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Røkkr-3

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USA is the best/worst example whennit comes to weapons and their regulations.

Not saying that guns should be banned - not at all, I love shooting guns and have registered almost a dozen firearms.

But this "freedom" to bear arms should not mean that every nutcase can buy and handle guns - equal to responsible gun owners. Where we live, you need to have a weapon permit (which allows you to own and shoot, but not carry around - for that you need another license). Before you get your permit, you need to follow a course, theoretical and practical. After that, you're required to take a psychological test. If you get your permit, you wil have to get a psychological re-evaluation every few years.

Neither does it scare us or hold us from owning guns - and there are many around. However, mass shooting incidents like unfortunately happen in USA, never happened here.

Even the gun related street violence is something hard to understand for Europeans. That problem is insane. So maybe, before "waging war" against legal gun owners rather/first wage an all out war against illegal arms.
 

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Where we live, you need to have a weapon permit (which allows you to own and shoot, but not carry around - for that you need another license). Before you get your permit, you need to follow a course, theoretical and practical. After that, you're required to take a psychological test. If you get your permit, you wil have to get a psychological re-evaluation every few years.
,that is not being free and undermines the 2nd amendment and it is also the first steps in disarming the people,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so no that will not happen here without a fight
 

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So free means that every mental sicko should have thes right to bear arms and shoot dozens and dozens of people?

I'm glad we have another feeling of freedom, which doesn't include pointless and avoidable killings. But just ask yourself, why other countries with gun regulations (but still a lot of gun owners) have way less homicides and mass shootings...

Even if you compare USA to Europe as a whole instead single European countries, the numbers don't favor USA. And no, we don't have less freedom...
 

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So free means that every mental sicko should have thes right to bear arms and shoot dozens and dozens of people?

I'm glad we have another feeling of freedom, which doesn't include pointless and avoidable killings. But just ask yourself, why other countries with gun regulations (but still a lot of gun owners) have way less homicides and mass shootings...

Even if you compare USA to Europe as a whole instead single European countries, the numbers don't favor USA. And no, we don't have less freedom...
you don't live here and so you have no dog in this fight,,,so piss off
 

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your little shit hole has had mass shootings,suicides and murder also,,,google it your system is no where near perfect ,,,and mass shootings and terrorist attacks are pretty much common place world wide,,,,so get off your soap box you don't have that much to crow about
 

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USA is the best/worst example whennit comes to weapons and their regulations.

Not saying that guns should be banned - not at all, I love shooting guns and have registered almost a dozen firearms.

But this "freedom" to bear arms should not mean that every nutcase can buy and handle guns - equal to responsible gun owners. Where we live, you need to have a weapon permit (which allows you to own and shoot, but not carry around - for that you need another license). Before you get your permit, you need to follow a course, theoretical and practical. After that, you're required to take a psychological test. If you get your permit, you wil have to get a psychological re-evaluation every few years.

Neither does it scare us or hold us from owning guns - and there are many around. However, mass shooting incidents like unfortunately happen in USA, never happened here.

Even the gun related street violence is something hard to understand for Europeans. That problem is insane. So maybe, before "waging war" against legal gun owners rather/first wage an all out war against illegal arms.
Thank God that we don't live in a repressive over controlled country like yours. And thank God that our Founders saw fit to give us a Constitution guaranteeing our Rights to own and carry firearms.
 

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So free means that every mental sicko should have thes right to bear arms and shoot dozens and dozens of people?

I'm glad we have another feeling of freedom, which doesn't include pointless and avoidable killings. But just ask yourself, why other countries with gun regulations (but still a lot of gun owners) have way less homicides and mass shootings...

Even if you compare USA to Europe as a whole instead single European countries, the numbers don't favor USA. And no, we don't have less freedom...
You really shouldn't comment about another countries laws that you obviously know nothing about. "Mental sickos" as you call them are NOT allowed to own firearms in the US. Do a little research on your own before you spout off the communist/socialist/Democrat talking points.
 

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just for you little man


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all of the above are more deadly that a gun,and no one is trying to ban them,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I think the numbers are a little lopsided but hey that is just my opinion,,,,,,,,,GUNS ARE JUST SO MUCH WORSE,,,,,,HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM I DO HOPE YOU ARE SHARP ENOUGH TO NOTE THE SARCASM HERE
 

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Røkkr-3, if you are still around after that...let me try to explain some things.

We have a political party that actually enables the criminals here. Anything we try to do to actually reduce real crime is labeled "racist" or "heartless" or "unconstitutional" (as if they ever actually READ the Constitution :rolleyes:)

Why do the Democrats want to pass laws that go after law abiding citizens and not the criminals or actual nut cases? Hint: It has nothing to do with crime and everything to do with control, not gun control but people control.

We have always had high levels of gun ownership in this country. The guns didn't make people go out and commit all these heinous crimes before, so why are they now? Have guns suddenly developed some wicked scheme?

It's a question many here are trying to find the answer to. We seem to have a very high correlation between anti-psychotic drugs and mass shootings. I don't think it's the whole answer but it does play a part. Violent games? Broken homes? They have a high correlation too. It seems to be a perfect storm of factors.

Sorry I don't have all the answers, but to blame the guns is like blaming airplanes for 9/11. Or blaming fertilizer for the Oklahoma City bombing.
 

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So free means that every mental sicko should have thes right to bear arms and shoot dozens and dozens of people?

I'm glad we have another feeling of freedom, which doesn't include pointless and avoidable killings. But just ask yourself, why other countries with gun regulations (but still a lot of gun owners) have way less homicides and mass shootings...

Even if you compare USA to Europe as a whole instead single European countries, the numbers don't favor USA. And no, we don't have less freedom...
It means everyone has these rights by default. If your judges deem you to be a nut case by the due process of the law, then your rights can be taken away or restricted. I dont understand why it's so hard for some to comprehend.​
 
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It means everyone has these rights by default. If your judges to be a nut case by the due process of the law, then your rights can be taken away or restricted. I dont understand why it's so hard for some to comprehend.

what the problem is,,,the LEFT wants to punish everyone for what the few do,,,,,,,,,far from fair
 

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It means everyone has these rights by default. If your judges to be a nut case by the due process of the law, then your rights can be taken away or restricted. I dont understand why it's so hard for some to comprehend.
Once someone has learned to accept servitude, it is impossible to explain to them what freedom actually means. The same mind set of "Guilty until prove innocent" vs. " Innocent until Proven Guilty". Servants to the Nanny state are not capable of understanding or to appreciate true freedom.
 

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I know one day the Left will at least in part win out meaning new laws with more restrictions on what we can own,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I just hope I don't live to see it
 
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