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I read it’s a fairly common mishap in lots of European countries during construction projects. Kind of unnerving not knowing if 75 yr old explosives are still volatile. What I want to know is what kind of person willingly goes into a career of bomb disposal?
 
I guess a go bag and what is in it depends on where you live,I am in the sticks,so the idea of having to go away from home is not that much of an issue,about the only thing that I worry about is a forest fire,in that case I am on a camping trip and sleeping in the truck,which isn't all that bad
 
We find over 1000 artillery shells across the Benelux and france each year and dozens of aerial bombs each year. On the issue of Go bags raised by Sally we also keep the pocket guide to where all the local Travel Lodges and Premier Inns and Days Inns are located plus their 24 hour online call centers. You never know when you are going to get stranded away from home.
 
That's why I love Choice hotels, huge chain, with many affiliates. They aren't dives, but aren't resorts either. However, they are clean, affordable, everywhere, and an included breakfast. I also earn points, which often gets me free stays.

Because we work so far away, sometimes, it's nice to just stay overnight in the city we work in (vs. driving home, as long as someone can mess with the horses, usually a boarder). So, it's kind of nice. (and saves two hours of driving time).

We also go to somewhat local events, but instead of driving home, it's nice to grab a hotel, I can actually drink, then Uber back to the hotel and sleep it off, etc. If a costumed event (we like to cosplay at conventions, etc.), it's good to get ready in a nearby hotel and Uber there, vs. driving in costume or getting ready at the Con, etc.

In a way, our hotel memberships are a kind of a prep (as they also enable us to get rooms without reservations, on short notice, etc.). We stayed at a hotel after a few days of no power after Irma, just to have some AC to sleep in, lol.
 
Yup Choice Hotels, Quality Inns, Comfort Suites, Days Inns etc over your side of the pond. Premier Inns, Days Inns, Travel Lodge etc this side of the pond. Always worthwhile having their venue booklets in your vehicle.
 
about the only reason I can think of is if one of us had to go into hospital.
we can be 100 miles away from home at the weekend sometimes but there is no reason I can think of for us to have to spend a night away, it would only take us a couple of hours to drive home,unexploded bombs are a city or a large town thing not a country side thing, the cars are regularly serviced and any repairs are swiftly done, some form of natural event would only mean a change in direction, I don't use motorways except for very early mornings when there isn't much traffic, never in the middle of the day.
I keep a GHB permanently in my car.
 
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I read it’s a fairly common mishap in lots of European countries during construction projects. Kind of unnerving not knowing if 75 yr old explosives are still volatile. What I want to know is what kind of person willingly goes into a career of bomb disposal?

If the Richard Montgomery ever went up, it could change the shipping lanes off the south coast.....:eek:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Richard_Montgomery
 
i think the stuff in her is breaking up and leeching into the surrounding water.
 
I read it’s a fairly common mishap in lots of European countries during construction projects. Kind of unnerving not knowing if 75 yr old explosives are still volatile. What I want to know is what kind of person willingly goes into a career of bomb disposal?
Id love to!!!
 
If the Richard Montgomery ever went up, it could change the shipping lanes off the south coast.....:eek:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Richard_Montgomery
Lol thats so funny how they say how spontaneously it could go off. TNT is one of the most stable explosives known to man. Waterproof, safe to melt on stovetop, never going boom with a shifting tide... lol. And theres no way it could have corroded enough to expose the primaries either.... if its really tnt, the only risk is someone stealing it
 
Lol thats so funny how they say how spontaneously it could go off. TNT is one of the most stable explosives known to man. Waterproof, safe to melt on stovetop, never going boom with a shifting tide... lol. And theres no way it could have corroded enough to expose the primaries either.... if its really tnt, the only risk is someone stealing it

Depends if actual TNT or dynamite? both are used interchangeably from populist unfortunately, in our youth in Idaho around the mining camp that were shut down we used run across nitroglycerin based dynamite that already had crystals forming or were currently sweating at the time and other times we were relieved to see TNT on the outside box.
 
Lol thats so funny how they say how spontaneously it could go off. TNT is one of the most stable explosives known to man. Waterproof, safe to melt on stovetop, never going boom with a shifting tide... lol. And theres no way it could have corroded enough to expose the primaries either.... if its really tnt, the only risk is someone stealing it

not so funny when your realise there was also Sodium, and Magnesium on board for making flares plus its own defensive weapons ammo all with primers.
 
Lol thats so funny how they say how spontaneously it could go off. TNT is one of the most stable explosives known to man. Waterproof, safe to melt on stovetop, never going boom with a shifting tide... lol. And theres no way it could have corroded enough to expose the primaries either.... if its really tnt, the only risk is someone stealing it

The chances of detonation are remote, however of the 3 1/2 thousand tons of ordnance onboard 175 tons of armed cluster bombs situated in the deck above the TNT and oh yes, it's definitely TNT, would do the job. I'm more inclined to take the word of Naval and ordnance experts from both my country and the US than some random person on the internet.
 
That’s pretty interesting. I had never heard of her before. Really interesting that her masts are still visible. I wonder if the fish caught near her taste like gunpowder ;)!

Google the Goodwin Sands. It's an area off the Kent coast renowned for shipwrecks, they say it's the last resting place of more than a 1,000 ships.
 
