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Lots of kids “in the system” have some problems, health and emotional and some been through abuse and hell. Some may never fully recover and should never be in the same room with weapons. Some are born with problems and got those problems from their parents.
With all that said, brand new healthy newborns have no problems getting adopted.

Translation: If they aren't perfect we don't want them. Less than perfect equals disposable.

Here's a concept I adopted a "less than perfect 2 year old with learning disabilities, developmental delays, speech impairments and a host of problems and loved him anyway. Just as if he were my own that I carried in my body I spent a lifetime with him in physical therapy, speech therapy, tutors etc. 40 years later he is a healthy middle aged, college educated extremely successful business owner with a beautiful home, wife and 2 kids ( 1 adopted also). His father and I worked our butt off to make that happen.

All these women who we are going to force to have babies they are unwise, unlucky or irresponsible enough to conceive without being able to financially or emotionally care for. Do you think they are all going to give birth to "brand new healthy newborns". Your words. The alcohol and drug addicted, the young and foolish, the illegal immigrants and the prostitutes.

That half a million kids will swell to double that and your tax dollars will take care of them all. And the backstreet butchers will get rich off of the poor mothers and they will die in record numbers from infection and complications. And the rich politicians will simply take their daughters out of the country to have it done safely.

That's definitely the answer.

Somewhere in the middle there has to be a better way.

Revamp family planning, focus on education on reproduction and prevention of pregnancy and disease and not gender choice. Programs to provide free contraceptives to the poor.

Maybe set up review boards in selected hospitals made up of physicians and psychologists and put the decision back in the hands of the medical profession on which cases are medically warranted. Kind of like transplant reviews. First trimester only and extreme cases. Clear guidelines and limitations. That would also eliminate the recreational repeat customers.
 
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Here's a concept I adopted a "less than perfect 2 year old with learning disabilities, developmental delays, speech impairments and a host of problems and loved him anyway. Just as if he were my own that I carried in my body I spent a lifetime with him in physical therapy, speech therapy, tutors etc. 40 years later he is a healthy middle aged, college educated extremely successful business owner with a beautiful home, wife and 2 kids ( 1 adopted also). His father and I worked our butt off to make that happen.

All these women who we are going to force to have babies they are unwise, unlucky or irresponsible enough to conceive without being able to financially or emotionally care for. Do you think they are all going to give birth to "brand new healthy newborns". Your words. The alcohol and drug addicted, the young and foolish, the illegal immigrants and the prostitutes.

That half a million kids will swell to double that and your tax dollars will take care of them all. And the backstreet butchers will get rich off of the poor mothers and they will die in record numbers from infection and complications. And the rich politicians will simply take their daughters out of the country to have it done safely.

That's definitely the answer.
“Translation: If they aren't perfect we don't want them. Less than perfect equals disposable”

Well if you’re just going to make sh!t up...
The point I made was not all these kids in foster care are what most people would call normal or healthy. Let’s not pretend they are. Some of them are in fact, to use your words, “less than perfect”, and the truth is we should not use them as the justification to kill the millions that are perfectly healthy.

“Here's a concept I adopted a "less than perfect 2 year old with learning disabilities, developmental delays, speech impairments and a host of problems and loved him anyway. Just as if he were my own that I carried in my body I spent a lifetime with him in physical therapy, speech therapy, tutors etc. 40 years later he is a healthy middle aged, college educated extremely successful business owner with a beautiful home, wife and 2 kids ( 1 adopted also). His father and I worked our butt off to make that happen.”
You did a good job.

“All these women who we are going to force to have babies they are unwise, unlucky or irresponsible enough to conceive without being able to financially or emotionally care for. Do you think they are all going to give birth to "brand new healthy newborns". Your words. The alcohol and drug addicted, the young and foolish, the illegal immigrants and the prostitutes.”

