I believe Samuel Clemens / Mark Twain nailed it "If voting made any difference, we wouldn't be allowed to do it"
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I believe Samuel Clemens / Mark Twain nailed it "If voting made any difference, we wouldn't be allowed to do it"
TexasFreedom
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Not yet. We have over 2 months. And Trump has an army of lawyers charging into battle. Grab some popcorn. It's not over.
Oddcaliber
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Possibly but feasible is to hire a high priced legal eagle and file a class action lawsuit against the Biden administration for election fraud! Way too much evidence to say it didn't happen.
Elections are run at the state level. You have to file separate lawsuits in each state.
Oddcaliber
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Great, that narrows the playing field down a bit.
As the President said, This is FAR from over!! They have been caught cheating in so many ways in every single state that matters. There is much evidence on our side.
Pray often and with a sincere heart for God to utterly destroy the Evil that has invaded our election system, deep state and government!!
Pray often and with a sincere heart for God to utterly destroy the Evil that has invaded our election system, deep state and government!!
Jayson
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Jayson
A True Doomsday Prepper
10 pounds of makeup, 10 gallons of Botox and 10 days of plastic surgery AND Nancy Pelosi still holds the Congressional Record for Fugliness.
Danil54grl
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Some members disappoint me, not that it will matter to them. I understand that. What I can't understand is why you are so willing to back down so soon? This election has been nothing but corrupt and a fraud from the get go. . . Mainstream is just backing the corruption. As a patriot, we need to stand up together if our voice is to be heard and back our elect President if that is who you truly believe in. We are trying to make the issues heard and if it is not, we may have to up the game which is something I really dont want to have to do. . . That would mean a civil war. I dont want to head that way, BUT I will if that means that I can help keep voting as a freedom of our nation. . . The Dems cheated in this election, and they will just continue from here on out if they get away with it scott free. BTW I truly believe they stole the election back in 2012 but it was more secretive, This time, did you notice how blatant they were?
Evil always ooozes through to the surface, no amount of make up can hide it.
I am with you100%!! Ultimately this isn’t about Trump or even biden. It is about the future of our election system. Will we allow them to corrupt it like a damn banana republic without a WAR in the streets if necessary? Or to have our Constitution ripped up in front of our eyes and do nothing?? Will that be our LEGACY for all eternity to our Grandchildren?? I say, over my dead body.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/robert-gore-its-perfectly-clearI stand by my statement. It’s obvious that Trump didn’t get “anything approaching an honest vote count.” One of the better crime scene investigations I’ve seen is “The 2020 Election: 性交ery Is Afoot,” by blogger Correia45, and I’ve posted others as well. As the litigation-filled days go by, we’re sure to find out more about the Democrats’ electoral fraud.
I won’t venture a guess as to whether such disclosure and litigation will ultimately lead to awarding Trump the election, but I have my doubts. The corruption runs too deep. If Biden wins, his camarilla will try to explain away the obvious with talk of glitches and anomalies, all of which mysteriously broke their way. They shouldn’t bother; they’ll be fooling no one and it just adds to the rage.
Good often emerges from even the worst situations. The good emerging from this one is that the veil is completely lifted, the election provides transcendent clarity. Many have already peaked under the veil. Those who refuse to grasp what is now appallingly obvious are too dense, deluded or corrupt to be of concern, and should be left to whatever ignominious ends fate has in store for them.
This election has made it made perfectly clear that we live in a corruptocracy. We can’t vote corruptocracy out any more than the people of the Soviet Union could have voted out communism (also a corruptocracy) and for the same reason: the vote itself is fundamentally corrupt. If Trump loses, it clearly discredits the notion embraced by the losers of every election: wait til next time. Next time is likely to be even more corrupt.
What’s clear to those of us who voted for Trump is if we want to get back what we cherish about America, we’re going to have to fight for it. Freedom is not free, and neither are individual rights, the rule of law, capitalism, peace, or the opportunity to build a better life.
Although I and others have suggested some sort of semi-amicable divorce for our bitterly divided country, that’s not going to happen because of the nature of the division. As I said in “The Corruptocracy,” the division is between the productive class and those it supports.
