Secession fever spikes in five states as conservatives seek to escape blue rule

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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/feb/19/secession-fever-spikes-conservatives-seek-escape-b/
Secession fever spikes in five states as conservatives seek to escape blue rule

You’ve got Oregonians seeking to cascade into Idaho, Virginians who identify as West Virginians, Illinoians fighting to escape Chicago, Californians dreaming of starting a 51st state, and New Yorkers who think three states are better than one.

Separation fever is sweeping the nation as quixotic but tenacious bands of frustrated rural dwellers, suburbanites and conservatives seek to break free from states with legislatures increasingly controlled by liberal big cities and metropolitan strongholds.
 

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All republican controlled states need to establish a state constitutional mandate an Electoral College for state elections. One vote for each county. Then the big cities can't rule the rest of the state. As for the Blue controlled states, it maybe to little and too late. The Democrats are not going to let the red counties leave.
 
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Wouldn't it be nice if we could all work together and act like adults?

This secession business is exactly what countries like Iran, North Korea, and Russia want. Us divided against ourselves.
 

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Wouldn't it be nice if we could all work together and act like adults?

This secession business is exactly what countries like Iran, North Korea, and Russia want. Us divided against ourselves.
Well the Democrats never have and won't, so that's out.
 

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Wouldn't it be nice if we could all work together and act like adults?

This secession business is exactly what countries like Iran, North Korea, and Russia want. Us divided against ourselves.
Watching from overseas Kevin I say its the other way round, America is already bitterly divided and the Repblican old school American are the innocent victims of progressive socialists trying to destroy the very fabric of what defines America. Nearly all of the current problems affecting the cohesion within the Us are caused by the Socialists copying their European cousing by using MASS IMMIGRATION to change voter demographics, Repressive laws against guns, homesteaders, off gridders, home schoolers etc etc These large powerful SOCIALIST cities and states are using their excessive influence to change America when it does not need changing.

I refer you to the 1770 when the (UK) government started treating the colonies excessively badly and refusing to listen to the peoples, and again when the USG refused to listen to or respect the wishes of the Southern States, it appears lessons have NOT been learned.

Oh and I can assure you that Iran, North Korea and Russia would absolutely love to have a left socialist leaning United States to deal with.
 

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Watching from overseas Kevin I say its the other way round, America is already bitterly divided and the Repblican old school American are the innocent victims of progressive socialists trying to destroy the very fabric of what defines America. Nearly all of the current problems affecting the cohesion within the Us are caused by the Socialists copying their European cousing by using MASS IMMIGRATION to change voter demographics, Repressive laws against guns, homesteaders, off gridders, home schoolers etc etc These large powerful SOCIALIST cities and states are using their excessive influence to change America when it does not need changing.

I refer you to the 1770 when the (UK) government started treating the colonies excessively badly and refusing to listen to the peoples, and again when the USG refused to listen to or respect the wishes of the Southern States, it appears lessons have NOT been learned.

Oh and I can assure you that Iran, North Korea and Russia would absolutely love to have a left socialist leaning United States to deal with.
That's a fact!
 

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Mav , the concept is both sound and just but I can see one huge glaring great problem, for Greater Idaho to survive and thrive it MUST have a functioning SEA PORT. It cannot rely on transiting rights through unfriendly states.
 

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Mav , the concept is both sound and just but I can see one huge glaring great problem, for Greater Idaho to survive and thrive it MUST have a functioning SEA PORT. It cannot rely on transiting rights through unfriendly states.
It will remain part of the united states, it will be no different than the way Idaho has people and products moving through, east of Idaho are friendly like Montana, Wyoming
 

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Watching from overseas Kevin I say its the other way round, America is already bitterly divided and the Repblican old school American are the innocent victims of progressive socialists trying to destroy the very fabric of what defines America.

I refer you to the 1770 when the (UK) government started treating the colonies excessively badly and refusing to listen to the peoples, and again when the USG refused to listen to or respect the wishes of the Southern States, it appears lessons have NOT been learned.
This is why I question calling these liberals "Progressive"! They are regressive. They want to regress back to the days of colonial rule where you had "The ruling class (them)" making all the rules and then everyone else, who's only role was to do as told! Look at everything they do. The are regressive and NOT progressive.
 

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Mav , the concept is both sound and just but I can see one huge glaring great problem, for Greater Idaho to survive and thrive it MUST have a functioning SEA PORT. It cannot rely on transiting rights through unfriendly states.
Idaho already has a sea port; Lewiston. If the boundaries did get changed then there would be additional sea ports in Oregon and northern California.
 

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Idaho already has a sea port; Lewiston.
Yep, people forget that the seaport of New Orleans is not on the Gulf. Ships have to travel over 100 miles down the Mississippi River before they are actually "at sea." I've made that journey on a cruise ship. Seems like it takes forever to get to the Gulf.
 
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