Again stop using the extreme to normalize mass infanticide. Going through the adoption classes I did learn that a pregnant mother using drugs and alcohol can cause developmental problems for the child but it is not the death sentence. There are critical stages during development that chemical dependency is very harmful but much of the time the impact can be minimal. Specifically smoking, alcohol or drugs used during times around heart or brain development can be devastating. Most of these women are not forced to have sex. Stop pretending they are. Most pregnancies result in healthy babies and there is demand for them. To be clear, just so everybody knows, the birth mothers are not paid for the kids. We got a brand new healthy newborn. It happens all the time. My wife has some health problems of her own and a healthy newborn was the best decision for us and I’m not ashamed of it. My wife cannot pick up an older 100lb wheelchair bound preteen. She physically cannot do it and I’m not quitting my job.

“That half a million kids will swell to double that and your tax dollars will take care of them all. And the backstreet butchers will get rich off of the poor mothers and they will die in record numbers from infection and complications. And the rich politicians will simply take their daughters out of the country to have it done safely.”
Btw, higher taxes is not a legit reason to kill people.
Politicians already take their daughters out of the country for privacy purposes anyway.
No need to go to the backstreet butcher. Everyone knows some woke corporations are going to fund abortion trains from red states to blue state. There will still be plenty of abortions in the US.
 
I assure you I am not making that up which is extremely truly sad and unfortunate.

Do not misunderstand I will commend you and your wife for your choices and in no way expect or imply shame, just the opposite actually. You made the best choice for you and your family. You gave a child a chance and that is more than many do. None of these posts are a direct swipe at you personally in any way!

As far as adoption classes I was more than likely your instructor FYI and I assure you not every abortion is of a healthy fetus. Just as there are many children needing adoption that are not in wheelchairs and to that extreme and I assure you I try to justify nothing but my own personal actions now or ever. I do simply believe that the lives of the mothers are just as important as the life of the unborn child. To group all these women as murderers is not accurate or fair. Many are just women with very few choices making hard life decisions.

I personally had a good friend that had to carry a baby to full term that was dead before the days of legal abortion knowing that baby would never live and give birth to that dead horribly deformed baby. She never had any more children and eventually killed herself. Women fought hard for the right to birth control at all. The days of forcing women to have babies should be over.

Education, prevention and alternatives could go a long way to alleviate abortions. Give these women resources to make better choices.

This whole system is broken and has been for decades. This subject is being used as a political ploy and to incite violence and dissention.

There are more effective ways of addressing this problem than legislatively. For many this is not about the lives of babies but about political power at the expense of the poor, irresponsible, some already victimized once and women in general in may cases. I have seen some horrible comments about women in general on this subject in the last week more than ever and the worst from other women and in the name of GOD.

It is so easy for people with resources to bash people without them to justify their own greed and quest for political power.

This is my own personal opinion on a subject of which I know a great deal about. I personally am going to strive to find solutions without moral judgement and not fall into the political trap that is being set.

There are no good solutions but simply the solution that everyone can live with without killing one another on the streets.
 
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There will always be states that allow women to murder their babies…for any reason or no reason. The Supreme Court hopefully is pushing this discussion back to the states, where it has always belonged. Our Constitution does not include a Right to murder infants. Yep, not even infants that have a disability…you know, like Dear Adolf championed and carried out.

Many women…a steady 50%, have more than one abortion. By allowing, nay, ENCOURAGING women to be irresponsible, there are even more abortions, aka murder of an innocent soul who deserves a chance at life as much as anyone reading this!

There certainly are EXCEPTIONS that must always be considered. A woman should not have to carry a child if it will put her life in danger. A young girl should not carry a child. Nor a woman who has been raped. BUT, these are NOT the issues are they? We have the Morning After Pill, so anyone raped or even had an “oopsie“ the night before can be RESPONSIBLE and go get one, easily!!!

I will gladly pay taxes for children to be taken care of. It beats paying taxes to kill babies, give lazy butts “free” stuff and a million other useless things my taxes go for.
 
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Couldn’t resist posting a picture of one of my grand babies.



“A professor in a college ethics class presented his students with a problem. He said, "A man has syphilis and his wife has tuberculosis. They have had four children: one has died, the other three have what is considered to be a terminal illness. The mother is pregnant. What do you recommend?" After a spirited discussion, the majority of the class voted that she should abort the child. "Fine," said the professor. "You've just killed Beethoven."”


