos. Another cut their own hair to imitate a teacher's mohawk. Being a good example is important.
But I do get what you say, BigPaul, about being judged because you look a certain way. Job wise, though, people need to look the job. Dress the job. I would not be digging ditches looking like an old granny Mennonite woman, dressed how I am. And I could dig a ditch.
My nephew pushes the limit on this. He is a good Christian man, in Oklahoma. But he does look like a biker, and was one for many years. Bald head, long scroungy beard with rubber bands in it, tats, biker boots, wears leather, openly carries his pistol. He job is putting in security systems in people's homes. It works.
 

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as far away from "civilisation" as i can get.
and if we cant or wont we make sure that other people stay the hell away from us in any way we can.
but its not about that, some of these attitudes I've read sound like some BS Sheeple citizen talking not a prepper or a survivalist, maybe its more of a cultural difference, it was Churchill I think that said Britain and USA were 2 countries divided by a common language, maybe he should have added "by culture too".
despite the forum name I fear we are getting too far away from our core discussions, its turning into more of a political forum than a prepping one. not why I joined.
 
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I used to ask of my staff, CLEAN CASUAL, if they had Tats we did not mind so long as they were not offensive, insulting or obscene, Long hair needed to by tied back to keep it out the machinery, and absolutely NO religious imagery or symbols on display except for Sikh turbans ( we had no sikhs anyway. Jewelry was limited to wedding rings ( covered if operating certain machines). We also all agreed no POLITICAL or RELIGIOUS discussion on the floor or the office.
 

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according to Marxism-Lenism (Socialism),
a person receives a salary according to the complexity of the work he does and does not depend on the profit of the Enterprise, which belongs to the Government.
All prices and quantities of products are fixed by the Plan.

According to Adam Smith (Capitalism), a person's salary depends on the profits of the Capitalist for whom he works and does not depend on the complexity of labor.
All prices and quantities of goods are set by supply / demand on the Free Market.

but.. there is no Free Market now. There is globalization, when prices are set by several people, monopolies, oligarchs.
 

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