After this election there are undoubtedly millions of disgusted Trump supporters who would embrace a split in a heartbeat, but peaceful secession is precluded by the fundamental flaw at the core of every collectivist ideology: governments don’t produce, they steal. Leaches never desires separation. The blue needs the red; man cannot live on high tech, media, crony capitalism, and finance alone.
The battle is joined, collectivists versus producers. Tactically, there’s no dumber strategy than waging war against those who support you, but their pretensions notwithstanding, collectivists are never all that bright.
If Biden is declared the winner, Covid-19 restrictions are no longer necessary to hamstring the economy, discredit Trump, and justify mail-in voting fraud. The precedents have been set and a scary germ story can always be concocted when needed to frighten and subjugate those who are easily frightened and subjugated. If the collectivists have a brain in their collective head they’ll quickly lift all the restrictions to resuscitate economies so their collectivist governments will have something to steal. On any honest accounting for pension and medical liabilities, most of them are already bankrupt.
SLL reader SW Richmond recently commented:
The idea of individual rights protected by the government was the foundation of the American experiment. It was and has been imperfectly realized; it is an ideal and humanity rarely attains its ideals. Government is and always will be the antithesis of that still revolutionary ideal. The US government’s massive expansion has been at the cost of the people’s liberty and has destroyed most of their rights. That destruction has been ongoing since the beginning of the republic and Trump has done nothing to stop or reverse it. Philosophical insight and consistency are not among his virtues.
Nevertheless, a Biden administration will be worse, much worse. The Democrats now openly aspire to the collectivist ideal—the complete subjugation of the individual to the state. We’ve gotten a preview of coming attractions with coronavirus totalitarianism, which has obliterated the few freedoms and joys left to Americans. For the millions of Americans who voted for him, including me, Trump represented the last, best hope for what we consider the American way of life.
I won’t venture a guess as to whether such disclosure and litigation will ultimately lead to awarding Trump the election, but I have my doubts. The corruption runs too deep. If Biden wins, his camarilla will try to explain away the obvious with talk of glitches and anomalies, all of which mysteriously broke their way. They shouldn’t bother; they’ll be fooling no one and it just adds to the rage.
Good often emerges from even the worst situations. The good emerging from this one is that the veil is completely lifted, the election provides transcendent clarity. Many have already peaked under the veil. Those who refuse to grasp what is now appallingly obvious are too dense, deluded or corrupt to be of concern, and should be left to whatever ignominious ends fate has in store for them.
This election has made it made perfectly clear that we live in a corruptocracy. We can’t vote corruptocracy out any more than the people of the Soviet Union could have voted out communism (also a corruptocracy) and for the same reason: the vote itself is fundamentally corrupt. If Trump loses, it clearly discredits the notion embraced by the losers of every election: wait til next time. Next time is likely to be even more corrupt.
What’s clear to those of us who voted for Trump is if we want to get back what we cherish about America, we’re going to have to fight for it. Freedom is not free, and neither are individual rights, the rule of law, capitalism, peace, or the opportunity to build a better life.
Although I and others have suggested some sort of semi-amicable divorce for our bitterly divided country, that’s not going to happen because of the nature of the division. As I said in “The Corruptocracy,” the division is between the productive class and those it supports.
After this election there are undoubtedly millions of disgusted Trump supporters who would embrace a split in a heartbeat, but peaceful secession is precluded by the fundamental flaw at the core of every collectivist ideology: governments don’t produce, they steal. Leaches never desires separation. The blue needs the red; man cannot live on high tech, media, crony capitalism, and finance alone.
The battle is joined, collectivists versus producers. Tactically, there’s no dumber strategy than waging war against those who support you, but their pretensions notwithstanding, collectivists are never all that bright.
If Biden is declared the winner, Covid-19 restrictions are no longer necessary to hamstring the economy, discredit Trump, and justify mail-in voting fraud. The precedents have been set and a scary germ story can always be concocted when needed to frighten and subjugate those who are easily frightened and subjugated. If the collectivists have a brain in their collective head they’ll quickly lift all the restrictions to resuscitate economies so their collectivist governments will have something to steal. On any honest accounting for pension and medical liabilities, most of them are already bankrupt.
