A possible greater threat than gun grabbing

[Dave2001]

The democrats are not coming for your guns they said... You're paranoid they said...

San Jose Will Force Gun Owners to Cover Costs of Gun Violence After Mass ing

San Jose Will Force Gun Owners to Cover Costs of Gun Violence After Mass ing (yahoo.com)


In a unanimous vote Tuesday night, San Jose’s city council approved a national first that will see gun owners being forced to compensate taxpayers for the spiraling costs of gun violence. According to the San Francisco Chronicle, gun owners in California’s third-largest city will be required to take out liability insurance for their firearms, and pay an annual tax that will help fund emergency responses to gun-related calls.

They OUT of their MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Arcticdude]

They OUT of their MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes. But Californians keep electing these people. This is why I don’t want to see ANY Californians moving to my state. They always bring this BS with them wherever they move to.

 

[Dave2001]

They sure NOT welcome in SC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[tmttactical]

I think the first question is, are there any gun owners even in San Jose?
If there are, have they put their homes on the market after this . . . law, passed?
How does the city even intend to enforce it, if there is no gun registry?
Or will they pass a required registry too?
How would they enforce that too?

IIRC, Cuomo tried something like that with his Un-SAFE law, written in such a way there was no way to actually disclose how many did, as it was estimated only 4-5% of the AR15 owners in the state complied.
I think New Zealand had the same problem.

In California, they do have a defacto gun Registry. They have their own NIC program and if you don't have a firearm listed in their registry, you can't buy ammo. San Jose can and will search the California NIC registry to find and tax any gun owners, located within their jurisdiction.

 

[EastenerWesterner]

I think there will be a lot of boating accidents in San Jose. As well a subsequent trips to neighboring states.

 

[Arcticdude]

California is getting the government that they asked for. Keep it in California.

 

[Danil54grl]

California is getting the government that they asked for. Keep it in California.

Not convinced that the majority in CA asked for this government. . . just like in NY.

 

[Arcticdude]

Not convinced that the majority in CA asked for this government. . . just like in NY.

Californians started down the road of socialism over 50 years ago. The voters elected, and reelected whoever promised them the most "free" stuff. The citizens could have elected conservative candidates, and at one time they did.
California is like many other states where they have a couple over populated areas that have enough voters to dictate what the entire state does. The only real solution is to split California in half, or to go with a state wide electoral college. Neither will happen. California is lost. The best we could hope for is it falls in to the ocean.

 

[Helen Back]

Now they are saying they will confiscate your guns if you do not pay. GUN CONFISCATION IF YOU DO NOT PAY THEIR UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS! WE ARE HERE FOLKS!!!! It's only a matter of time before this becomes state wide. CW IS COMING.

San Jose to tax gun owners, will confiscate firearms for noncompliance

San Jose to tax gun owners, will confiscate firearms for noncompliance (msn.com)


Gun owners in San Jose, California, will soon face a yearly tax and be required to carry additional insurance after their city council voted unanimously Tuesday evening to impose the new measures.

The forthcoming fee for gun ownership in the city has not yet been determined, but officials said that anyone found to be in noncompliance will have their weapons confiscated.

The city council's aim is to try to recoup the cost of responding to gun incidents such as shootings and deaths. According to the Pacific Council on Research and Evaluation, which studied the issue and sent a representative to testify before the panel, gun-related incidents cost the city roughly $63 million every year in the way of paying for police officers, medics and other expenses, The San Francisco Chronicle reported.

 

[BucketBack]

I think there will be a lot of boating accidents in San Jose. As well a subsequent trips to neighboring states.

My boat looks like it was sunk and wrecked, as it's being redone from sinking.

 

[Arcticdude]

Now California should pass a law to keep anyone from moving out of the state. That would help stop the spread of the insane California laws to other states.

 

[Proud Prepper]

Now they are saying they will confiscate your guns if you do not pay. GUN CONFISCATION IF YOU DO NOT PAY THEIR UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS! WE ARE HERE FOLKS!!!! It's only a matter of time before this becomes state wide. CW IS COMING.

