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DITTO...I know crypto, stocks and bonds and the profits they can and do bring. I also know tooooo many people who have lost more than they could afford. I am happy with my bread and water with peace of mind than with Angus steaks and the worry of losing (again) much money...I was just not cut out to be a rich person, healthy and poor, but clean in mind and body and not jealous of those who have more or pitying those with less. There will always be richer and poorer, older and younger, sicker and healthier, more famous and more anonymus persons than I. What I can change in life, I do. What I cannot change, I do not waste my energy. I only need the wisdom to tell the difference and I get along...Gary
 
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I did not write this post to tell you that you all should buy this or that to get rich. Though I did say that I do believe that if there is a collapse of the financial system that my investments will make me wealthy.
No, wealth is not everything in life.
BUT, this is a site where people talk about preparing for events that we see either that might happen or are happening but the general public has not taken notice yet. And this is posted in the area of "economic collapse". I am telling you that we haven't even seen the beginning of the economic collapse yet and we are about to fall off the edge. I am also telling you that whatever you do have in dollars will be worthless. And unless you have nothing in your bank account then you should take your OVERVALUED dollars and spend them on SILVER. And if you have interest, in cryptos (regardless what you think of them) and I can point you in the direction of what the élite are setting up as a crypto to actually use in all banks around the world.
NOW, that said, If you don't have interest in hedging yourself against a financial collapse because of whatever reason you want to give, please go somewhere else on this forum and stop mucking up my post. If someone truly is interested in knowing more about what to do to prepare "financially" for a "economic" collapse then they will not want to read through a bunch of people that say that they don't care about finances in one way or another. I will gladly talk to you all about other things on other posts as I am not just a "financial" prepper.
 

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YOU are not TELLING anyone anything, ALL opinions are welcome on this forum. Unless you have a time machine YOUR opinion is no better than anyone elses. Your thread is very good but their are other opinions contrary to yours and they must be heard.
 

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I agree diversification of or from currency is prudent and wise, Gold and Silver certainly have a valid place, I also like Land, Medical supplies or skills, Fuel, Ammo, Grain, Heritage seeds, Solar Panels, Wind / Water Turbines. But there this great interest in metals like Gold, Silver and Platinum and I'm keen to learn more.
 

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I do own land and the means to defend it.

One should not (IMO) own a lot of crypto if one does not first have land, (or a place to bug out to with land), a means to defend it / firearms & ammo, and silver. Then crypto. That has been my progression. Honestly I can not see how it would make sense to buy more preps. Investing makes much more sense FOR ME in my current state of everything that I have at the moment.
I agree that getting your personal affairs in order before investing in anything is wise. If you have debt then getting out of it should be your first priority.
 

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I did not write this post to tell you that you all should buy this or that to get rich. Though I did say that I do believe that if there is a collapse of the financial system that my investments will make me wealthy.
No, wealth is not everything in life.
BUT, this is a site where people talk about preparing for events that we see either that might happen or are happening but the general public has not taken notice yet. And this is posted in the area of "economic collapse". I am telling you that we haven't even seen the beginning of the economic collapse yet and we are about to fall off the edge. I am also telling you that whatever you do have in dollars will be worthless. And unless you have nothing in your bank account then you should take your OVERVALUED dollars and spend them on SILVER. And if you have interest, in cryptos (regardless what you think of them) and I can point you in the direction of what the élite are setting up as a crypto to actually use in all banks around the world.
NOW, that said, If you don't have interest in hedging yourself against a financial collapse because of whatever reason you want to give, please go somewhere else on this forum and stop mucking up my post. If someone truly is interested in knowing more about what to do to prepare "financially" for a "economic" collapse then they will not want to read through a bunch of people that say that they don't care about finances in one way or another. I will gladly talk to you all about other things on other posts as I am not just a "financial" prepper.
I like you. I like everyone. I am also a historian. The biggest destruction of society ever, to the best of my memory was ancient Greece. No one can even translate linear Greek B. Some blame it on volcanoes. But from digs it seems the destruction of temples was deliberate. Another was the Mayan. The priesthood declared that the sun rise must be greeted by a recently cut out heart every day. So you farmers must send your sons and daughters, to be sacrificed or the sun will not rise. Finally some one said " No." I don't believe you some farmer said.
The sun still rose. Crypto will be worthless as soon as someone says "NO" .
 