One can never set a value on a life before the child has a chance to have one.
 
What really makes me sick is the savages in Afganstan and the republican party in the USA make war on woman, at the same time. No one has the right to force a woman to have sex. No one has the right to force a woman to have an un wanted child.

“Savages”???? Really??? Republicans are “savages” because they want to protect life instead of destroy it???
It’s savage to me to dismember a living human in the womb (sometimes right before birth) in the name of convenience. If you don’t want to have an “unwanted child”, then be mature enough and responsible enough to use at least one form of birth control, or better yet two. Or have a tubal or vasectomy and issue is solved permanently!!! And FACT: Abortion is premeditated murder.

And just WHO is forcing anyone to have sex???
 
If you don’t want to have an “unwanted child”, then be mature enough and responsible enough to use at least one form of birth control,

Not only that aspect is relevant in this discussion, but the FACT that if a woman is responsible and goes to the hospital or doctor early, she can take a Morning After Pill…and if she’s too late for that? She STILL has the chance to be responsible and go to a clinic to get a set of pills to stop the pregnancy. There really is no excuse to be killing babies with beating hearts in this day and age. Cheap, available everywhere Pregnancy Test tell you way early now!
 
And God said to the prophet; " I KNEW YOU BEFORE YOU WERE BORN AND STILL IN THE WOMB"
And Jesus said to the pharisees: "Not only refuse ye to enter into the kingdom of God, you stop those who would"
We shall all stand before God some day, even if we deny his existence, even if we do not believe in or on him.
"REVENGE IS MINE, I SHALL REPAY"
Another reason why those of us who do believe or have made the step further beyond "believing" to having so many miracles and wonders happen in their lives that they have gone further to the position of "KNOWING" and not just believing. We know we will not be here when the SHTF, TEOTWAWKI really happens, because our God: "does not want us to have to watch the punishments He has waiting for the unbelievers"
Their punishment will be so terrible that we, even knowing they have earned it, would have sympathy for them, which would be a terrible burden on our own hearts...live free, Gary
 
They try and justify it to soothe their guilt.

EXCUSES always sound good to those EXPRESSING THEM: They try and justify it to sooth their guilt....
No matter how bad a person acts, how many they hurt, maim and/or kill....they ALWAYS know RIGHT FROM WRONG, you are born a good person, but you learn to do bad things from bad company and not being punished early enough to understand the values of a human life...including your very own life...They KNOW it is wrong, but they do it any way and it eats into their souls and they hate themselves for doing it, but cover it up with big words, big demos, big lies and big excuses.
((like a crown of a king needs big jewels to be prettier...persons of little value: need big excuses to look better to themselves and the rest of the world...but they do not get more valuable like a crown,,,just more attention. Sad. Gary))
 
And just WHO is forcing anyone to have sex???

Rest assured the world can truly be an evil place and the children are our most vulnerable. Unborn and living all children are only as safe as those protecting them. Children and babies are exploited every single day all over the world (including the US) for pornography, prostitution, illegal adoption, organ production for the purpose of transplant, child brides etc. Consent is an illusion, rarely given freely and without coercion of some sort. The adaptation and use of technology has simply made it easier to hide.


The United States is number 4 in the top 5 countries with the highest rate of CHILD prostitution.

https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/top-five-countries-highest-rates-child-prostitution-1435448

According to Crimes Against Children research Centre (CCRC), the numbers of juvenile prostitutes within the United States range from 1,400 to 2.4 million, although most fall between 300,000 and 600,000.

16 children as young as 13 were rescued from the sex trade in a law enforcement operation that targeted suspected pimps who brought the victims to New Jersey for Super Bowl weekend, in February 2014.

