Weapons?

[Amy98]

So obviously with the law in the UK, we can't own guns, we also can't walk round with a knife more than 3 inches!

What weapons do you use and where do you get them from?

Many thanks.

 

[Silent Earth]

Compound bows, Recurve Bows, Pistol Crossbows, Sprays of RAID wasps nest destroyer, I get archery gear from places like Custom Built archery, Chiltern Archey, Quicks etc, some of the community have FACs, other SGCs
These are the nearest to you I think

BowSports Archery Centre Calibre Park, Laches Close, Four Ashes, Wolverhampton WV10 7DZ *Telephone (44) (0) 1902 791891 Fax (44) (0) 1902 791821

 

[Amy98]

Would you know where to buy knives by any chance?

 

[Silent Earth]

Heinnie Haynes ?, Amazon UK

 

[Silent Earth]

Tactical Flashlights are good PDW and legal as well, its a combination of an ultr high power LED flashlight in an alloy body with a serrated bezel

 

[Amy98]

Heinnie Haynes ?, Amazon UK

Heinne Haynes, I'd never even heard of them. Great website, thanks.

 

[Steve Doughty]

Hi I bought my pistol crossbow from ronniesunshines.com not a bad site

hope that helps, always worth a look, Steve

 

[Silent Earth]

I bought my full sized crossbow from Ronnie Sunshines, good value for money.

 

[lonewolf]

try: merlin archery or Richard Head longbows, I buy regularly from them. also Ebay has an archery section.

 

[DrHenley]

I thought lever action rifles were still legal in the U.K. There are some leverguns that would be good zombie weapons, such as pistol caliber carbines.

http://www.marlinriflesuk.co.uk/
http://www.guns.gb.com/contents/en-uk/
http://www.sportingsupplies.co.uk/contents/en-uk/d295.html

 

[Brent S]

Heinnie Haynes ?, Amazon UK

My heinnie is usually covered by Haynes. Sorry, couldn't help myself!

 

[Brent S]

I thought lever action rifles were still legal in the U.K. There are some leverguns that would be good zombie weapons, such as pistol caliber carbines.

http://www.marlinriflesuk.co.uk/
http://www.guns.gb.com/contents/en-uk/
http://www.sportingsupplies.co.uk/contents/en-uk/d295.html

I watched a show when they were destroying all the collected guns over there. They were trashing some of the most beautiful antiques you've ever seen. Lots of them were museum pieces, didn't matter! Was really disturbing to see all that history crushed.

 

[Brent S]

So obviously with the law in the UK, we can't own guns, we also can't walk round with a knife more than 3 inches!

What weapons do you use and where do you get them from?

Many thanks.

Do you have any bears over there? Bear spray will deter an attacker from a pretty good distance.

 

[lonewolf]

nope, no bears, no cougars, no wolves, no mountain lions, no alligators, no major snakes, worst thing we've got is probably wild boar.

 

[Brent S]

nope, no bears, no cougars, no wolves, no mountain lions, no alligators, no major snakes, worst thing we've got is probably wild boar.

What about boar spray? (Kidding). I don't know what kind of laws you have to deal with, if you can't carry a knife over 3 inches, how do they feel about archery and mace and such?

 

[Dani]

I watched a show when they were destroying all the collected guns over there. They were trashing some of the most beautiful antiques you've ever seen. Lots of them were museum pieces, didn't matter! Was really disturbing to see all that history crushed.

that would break ones heart for sure!

 

[lonewolf]

hunting with a bow and arrow is ILLEGAL in the UK, which is stupid for a country that relied on archers in the past for its defence but that's how it is.

 

[Gazrok]

Contrary to popular belief, you can get guns in the UK, just more rules that make it difficult, but not impossible. In the UK, if a SHTF event happens, those with them will be at a decidedly major advantage.

 

[lonewolf]

I have a great dislike to getting my name down on a gun register, I consider it bad OPSEC, for this reason I use other types of weapon.

 

[Gazrok]

That's why you buy from private owners, and pay cash.

 

[lonewolf]

finding a private owner with one for sale is another thing in this country. and buying ammo still needs a gun certificate .