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Did ANYBODY SEE Mr. Gates lately??? Did he have 68 tractor trailers loaded up and following him around with his "supposed" 165 billion dollars in CASH; GOLD AND SILVER ???? His company may be worth something, he may have a special VISA card which is unlimited, he may very well "own!" lots of land in the world...but post-SHTF he will only have that which he has STORED AND PREPPED to help him get thru...just like the rest of us...We will all just have to do with that which we have hoarded physically and on hand, not in a bunker in a foreign land or in electronically stored harddrives...Millions of Jewish persons lost house and home to Hitler, took only their gold, jewelry and clothes and tried (some succeded) to avoid the Holocaust, others did not. We will experience the same situation soon enough, or not...GP
 

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DITTO...I know crypto, stocks and bonds and the profits they can and do bring. I also know tooooo many people who have lost more than they could afford. I am happy with my bread and water with peace of mind than with Angus steaks and the worry of losing (again) much money...I was just not cut out to be a rich person, healthy and poor, but clean in mind and body and not jealous of those who have more or pitying those with less. There will always be richer and poorer, older and younger, sicker and healthier, more famous and more anonymus persons than I. What I can change in life, I do. What I cannot change, I do not waste my energy. I only need the wisdom to tell the difference and I get along...Gary
The thing that stood out to me in your post was the not being jealousy or envious of those that have more. I’ve never understood jealousy. If you see someone with a lot of money, toys or whatever and it seems like it’s something you really want then work your ### off and do what ever it takes to get it for yourself. Jealousy is a total waste of time. I also know one thing for a fact, money does not make you happy. There are loads of depressed rich people in the world. Health is the most important thing one can have in life, unfortunately not everyone is in control of that though. All this being said, having enough money to be able to cover the basics like food, shelter and your regular needs is really nice. So be wise with what you make so you can sleep easily at night knowing you will have plenty of food to eat.
 

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I'm sure Mr Gates has a bunker full of everything he needs for a long time. Our government does. They want continuity of government when things go bad. They are very well prepared.
With Bill Gates resources I can only imagine the backup plans he must have. It would be really interesting to see a documentary about it.
 

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It would, but he'd never do that. It would start bunker envy. Ha. People with money that think that they are important are prepared. That's people all over the world.
 

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I'm sure Mr Gates has a bunker full of everything he needs for a long time. Our government does. They want continuity of government when things go bad. They are very well prepared.
That is why I laugh out loud when I see comments like " The cops support the people, the NG supports the people" NO THEY BLOODY DONT the COPS represent the STATE and ESTABLISHMENT. The Establish does everything to ensure ity protects itself.
 

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Our police cars in America used to say, "To protect and to serve". They don't say that anymore. Now in the cities, it's....fill out a report online and maybe we'll get to it.
I don't have that problem where we live. We have a sheriff. You can call them or take care of it yourself.
 

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It would, but he'd never do that. It would start bunker envy. Ha. People with money that think that they are important are prepared. That's people all over the world.
I love You wise woman.
 

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I had a pig tractor ,( an old cotton trailer set on the ground with golf cart tires sticking out the back,) that was painted like a police cruiser but said down the side, to perfect and serve. Raised some fine pork in that thing. Although some people didn't like the joke , most officers I know thought it was hilarious.
 

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I own some crypto, Just to hold. I have never used any. The thing I don't like about it is I really don't hold anything. Unlike metals.
Same. We have friends who just sold 40 Bitcoin. It was a nice payday for them since they bought it when it under $4.
 

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Here it has still another contribution for you over the topic, here in Europe one sees ever more politicians with this emblem at the shirt collar, recently also one from Austria.

 

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