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I have a couple of funny stories about the German boars (not the ones that hung out in the bars but the ones in the woods) at Graf. I will tell one of them...

I took a short cut through the woods by myself to get to the little PX they had there. Going through the woods was off limits but I did it anyway because it was shorter. Well, going to the PX was fine but on the way back I heard this rustling in the bushes just a head off the path. So, I stopped not sure of what it was. Then out popped this HUGE HUGE I mean really HUGE boar. It was about 5 to 6 feet away from me.

Then all these little babies went running out of the woods across the path and into the woods on the other side. The monster boar just stayed there looking at me.

I had no weapon, no stick, there wasn't even a good sized tree that I could easily climb to get way if it charged. True story! I can't believe that my mind cleared and I remembered reading that animals can sense fear. SO I thought, "what is the opposite of fear?", I reasoned it was aggression. Again true story, I had this gargantuan beast right in front of me, so I didn't want to get any closer to it so I figured the only thing I could do to show aggression was to grunt and growl. So I did just that.

Well, this little show of aggression on my part really pissed the boar off. It started grunting and pawing the ground... I learned something about myself in that moment. I learned that no matter what fear I face in the future I wouldn't ever piss myself. I knew this because I was so scared at that moment, more so then than any time in my life ... and I would have been ok with myself if I did piss myself... but I didn't.

The boar moved about 6 inches closer (it was already close so that little difference was way too close). I then figured I needed to act. So I ever so slowly backed up... I back up to about 10 feet away and the boar then quickly bolted into the woods. I stood there for about 5 minutes ...

Well the moral of the story is....
I DIDN'T PISS MYSELF.
Oh hell I forgot about Boars in Graf! A couple of use built a trap with one of those trees that were there. the plan was the boar would walk on the camo net, trip the trap the tree would snap upright thus trapping the boar, then a couple of Specialists (E-4p ) would have one hell of a dinner...... Well......
It was so cold that night the tree froze in its bent position, and the boar had a great meal of MRE peanut butter, and MRE Cheese.....

Anyone spend time in Hoenfels?
 
My family and I (wife, teenage boy, and myself) are pretty new to prepping. I have bought about 90 lbs of different kinds of rice and about 5 gallons worth of different kinds of beans. My question is what is the rice to beans ratio that I should be shooting for?
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We don't have a lot of money so I wanted to get something now as a staple and then build on it with the finer things in life (canned chicken, canned beef, canned ... ). To head off people telling me I need more than rice and beans to eat... please understand that I know I need to add other things to our diet but that will come in time. If the SHTF, I want to be able to feed my family something and with the Obama economy the way it is... I have/want to start building my emergency supply with rice and beans.

So any ideas about the rice:beans ratio?
THANKS!
Well in my family I prefer beans. However, my wife is from Taipei, Taiwan so you can imagine what side she is leaning!
I will probably just maintain a 50/50 quantity.
My issue is preserving them for many years. How do I do this?
 
Well in my family I prefer beans. However, my wife is from Taipei, Taiwan so you can imagine what side she is leaning!
I will probably just maintain a 50/50 quantity.
My issue is preserving them for many years. How do I do this?
Your wife is Taiwanese? How did you meet her?

I almost married a girl from Hong Kong... damn good thing I didn't. She was feisty as hell.
 
Clydesdale, as long as you store the rice to where it is dry and you don't get critters, it stays good for years. Wild and brown rice doesn't keep, so I wouldn't fool with them for long term storage. I use 2 liter soda bottles to hold my rice in the kitchen, but for in the pantry and storage, it's taken out of the plastic bags and poured into 5 gallon buckets with the lids.

Beans will last for a good while too, but be aware that the older the bean the less tender it gets and needs more cooking time. You can pressure cook beans, but I don't fool with that because you can blow the lid off of the blessed thing if a bean husk is jammed in the exhaust hole thing. You could also pressure can your beans so all you have to do is open a jar and heat them up or eat them from the jar, saves you the cooking time when you don't have it to spare. Can't can rice though.
 
Beans beans the musical fruit, the more you eat the more you toot, the more you toot the better you feel, so eat beans with every meal!!! Can't say that for rice now can you?