 

[Gazrok]

True, arming up in England is only slightly harder than in NYC, lol. I'm in the south US, so it's pretty much a given here.

 

[lonewolf]

oh there are ways of arming up that don't (so far) need a certificate or registration in this country, I like to keep "below the radar" and not get onto official lists.

 

[DrHenley]

finding a private owner with one for sale is another thing in this country. and buying ammo still needs a gun certificate .

Free availability of ammunition is far from assured here in the US. We've had shortages of many calibers ever since Obama was re-elected. We expect the Obama administration to try some backdoor gun control schemes like ammunition registration. Many US shooters are getting into reloading as a means to insure that we have ammunition. I am set up for reloading every centerfire rifle and pistol caliber I shoot, and have been for years. When the ammunition disappeared from the shelves last year I was mostly unaffected.

I see that Midway has a UK Site:
http://www.midwayuk.com/
So reloading must be legal, but I don't see powder and primers listed.

 

[ViolentJ]

The main problem with registering a gun (depending on the disaster i.e. break down of rule of law) those preppers with guns are going to be sitting on a list of high priority targets (I would assume as thats who i would go after if i was in there shoes).

The laws in the Uk make it pretty much impossible to carry any useful knife (yet carry a 12 inch screwdriver is perfectly legal). Then there is the even more broad stretching "offensive" weapons laws which essentially mean that if any item is deemed by the police as offensive (whether it be a walking stick, essentially anything) it can land you in trouble... so this makes defence EDC pretty much impossible.

 

[Gazrok]

Luckily, we don't have to register them here. And, if you buy them from a private owner, no paper trail. You simply have them.

 

[lonewolf]

still leaves a problem of getting ammo for which we also have to show a licence, no licence-no ammo, I think the same applies for reloading equipment too-not that I want to go that route.

 

[myhomemycastle]

a gun license is roughly £500 plus u need a secure vault. but when the shtf raid farms they all have guns and i know from personal knowledge not all are locked away. pistols used for killing animals are legel not v good range but close up can cause serious damage . im just going to invest in some good quality knives and a cross bow but thats just me.

 

[DrHenley]

when the shtf raid farms they all have guns and i know from personal knowledge not all are locked away. pistols used for killing animals are legel not v good range but close up can cause serious damage

How difficult/expensive is it to buy a farm in the UK now?

 

[Silent Earth]

Very easy, all you need is money or a mortgage, there are plenty for sale especially the smaller ones on higher ground ( trad hill sheep farmers) Location decides price the nearer the rich south east the more expensive it gets. Move to parts of Wales, the North or Scotland and land is fairly affordable.

If you have land be it forest or farm its fairly easy to get a gun licence for a Shotgun or 22 for vermin control, if you have deer you can expect no reasonable issues in getting hunting calibres.

Our laws though stupidly applied are primarily aimed at stopping youngsters in cities from carrying big bloody knives, once you get out to the rural areas common sense usually applies
EG the three lads along the road from me who love river fishing inevitably have 6 inch blades on their belts when they set of for the Fishing lake. As for gun ownership there is a clay pigeon club bout half a mile from me and they shoot 6 days a week from 9 til 8 and there is a waiting list for membership.

As for constraints on ammo in the UK, shall we say reloading is very popular and leave it at that

As for knife carry , common sense rules again, if I have to go into the city I wear a Byrd Tern UK legal 3 inch none locking folder, but even so I would not go into a school or pub with it on show. Back home in the boonies I wear a 3 1/2 inch blade Tec Hunter Light lock knife or my Cold Steel Voyager Tanto and I have worn a blade EDC along with multi tool and flashlight for decades.

Recently on a dark and very rainy evening we came across a police car at the side of the road, the officers were trying to free a foal that was totally tangled up with nylon twine stuck in a hedge. We stopped and the cops asked if anyone had a knife or something to cut the twine and fencing away. All three of us produced pocket knives and multi tools and helped free the critter. The local cops simply did not care nor had any interest in us carrying blades.

If we had produced those same tools in central London or Times Sq NYC we would have been arrested. If we had pulled them in Tottenham or Detroit we may have got tazored ( or shot)