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Gazrok

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Also, saving seeds from cucumbers, tomatoes, okra can help you grow them again! no need to buy.
If you have heirloom seeds, that's true...but with hybrids, likely not. Buyer beware.
 

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thats why all my seeds are heirloom..and i been buying all of them from one site.but if i remember right.anorak says you can buy bagged beans at the grocery store and plant them..
 

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You can still plant hybrid seeds, just that your results MAY not be consistent. That's all.
 

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true..plus,buying heirloom allows a person to save seeds from their crops each year.and if a person saves the seeds from the best ones each time.their crops can improve over the years..
 

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yeah ... just sometimes different countries have different availability for seeds. like here, we don't have heirloom seeds or at least they're difficult to find.
 

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Heirloom seeds will save you money in he long run as these can be saved and replanted over the years. I have been doing this for a few years now with the produce I can. And as Jim said, yes you can plant the dried beans from the grocery store and if you have some potatoes that have gone to seed, you can also cut those up and let them dry for a few days and plant them.
 

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I planted some okra four or five years ago and have been using the seeds from each crop ever since. I've also got watermelon, cantelope, cucumber, tomatoe, bell peppers, squash and zuke seeds each year. Even if the heirloom seeds are double the price, it's much cheaper in the long run. I'm hoping that I can get some corn to actually grow one day, as I've planted at least four years and so far have eaten only about 6 ears. This past year it was almost ready when I got some bugs and rot in it. They say determination is the most important part of success, so I'll keep trying,
 

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good stuff brent, keep trying you'll get it.

i think another good idea is to grow a variety in case of crop failure. Just wondering, for fruit crops like tomatoes, bell peppers and okra, do we have to rotate them too?
 

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good stuff brent, keep trying you'll get it.

i think another good idea is to grow a variety in case of crop failure. Just wondering, for fruit crops like tomatoes, bell peppers and okra, do we have to rotate them too?
I don't think they pull too much from the soil like corn and others. From everything I'm learning, the single most important thing is getting lots of compost into the soil. I've definitely learned, plant more than you think you need, Mother Nature has a way of changing her mind sometimes, (like most women, lol), so if you have a bad harvest at least you get something. And if you have an over abundance then you can help out some others.
 

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I planted some okra four or five years ago and have been using the seeds from each crop ever since. I've also got watermelon, cantelope, cucumber, tomatoe, bell peppers, squash and zuke seeds each year. Even if the heirloom seeds are double the price, it's much cheaper in the long run. I'm hoping that I can get some corn to actually grow one day, as I've planted at least four years and so far have eaten only about 6 ears. This past year it was almost ready when I got some bugs and rot in it. They say determination is the most important part of success, so I'll keep trying,
Try spraying your crops with a tobacco tea. I take a can of Copenhagen, let it steep in a 5 gallon bucket of water in the sun for a few days and then strain. Then spray plants. It is a natural way to kill bugs and works pretty good, except the fact you have to do this every time it rains or you water too. Good luck! Last year was a weird year around here. I planted in late April and the corn grew to about 2 ft high then we had a freeze in late May. . . WTHeck! I live in TX for goodness sake! Our climate here has been changing over the last few years and they say we will be expecting a frost in April. I think they really need to rethink this Global Warming thing, but I am sure the Libs would blame it on the Global Warming somehow anyway. . .
 

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I don't think they pull too much from the soil like corn and others. From everything I'm learning, the single most important thing is getting lots of compost into the soil. I've definitely learned, plant more than you think you need, Mother Nature has a way of changing her mind sometimes, (like most women, lol), so if you have a bad harvest at least you get something. And if you have an over abundance then you can help out some others.
" (like most women, lol)", oh don't go there Bro. . . you may get an ear full! :)
 

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Try spraying your crops with a tobacco tea. I take a can of Copenhagen, let it steep in a 5 gallon bucket of water in the sun for a few days and then strain. Then spray plants. It is a natural way to kill bugs and works pretty good, except the fact you have to do this every time it rains or you water too. Good luck! Last year was a weird year around here. I planted in late April and the corn grew to about 2 ft high then we had a freeze in late May. . . WTHeck! I live in TX for goodness sake! Our climate here has been changing over the last few years and they say we will be expecting a frost in April. I think they really need to rethink this Global Warming thing, but I am sure the Libs would blame it on the Global Warming somehow anyway. . .
I thought the cover of the greenhouse would give me some protection from the bugs, but since its warmer, they seem to be camping out in there. I'll try the tobacco, soap, and anything else before I use chemicals. No doubt the weather is changing, I don't care about the politics behind it, but we are changing the weather on our home. That's what got me to go with the greenhouse, at least I can control some of the weather in there. I have enough pipes to build another 18'x21', but want to see how well this one does to work the bugs out of it!(pun intended).
 

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Yeah the water, dish soap, and a little vegetable oil mixed in a spray works pretty good too. I have a recipe if you need exact measurements. There is NO STOPPING bugs on your plants, even with a green house. Good Luck!!
 

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Yeah the water, dish soap, and a little vegetable oil mixed in a spray works pretty good too. I have a recipe if you need exact measurements. There is NO STOPPING bugs on your plants, even with a green house. Good Luck!!
I agree, it you can come to a cease fire with them and keep most of your veggies you've done ok. I discovered peach trees, best tasting thing in the world to pick a fresh juicy peach, but bugs and diseases know this too. If you don't spray them then you don't get peaches, period. I do mix soap in with the chemicals, and keep them to a minimum, but if you see organic peaches for sale, somebody probably lied! I really like apple trees as there pretty hardy, I really appreciate my low maintenance produce.
 

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