As has been stated in this thread already I'd rather eat my neighbor and keep his dog than eat rice. ~shudders~ Long story but I can't stand rice. Beans work out really well though. There are many different varieties and they can always be planted for more beans. Rice on the other hand is bland, and takes a LOT of work to grow. And you have to have the knowledge to do it, which I don't think many people do, oh and LOTS of water.

My suggestion to help flesh this out, at least on a budget, would be dehydration. But the same things that you buy now, just a bit extra, slice and dice it then dehydrate it then put them into vacuum seal bags and they should keep for years. Even meats can be done this way. Makes it tough but can be eaten on the go, high in protein, you can add some flavor before you dehydrate, and you can always toss it into a stew or soup. Before I got my engineering degree this was how I prepped. Now that I actually got the bloody money I'm putting it to use and buying most of these things and storing them in my bunker.

At this very moment if I was to close the hatch of my bunker, I wouldn't have to open the bloody thing for at LEAST 10 years, and I planned for up to 6 people eating adult portions for that. It is EXPENSIVE as hell but what am I going to use the money for come Z Day? Tender? Toilet paper?
 
Don't be afraid of expiration dates on canned goods. Really, don't. I had a can of 15 year old ravioli for lunch the other day. It was fine and I'm still alive and kicking. I do dehydrate things, but I won't spend the coin on the 'survival food' that is being touted by some businesses. The only exception to that might be powdered milk, but I have dairy goats and I have that covered.

Oh, wait, the only expiration dates on canned goods I pay attention to are the ones on soda. Seriously, out of date by 2 days diet Coke is foul.
 
Your right Anorak, expiration dates aren't set in stone, just a date the retailer can't sell them anymore. I don't do cans simply because I can NEVER find a can opener!!!! I got 5 of them and can't find them lol.

The food I got is stuff that I use all the time for camping and like it pretty well. Like how it is packaged, like how it tastes, and like the variety. But I STILL have my old reliable dehydrator in my bunker!! :)
 
Park the car in the sun. Roll up the windows. Place the fruits or vegetables on oven racks, window screens (if you do this, place a single layer of cheesecloth over the screen first), or anything else that can be used to act as a rack and allow air to circulate. Place the trays in the vehicle so that the air will circulate well around them, close the vehicle up and check back every 4-6 hours until the fruits and veggies are dehydrated to where you want them. I will advise not to dehydrate onions, peppers, or other strong smelling foods like this. The stink will last awhile with those items.

The higher the temperature is outside, the faster things will dry out. I don't think I'd do meat like this.
 
I'd heard one of my aunt's talking about it years ago, so being the normal, noisy kid that I was, I had to try it. My cousin and I did slices of apples.

We've also strung up fruits and veg to dry behind the woodstove, that works too if you're using it often.
 
Yeah, we did the woodstove/heater thing when I was a kid. Hell, I spent more time in the woods and in the mountains than I ever did inside. Learned a lot from the old mountain men, about hunting and tracking and living off the land. Ah for the good ole days!
 
Is everyone storing their dry goods in 3.5-5 gallon buckets with gamma lids? I use more 3.5 gallon buckets, because I can get them for free from an old high school friend who works at a donut shop and that's what they get their frosting in. Since they were used for frosting it's much safer to just wash them out and use. I also pick up a couple here and there from Home Depot or Lowes at $3-$5 a bucket too.
 
I don't use the gamma lids, just the lids that come with the buckets. I haven't had any trouble with anything so far.
 
The standard lids aren't air tight!! That's why the gammas are sooo much better.. Throw in a hand warmer and seal the gamma and your good for years.
 
I don't use the gamma lids, just the lids that come with the buckets. I haven't had any trouble with anything so far.
I use the gamma lids, because they make the bucket air tight and it's easier to just unscrew the center part vs taking the lid on & off to add rice, beans, etc...... I found a place that I can get them at a pretty good price if order 6 or 7 at a time.
 
The standard lids aren't air tight!! That's why the gammas are sooo much better.. Throw in a hand warmer and seal the gamma and your good for years.

I'm just going to save some of the little silicone packets I get in my prescription bottles and toss them in there.
 
All that does is help with moister not o2 removal. the hand warmers use up the o2 also killing any critters that may be hiding in there..
 

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