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UrbanArchR
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lol Don't be Scared! Get Prepared! 
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Wow! Thanks for the pic! That really helps alot! I'm going to start working on this tomorrow and hope to complete our bags by the weekend! I like the little set/kit of tools! Where did you get those? A question about storing water....how do you keep water from going bad? I mean, if just left sitting doesnt it eventually go bad??[/quote]
The bag is a http://www.amazon.com/Maxpedition-E...&sr=8-1&keywords=maxpedition+pocket+organizer
tools just stuff that works for me i will break it down and send a pic. The water deal is not so hard, just rotate it.
The bag is a http://www.amazon.com/Maxpedition-E...&sr=8-1&keywords=maxpedition+pocket+organizer
tools just stuff that works for me i will break it down and send a pic. The water deal is not so hard, just rotate it.
G'day. I'd go with what your heart says is the right thing to do. I agree with you, God gave us a brain to use, so use it. I think putting some trust in God isn't a bad thing either. My Mrs isn't all that keen about prepping, but the more she reads/sees the news about what is going on in the world, the less hostile she is becoming to having that 'little bit extra'. Don't be afraid, fear stops us from thinking rationaly, and causes us to act irationally. We have a fairly well stocked pantry as is, but I have started my own small 'pantry' all over the house. I just buy a few cans of food extra each week. It will take a while to have a reasonable supply, but it's a start!! Anyway, you will find lots of info here.
alabaster
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My $.02- "Trust in the Lord and lean not into your own understanding...."
That stands for you AND your husband. Trusting your "Gut" is trusting in the sense that God gave you. If he is telling you that you should be thinking of getting prepared and getting a firearm..... Do it.
Living in IL, it's not all that surprising. I'm sure you have heard all the crime and homicides in ChiTown, because even I have and I live FAR away. There are things happening all around you, locally, state-wide, nationally, and world-wide that should give you the vibe that prepping is NOT a lack of faith in the Lord, but as it was said before, it is following what He is telling you. Trust in Him and know He doesn't want bad to come to his followers... We are His children, so this feeling isn't foreign to you at all.
Guns are a great place to "Start", too. You can defend against baddies, and get food with them. Having all the food and water in the world means nada if someone can just come and stab or shoot you for it because you're defenseless.
I don't mean to make this a preachy reply. I'm glad you came and that you decided to join the community. The entire premise of prepping is that we have decided to start making changes because we "Feel" something could happen. It's better to have your supplies and not need them than to need them and be empty handed. There's no going back from being in a desperate situation and being unprepared. You can always pass supplies on to those who do need them should you find out that you did it for naught. Though.... I find that hard to imagine since even if nothing sever happens, your piece of mind has to be worth something in and of itself! You deserve to be "At ease". If it comes from being more aware and prepared, then so be it. Nothing will eat you alive quicker than knowing you don't have the tools and skills to make it through anything. Having those skills will make you feel MUCH more at peace just knowing you're making an effort, IMO.
That stands for you AND your husband. Trusting your "Gut" is trusting in the sense that God gave you. If he is telling you that you should be thinking of getting prepared and getting a firearm..... Do it.
Living in IL, it's not all that surprising. I'm sure you have heard all the crime and homicides in ChiTown, because even I have and I live FAR away. There are things happening all around you, locally, state-wide, nationally, and world-wide that should give you the vibe that prepping is NOT a lack of faith in the Lord, but as it was said before, it is following what He is telling you. Trust in Him and know He doesn't want bad to come to his followers... We are His children, so this feeling isn't foreign to you at all.
Guns are a great place to "Start", too. You can defend against baddies, and get food with them. Having all the food and water in the world means nada if someone can just come and stab or shoot you for it because you're defenseless.
I don't mean to make this a preachy reply. I'm glad you came and that you decided to join the community. The entire premise of prepping is that we have decided to start making changes because we "Feel" something could happen. It's better to have your supplies and not need them than to need them and be empty handed. There's no going back from being in a desperate situation and being unprepared. You can always pass supplies on to those who do need them should you find out that you did it for naught. Though.... I find that hard to imagine since even if nothing sever happens, your piece of mind has to be worth something in and of itself! You deserve to be "At ease". If it comes from being more aware and prepared, then so be it. Nothing will eat you alive quicker than knowing you don't have the tools and skills to make it through anything. Having those skills will make you feel MUCH more at peace just knowing you're making an effort, IMO.
Clyde
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The bag is a http://www.amazon.com/Maxpedition-E-D-C-Pocket-Organizer-Black/dp/B002DAHO0Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1359162260&sr=8-1&keywords=maxpedition pocket organizer
tools just stuff that works for me i will break it down and send a pic. The water deal is not so hard, just rotate it.[/quote]
I am digging the Maxpedition bag I got! I am amazed at how much it stores!
Clyde
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BRAVO! BRAVO! Well said!!(standing up clapping hands)
alabaster
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Clydesdale, I dunno if you're being sarcastic or not! If so then straighten me out. If not..... I might run for office!LOL
Colt 1911
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Well said.