"Prostituted children remain the orphans of America's justice system. They are either ignored or, when they do come in contact with law enforcement, harassed, arrested, and incarcerated while the adults who exploit them - the pimp and their customers - largely escape punishment,"

https://www.justice.gov/criminal-ceos/child-sex-trafficking

Child Victims of Prostitution

The term prostitution can delude or confuse one’s understanding of this form of child sexual exploitation. It is important to emphasize that the children involved are victims. Pimps and traffickers manipulate children by using physical, emotional, and psychological abuse to keep them trapped in a life of prostitution. It is not uncommon for traffickers to beat, rape, or torture their victims. Some traffickers also use drugs and alcohol to control them.


Domestic Sex Trafficking of Minors

The United States not only faces a problem of foreign victims trafficked into the country, but there is also a homegrown problem of American children being recruited and exploited for commercial sex. Under federal law, a child does not need to cross international or even state borders to be considered a victim of commercial sexual exploitation, and unfortunately, American children are falling victim to this crime within the United States.
Pimps and traffickers sexually exploit children through street prostitution, and in adult night clubs, illegal brothels, sex parties, motel rooms, hotel rooms, and other locations throughout the United States. Many recovered American victims are street children, a population of runaway or throwaway youth who often come from low income families, and may suffer from physical abuse, sexual abuse and family abandonment issues. This population is seen as an easy target by pimps because the children are generally vulnerable, without dependable guardians, and suffer from low self-esteem. Victims of the prostitution of children, however, come from all backgrounds in terms of class, race, and geography

Nearly 200 arrested in sexual exploitation of a single Florida teen

https://nypost.com/2020/11/18/nearly-200-arrested-in-florida-child-sex-trafficking-bust/
The girl was 13 and 14 when most of the alleged offenses occurred — but the abuse may have begun even before her 13th birthday, Elizabeth Bascom, one of the lead investigators, told The Tallahassee Democrat.

Child Pornography and Prostitutuon Back.ground and legal Ana!ysis
National Center for Missing & Exploited Children National Obscenity Enforcement Unit, U.S. Department of Justice

https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/Digitization/109927NCJRS.pdf


Child pornographers have little difficulty recruiting youngsters. Many victims are runaways who come to the city with little or no money. A U.S. Senate committee report estimated that between 700,000 to 1 million children run away from home each year.18 Adult exploiters can pick them up at bus stations, fast-food stands, and street corners and offer them money, gifts or drugs for sexual favors. Not all children involved in pornography are runaways, however. Many may in fact live apparently normal lives with their families. Frequently, they are children who have been abused at home or come from broken homes or live with parents who simply do not care about their activities. A Senate committee report suggested the following characteristics as typical of a sexually exploited boy: -between the ages of 8 and 17 -an underachiever in school or at home -usually without previous homosexual experience -comes from a home where the parents were absent, either physically or psychologically -has no strong moral or religious obligations -usually has no record of previous delinquency -suffers from poor sociological development19 Often the parents are unaware of what their children are doing, but there have been cases in which parents have sold their own children for use in child pornography or played some role in facilitating the involvement of their children in such acts. The effects of being a subject in child pornography can be devastating. Many children suffer physical harm as a result of the premature and inappropriate sexual demands placed on them.

Child Trafficking: Myth vs. Fact
Save The Children

https://www.savethechildren.org/us/charity-stories/child-trafficking-myths-vs-facts
Child trafficking affects every country in the world, including the United States. Children make up 27% of all human trafficking victims worldwide, and two out of every three identified child victims are girls


The United States is one of the most active sex trafficking countries in the world, where exploitation of trafficking victims occurs in cities, suburban and rural areas.
 
Well, when they get outside the Supreme Court and make threats on the justices, they may be surprised to find out the same technology used to track the 'mules' via phone geolocation/ID (used to document the 2000 Mules) will be used there, they might want to think that one out more carefully.

https://truthsocial.com/users/greggphillips/statuses/108368974345690908
 
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Security around Justice Kavanaugh's home was able to thwart an attempt on his life:



Gee, why aren’t all these ILLEGAL RIOTERS in jail??? If the situation were reversed and Patriots were outside of a SC Judges home, they would be arrested and stuck to rot in prison indefinitely…just like Jan 6th folks!
 

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