Good points, didnt know of all the other goodies on board. That is definitely a recipe for boom! But by itself, tnt is very friendly. I feel pretty dumb not considering the other stuff on board... i get tunnel vision because im used to single compounds. Points to everyone!
 
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Depends if actual TNT or dynamite? both are used interchangeably from populist unfortunately, in our youth in Idaho around the mining camp that were shut down we used run across nitroglycerin based dynamite that already had crystals forming or were currently sweating at the time and other times we were relieved to see TNT on the outside box.
Oofta, that nitroglycerin , thats scary stuff when she ages! I used to make ethylene glycol dinitrate based dynamite because its lower melting temp and added stability. Had more headaches from the oil than the dets :) but wouldnt even consider playin around old NG!
 
Over here in Great Britain and Europe this is common occurance, just one reason to have a bag packed to tide you over at an hotel for at least a day or two.
There have in the past been findings in residential areas.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/19/europe/berlin-world-war-ii-bomb-intl/index.html
Sorry you guys over there have to deal with that. We have yet to see a war happen on our soils that explosives like that have been used and thank God for that! I don't care how stable one thinks it might be, I would never want one of my sweet little granddaughters to be playing around or even grown kids who are out digging in their backyards with something that has the potential to go 'BOOM' and I really don't think anyone else would either.
 
Sorry you guys over there have to deal with that. We have yet to see a war happen on our soils that explosives like that have been used and thank God for that! I don't care how stable one thinks it might be, I would never want one of my sweet little granddaughters to be playing around or even grown kids who are out digging in their backyards with something that has the potential to go 'BOOM' and I really don't think anyone else would either.
Only because in the past the technology wasn't such that a plane had enough fuel to reach the USA, these days they don't even need a plane, North Korea and probably Iran and a few others now have missiles that can reach all over the globe INCLUDING the USA(and Britain too).
 
If you are talking about the 1966 Palomares B-52 crash, yes, the one in the water was recovered after a 2 1/2 month search.

I thought the US had only lost ONE but the wording of your relpy concerned me and HELLFIRE what are you guys doing with your nukes :)


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8 Nuclear Weapons the U.S. Has Lost
BY Erik Sass
November 29, 2007
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During the Cold War, the United States military misplaced at least eight nuclear weapons permanently. These are the stories of what the Department of Defense calls "broken arrows"—America's stray nukes, with a combined explosive force 2,200 times the Hiroshima bomb.

STRAY #1: Into the Pacific
February 13, 1950. An American B-36 bomber en route from Alaska to Texas during a training exercise lost power in three engines and began losing altitude. To lighten the aircraft the crew jettisoned its cargo, a 30-kiloton Mark 4 (Fat Man) nuclear bomb, into the Pacific Ocean. The conventional explosives detonated on impact, producing a flash and a shockwave. The bomb's uranium components were lost and never recovered. According to the USAF, the plutonium core wasn't present.


STRAY #2 & 3: Into Thin Air
March 10, 1956. A B-47 carrying two nuclear weapon cores from MacDill Air Force Base in Florida to an overseas airbase disappeared during a scheduled air-to-air refueling over the Mediterranean Sea. After becoming lost in a thick cloud bank at 14,500 feet, the plane was never heard from again and its wreckage, including the nuclear cores, was never found. Although the weapon type remains undisclosed, Mark 15 thermonuclear bombs (commonly carried by B-47s) would have had a combined yield of 3.4 megatons.

STRAYS #4 & 5: Somewhere in a North Carolina Swamp
January 24, 1961. A B-52 carrying two 24-megaton nuclear bombs crashed while taking off from an airbase in Goldsboro, North Carolina. One of the weapons sank in swampy farmland, and its uranium core was never found despite intensive search efforts to a depth of 50 feet. To ensure no one else could recover the weapon, the USAF bought a permanent easement requiring government permission to dig on the land.

STRAY #6: The Incident in Japan
December 5, 1965. An A-4E Skyhawk attack aircraft carrying a 1-megaton thermonuclear weapon (hydrogen bomb) rolled off the deck of the U.S.S. Ticonderoga and fell into the Pacific Ocean. The plane and weapon sank in 16,000 feet of water and were never found. 15 years later the U.S. Navy finally admitted that the accident had taken place, claiming it happened 500 miles from land the in relative safety of the high seas. This turned out to be not true; it actually happened about 80 miles off Japan's Ryuku island chain, as the aircraft carrier was sailing to Yokosuka, Japan after a bombing mission over Vietnam.

These revelations caused a political uproar in Japan, which prohibits the United States from bringing nuclear weapons into its territory.

STRAYS #7 & 8: 250 kilotons of explosive power
Spring, 1968. While returning to home base in Norfolk, Virginia, the U.S.S. Scorpion, a nuclear attack submarine, mysteriously sank about 400 miles to the southwest of the Azores islands. In addition to the tragic loss of all 99 crewmembers, the Scorpion was carrying two unspecified nuclear weapons—either anti-submarine missiles or torpedoes that were tipped with nuclear warheads. These could yield up to 250 kilotons explosive power (depending which kind of weapon was used).

NOTE: WHAT ABOUT TYBEE?
The United States lost a warhead off of Tybee Island, Georgia, in 1958. According to the U.S. Air Force, it did not contain a plutonium core and therefore could not be considered a functional nuclear weapon, though that has been debated. Whether you believe the U.S. Air Force on this matter is a personal call.
 
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