Well thank you all for your excellent advice! I have a red bag that I decided would be my emergency bag and I bought a small first aide kit that has bandades and such to put in it... I also bought a crank up radio/flashlight thing and many other numerous items that I seen...lol...such as emergency ponchos, emergency bag, tarp, rope, hand/toe/body warmers....a litestick/whistle thing, compass....small stove, canned fuel and well many items I cant remember now but I put them all in the red bag. Now I need to get another bag cuz it is filled! Lol...and there's still so much more I want to get....I seen a 5 gal collapseable water thing I want for sure....I put the bag down in my basement under the stairway...showing my son where it is in case of an emergency. I also went to a bait/gun store and applied for a FOID card...they said it will take approx 3 months to get but then I can come back and buy a gun. The owner let me try holding different ones and decided I should get a .38 when I get my card but then my son seen some online that are .22's and they were only $199....do you think that one of those would be ok? I really dont have much money of my own to spend on one but definitely want to have one for emergency use.
Mastercajun
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Looks like your husband doesn't really believe in God. If he did he would have read about what is comming in Matt:24. It is like Noah. God told him there was going to be a flood. Noah had to build the ark(God didn't build it for him) just like He will not prep for us. God is letting his people know that it is time to get ready. How is your son on prepping? I have a 13yr old daughter and she hepls me with prepping. She is also learning to shoot, so she can defend her self, if Im not here. Im willing to help you in any way I can. You can go to youtube and find out alot about prepping and there are alot of people here that are willing to help.
Mastercajun
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Read your post. You are on the right track. Anything you can think of that will help you survive is good. As for weapons: a 22 will work, but look into a 9mm. Ruger has some for a little over $250.00. If you get a 22 or 9mm also get hallow points for defense. I've been in Law Enforcement for most of my life. Also a .38 will be a revolver and only hold 6 rounds, where as a 9mm can hold up to 15 rounds. Seems like you will be own your own when TSHTF. Don't expect help from your husband if he is not willing to help you prep. I wish you all the luck in the world.
Mastercajun
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Good morning Kiddo. How are you doing this morning? Hope you are finding the help you need. If you have any questions, dont worry about asking. Someone out here will help you. We are all on your side. Although we are not next to you, we are still by your side. I know that it is scarry for you, but you have the guts to start prepping for you and your son. That makes you one hell of a woman. Keep it up and you will make it. Later Gator.
Mastercajun
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I saw one of the replys on your water. I found a better way than bleach. It is Pool Shock. You put two tsp per 5 gal. Pool Shock doesn't have all the bad additives that bleach has. Also try to keep your water out of the sunlight. Hope this helps. If you didn't live so far from La., we would make a place for you and your son when TSHTF. Good Luck.
JSL109
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Sorry just got back form cutting down some tree it wasn't that big it was 8ft if at took my like 3 hours to do got like 200 caned food for it so I'm happy right now I'm at 4 months food and 2 months water I think I need more
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Forget the .38..please. If you want a handgun with stopping power then go with a .357. Nice thing about a .357 is you can ALSO fire .38 ammo out of it just fine. This is nice for target practice as .38 ammo is cheaper. But before you buy a handgun I would grab a .22 first if it were me. You can buy a semi auto .22 for 110$. Marlin is the company I think that makes it. And if you shop around at pawn shops and other stores you can find some good deals on a nice little rifle.
JSL109
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In the pawn shop I go to I found a .22 revolver for 200$ and the .22 rifle was about 225$ but I'm still trying to get the money for them but he is right the .357 will do you just fine
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To the untrained the revolver is king. And the king caliber for self defense in the revolver class is .357.
I would definitely go with a semi automatic and not a revolver. The .357 I think would be a bit too much gun for a beginner who has not shot before. The recoil and heavy flash from a .357 revolver can cause flinching, and cause you to anticipate the recoil which would throw you way off target and make follow up shots more difficult. I recommend a .9mm which is more tame in the recoil department, less flash from the firing of the gun, and easier to use for a beginner. Definitely get hollow point ammo as this will increase the stopping power of the gun greatly. There are a lot of 9mm on the market under 500 brand new or you can get a used gun as well. If you go used get it checked out by a gunsmith to make sure everything is good with the weapon. Please ask me any questions you have about guns, handguns, shotguns, or rifles. I will do everything I can to help from a far since I am in NJ. I am a 15 year Army Veteran with 2 tours in Iraq and 9 deployments to the Middle East in the last 12 years. I am also an NRA Instructor for pistol, and Rifle. I was my most recent units armorer before I was Disability retired due to Combat Injuries I received during my 2nd tour. I was also on the
ing Team for 2 years. Please ask away and I will help however I can. Good luck and you will definitely find plenty of help on the site with any questions you may have.
alabaster
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I think we've touched on a couple good points, and ARMY127 has some solid advice. I've been a competitive shooter, gunsmith, and an instructor for nearly my entire adult life. The revo IS king for new shooters and lots of others, like those who don't like or want to practice but understand the firearm is a tool. They're good for weak(Literally) people if you fit the caliber to them. They're good for disabled shooters or people with arthritis.