San Jose to tax gun owners, will confiscate firearms for noncompliance

San Jose to tax gun owners, will confiscate firearms for noncompliance (msn.com)


Gun owners in San Jose, California, will soon face a yearly tax and be required to carry additional insurance after their city council voted unanimously Tuesday evening to impose the new measures.

The forthcoming fee for gun ownership in the city has not yet been determined, but officials said that anyone found to be in noncompliance will have their weapons confiscated.

The city council's aim is to try to recoup the cost of responding to gun incidents such as shootings and deaths. According to the Pacific Council on Research and Evaluation, which studied the issue and sent a representative to testify before the panel, gun-related incidents cost the city roughly $63 million every year in the way of paying for police officers, medics and other expenses, The San Francisco Chronicle reported.

Its time for Patriots in San Jose explain to the city officials what the second amendment protections mean, and be ready to demonstrate how they will defend there second amendment with the use of there 2nd amendment firearms if neccessary.

 

[Dracos]

Just imagined what would happen in Switzerland if i try to safe my properties with an gun... LMAO
Threat of a thief with a weapon - fines or jail. With an loaded weapon or not registeret one the fine would be higher or your time-out in jail a lot longer.
Blessing an thief in any case, not matter if it's with an weapon or you knock him out - fines or jail plus you're invitet to pay curing coasts and compensation.
Kill an thief and you will stay for a few years in the jail.

The only we can do is running away and calling the police. They will comes if the danger is over and they collected enough speeding tickets (less work and more money).

Do you have jury trials there? Where I live if a person protects his family or his property they are highly thought of. A jury of my peers? I would probably be elected sheriff. That is why we have such a low crime rate here. Most of us come from Europe. What has happened to you? Do you feel safer knowing that only criminals have guns?

 

[EastenerWesterner]

My boat looks like it was sunk and wrecked, as it's being redone from sinking.

My son got the boat and sold it To his cousin. My Ex got the weapons and probably doesn’t remember she had a CCW on one from 30 yrs ago.

My recent purchases have be throwaway ones for them to come confiscate.

ATF records were lost in a warehouse floor giving way accident.

 

[EastenerWesterner]

Now California should pass a law to keep anyone from moving out of the state. That would help stop the spread of the insane California laws to other states.

With the exception of most on this forum?

Or ones who moved to the Kommunist Republik for a woman and have to deal with this insanity, biting their tongue day in and day out. If something happens to my wife, I am out like a flash.

The Central Valley folks and most in the mountainous areas (SD, Northern, Sierra) agree with views here. I am one of the few in the Diablo Range.

 

[Mountain Dragon]

Do you have jury trials there? Where I live if a person protects his family or his property they are highly thought of. A jury of my peers? I would probably be elected sheriff. That is why we have such a low crime rate here. Most of us come from Europe. What has happened to you? Do you feel safer knowing that only criminals have guns?

Yes we do have jury trial here too. If i protect my family then all my friends and neighbours will be proud of me and accept it, this is sure. Well, proably the police officer will understand it. But by law they need to open an court proceedings because i used an weapon outside an shooting range. Same if i only used an knife or just an wooden peg. Some fees are normal, it may even can bring you some time in prison. Worse it goes if i hurt the intruder. It will you bring very high restrictions from higher payments and jail, plus you have to pay healing costs from the intruder maybe even compensation for damages.
The law says it's the police job to protect my family, home and myself from such things. Means in any case i have to call the police (if they are done with collecting speeding money the may are coming). By law only people with an gov license own a weapon. A friend of me works for our kind of ATF - he won't stop laughing as i asked him if it's seriously meant...
Of course we don't feel safer knowing only criminals having guns. It's the result of an "human protecting politcy" of the lefts here. If you would ask how it could happen - just spreaded enough panic and people (mostly city folks) agreed.
Inofficial we just hit and be quiet. Just don't kill the criminals because they can't run away anymore and the problem lies in your garden.