SLL reader SW Richmond recently commented:
This most definitely is not a drill, it is about the paramount issue that defines human history and philosophy: who decides the terms of an individual’s survival, the individual or those who rule by violence in the name of divine right, the collective, some other vicious justification, or naked force?if one looks at this map:
2016 Electoral Map by county. “Centralia” states are predominantly red.
...one can see the geographic answer to our problem: “Centralia”.
Centralia includes the entire South except Virginia, extends north and west to the mountain states, Midwest and Arizona. “Centralia” has copious access to ports and harbors, energy, food, internal transportation, manufacturing, fresh water, military assets including nukes. Centralia does not include VA, MD, PA, NY, etc, nor CA, OR, WA. MN, IL, WI and MI can choose. We may desire to include Jefferson. A not-so-great migration would ensue much like during the dust bowl. Voter registrations could be reviewed before migrants were accepted.
This is not a drill. It is about survival.
The idea of individual rights protected by the government was the foundation of the American experiment. It was and has been imperfectly realized; it is an ideal and humanity rarely attains its ideals. Government is and always will be the antithesis of that still revolutionary ideal. The US government’s massive expansion has been at the cost of the people’s liberty and has destroyed most of their rights. That destruction has been ongoing since the beginning of the republic and Trump has done nothing to stop or reverse it. Philosophical insight and consistency are not among his virtues.
Nevertheless, a Biden administration will be worse, much worse. The Democrats now openly aspire to the collectivist ideal—the complete subjugation of the individual to the state. We’ve gotten a preview of coming attractions with coronavirus totalitarianism, which has obliterated the few freedoms and joys left to Americans. For the millions of Americans who voted for him, including me, Trump represented the last, best hope for what we consider the American way of life.
What an outstanding read Dr Henley! This hit me hard...
”Those who refuse to grasp what is now appallingly obvious are too dense, deluded or corrupt to be of concern, and should be left to whatever ignominious ends fate has in store for them.”
and this...
“This most definitely is not a drill, it is about the paramount issue that defines human history and philosophy: who decides the terms of an individual’s survival, the individual or those who rule by violence in the name of divine right, the collective, some other vicious justification, or naked force?”
”Those who refuse to grasp what is now appallingly obvious are too dense, deluded or corrupt to be of concern, and should be left to whatever ignominious ends fate has in store for them.”
and this...
“This most definitely is not a drill, it is about the paramount issue that defines human history and philosophy: who decides the terms of an individual’s survival, the individual or those who rule by violence in the name of divine right, the collective, some other vicious justification, or naked force?”
Thank you for being the voice of reason. You're right, it's not the most popular stance to take, but it is the most level-headed and realistic.
Thank you, again.
Thank you, again.
Jayson
A True Doomsday Prepper
Senator Ted Cruz is ripping into the former Deputy Director of the FBI about their handling of the ‘Russian collusion’ question....
You're right. I'm sorry, let me clarify; Cherry-picked news taken out of context.
Is that better?
Is that better?
Jayson
A True Doomsday Prepper
Exclusive Video of former FBI Deputy Director McCabe testifying before a Congressional committee....
All just more words, and more words. Here's how this will play out; Trump will lose his bid to have the preliminary results overturned. The results will be finalized and he will again protest again he will sue. More conspiracy based, false information will fly around the Internet and Social media. Then, finally, in January of 2021 Biden will be inaugurated as President.
People on this forum and others like it will complain. They will post pages of "just" protest supported by shaky (at best) posts from other forums and news sites which support their claims. Confirmation bias and sounding-board replies will ensue, and that will occur for the next four years. The "civil war" will be one of pointless words and rambling posts on the Internet....nothing more.