357 MAGNUM..... Just hear that...... MAGNUM.... You can fire 38s out of it, but CLEAN YOUR CHAMBERS in the cylinder. If you shoot much you absolutely can get a ring of build-up that will cause pressure problems. This is NOT a myth.
22 or a 38 is better than nothing... Take that for what it's worth. My wife is 4'11. She is as small as the good Lord has made 'em, but just as willing and able because she understands that women aren't LESSER people, but DIFFERENT people. She has learned to use the differences in her body to master our guns from a shotgun to an AR-15 to a 1911 and of course our 9mm GLOCKs.. She is dedicated though. Even if you're not, you can get proficient. Dry-fire practice is a good idea that will help your skill without breaking the bank(So will practicing with an air gun!) Don't buy a gun because it's cheap. Don't buy a gun based solely on it's caliber, either. Find something that fits you, is within your abilities or what abilities you will have in the near future. Anyone can "Grow" into a Desert Eagle 5oAE, but it's not wise. Find a gun that is low maintenance, like a revolver, or some of the semi-autos that are easier to take down and clean. GLOCKs, 1911s, Browning Hi Powers are great guns, but those aren't all that's out there, of course. Ask the dealer to show you how to "Field strip" the gun, or look on youtube so you can know how to do it. Most revolvers don't need to be field stripped to clean unlike semi-sutos.
Lastly and perhaps most importantly, DON'T GIVE UP ON YOUR PARTNER. Understand that almost ALL of us have SO's that aren't into prepping at first. One of the members of a family starts it out and other members come along as they go. You may have to take point and be a leader if TSHTF, but you will prepare yourself for that, too. I can assure you, especially being that you are in IL, that your husband is an ASSET, not a LIABILITY. You and a son running from who knows what is not a really good idea. The more adults you can have in your party that you trust, the better. This man has been close to you for some time. Trust me on this, please. He may think it's unnecessary, but that's because it hasn't happened yet. If something bad comes along, he is going to want the best for your whole family. Only you would know otherwise, really. If you DO know otherwise, take action as soon as possible, because that IS a liability if someone would sacrifice you and your boy to the hounds. I doubt that's the case though or you wouldn't be as concerned as you are. This being the case, follow your heart. Keep prepping, save up and get yourself a gun and some ammo AND SOME TRAINING. Keep working and thinking of how you're going to take control when SHTF. Good luck and God bless your whole family.
357 MAGNUM..... Just hear that...... MAGNUM.... You can fire 38s out of it, but CLEAN YOUR CHAMBERS in the cylinder. If you shoot much you absolutely can get a ring of build-up that will cause pressure problems. This is NOT a myth.
22 or a 38 is better than nothing... Take that for what it's worth. My wife is 4'11. She is as small as the good Lord has made 'em, but just as willing and able because she understands that women aren't LESSER people, but DIFFERENT people. She has learned to use the differences in her body to master our guns from a shotgun to an AR-15 to a 1911 and of course our 9mm GLOCKs.. She is dedicated though. Even if you're not, you can get proficient. Dry-fire practice is a good idea that will help your skill without breaking the bank(So will practicing with an air gun!) Don't buy a gun because it's cheap. Don't buy a gun based solely on it's caliber, either. Find something that fits you, is within your abilities or what abilities you will have in the near future. Anyone can "Grow" into a Desert Eagle 5oAE, but it's not wise. Find a gun that is low maintenance, like a revolver, or some of the semi-autos that are easier to take down and clean. GLOCKs, 1911s, Browning Hi Powers are great guns, but those aren't all that's out there, of course. Ask the dealer to show you how to "Field strip" the gun, or look on youtube so you can know how to do it. Most revolvers don't need to be field stripped to clean unlike semi-sutos.
Lastly and perhaps most importantly, DON'T GIVE UP ON YOUR PARTNER. Understand that almost ALL of us have SO's that aren't into prepping at first. One of the members of a family starts it out and other members come along as they go. You may have to take point and be a leader if TSHTF, but you will prepare yourself for that, too. I can assure you, especially being that you are in IL, that your husband is an ASSET, not a LIABILITY. You and a son running from who knows what is not a really good idea. The more adults you can have in your party that you trust, the better. This man has been close to you for some time. Trust me on this, please. He may think it's unnecessary, but that's because it hasn't happened yet. If something bad comes along, he is going to want the best for your whole family. Only you would know otherwise, really. If you DO know otherwise, take action as soon as possible, because that IS a liability if someone would sacrifice you and your boy to the hounds. I doubt that's the case though or you wouldn't be as concerned as you are. This being the case, follow your heart. Keep prepping, save up and get yourself a gun and some ammo AND SOME TRAINING. Keep working and thinking of how you're going to take control when SHTF. Good luck and God bless your whole family.
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