And after those four years you'll get to actually DO one more thing.... vote. The economy might be worse, it might be better. Foreign relations may be more unstable, or far more stable. Immigration may be better, or worse....and on and on, but you'll still only get one vote for whichever candidate you prefer. I can say this, though; every thought about Biden that's been voiced on here is speculation based on twisted verbiage taken out of context or, worse still, manipulated to imply a false agenda of socialism. I don't agree with all of Biden's proposals, not by a long shot, but do I think he's a socialist, or communist? No, not at all.
You can either accept the current situation and progress your preps forward, or you can deny and protest. I suggest the former...it's better psychologically, and the results to accept are inevitable, regardless. One thing's for sure, though; there will be no actions against democrats nor liberals, regardless. There will be no 'civil war' and there doesn't need to be. Political and peaceful action within the Constitutional system that we have (including a well formed system of checks and balances) is all that's needed. For those who think now is the time for action, those people expect the actions to be performed by someone else. And for those who think a civil war will break out are only performing mental masturbation. So, try this for once; instead of propagating unfounded conspiracies and talking about we're at the point of no return or the point of non-negotiation; instead become part of the solution. Try negotiating, reasoning, understanding other points of view while sharing your own point of view and reasoning at the same time. Maybe that will help.
Peace, people.
People on this forum and others like it will complain. They will post pages of "just" protest supported by shaky (at best) posts from other forums and news sites which support their claims. Confirmation bias and sounding-board replies will ensue, and that will occur for the next four years. The "civil war" will be one of pointless words and rambling posts on the Internet....nothing more.
And after those four years you'll get to actually DO one more thing.... vote. The economy might be worse, it might be better. Foreign relations may be more unstable, or far more stable. Immigration may be better, or worse....and on and on, but you'll still only get one vote for whichever candidate you prefer. I can say this, though; every thought about Biden that's been voiced on here is speculation based on twisted verbiage taken out of context or, worse still, manipulated to imply a false agenda of socialism. I don't agree with all of Biden's proposals, not by a long shot, but do I think he's a socialist, or communist? No, not at all.
You can either accept the current situation and progress your preps forward, or you can deny and protest. I suggest the former...it's better psychologically, and the results to accept are inevitable, regardless. One thing's for sure, though; there will be no actions against democrats nor liberals, regardless. There will be no 'civil war' and there doesn't need to be. Political and peaceful action within the Constitutional system that we have (including a well formed system of checks and balances) is all that's needed. For those who think now is the time for action, those people expect the actions to be performed by someone else. And for those who think a civil war will break out are only performing mental masturbation. So, try this for once; instead of propagating unfounded conspiracies and talking about we're at the point of no return or the point of non-negotiation; instead become part of the solution. Try negotiating, reasoning, understanding other points of view while sharing your own point of view and reasoning at the same time. Maybe that will help.
Peace, people.
More unpopular news, but I feel the need to post it anyway. This is taken from the NBC News site, NOT MSNBC.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...ransition-n1247204/ncrd1247261#liveBlogHeader
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Watchdog group finds no evidence to support Trump's election fraud claims
An international group invited by the Trump administration to observe the presidential election found no evidence to support the president's claims of fraud, it said in a report.
The Organization of American States sent 28 observers from 13 countries to watch elections in several states, including Georgia and Michigan, at all stages including early voting and on Election Day, as well as vote tabulation, at the invitation of the U.S. Department of State.
But noting that Trump had claimed he has only lost in those states because of "fraud," the organization wrote: "The OAS observers deployed in the battleground states of Michigan and Georgia did not witness any of the aforementioned irregularities."
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...ransition-n1247204/ncrd1247261#liveBlogHeader
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Watchdog group finds no evidence to support Trump's election fraud claims
An international group invited by the Trump administration to observe the presidential election found no evidence to support the president's claims of fraud, it said in a report.
The Organization of American States sent 28 observers from 13 countries to watch elections in several states, including Georgia and Michigan, at all stages including early voting and on Election Day, as well as vote tabulation, at the invitation of the U.S. Department of State.
But noting that Trump had claimed he has only lost in those states because of "fraud," the organization wrote: "The OAS observers deployed in the battleground states of Michigan and Georgia did not witness any of the aforementioned irregularities."
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