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Someone has to defend the constitution. However, until patriots get a means of communication unable to be monitored by the globalists, I don't see a real movement.

Someone needs to be skilled in strategy. Online organization would never work. The globalist own the internet.
 
Someone has to defend the constitution. However, until patriots get a means of communication unable to be monitored by the globalists, I don't see a real movement.

Someone needs to be skilled in strategy. Online organization would never work. The globalist own the internet.

Not if every Patriot let's it be known publicly that they stand against these enemies and will stop them by whatever means is necessary.
 
Not if every Patriot let's it be known publicly that they stand against these enemies and will stop them by whatever means is necessary.
Maybe. January 6th didn't give me much confidence, though. Even patriots need a leader, I think. The majority of people are too timid or complacent to rock the boat even when it's headed for a crash.

I'm not saying people shouldn't be loud and uncompromising, just that it would be best if we didn't always show our hand to the other side.
 
We have been fighting this civil war for 6 years now.
It isn’t guns and bullets.
It’s the disinformation.
Those who control the media, control the narrative.
If it doesn’t stop soon, it will become Guns and Bullets.
 
We have been fighting this civil war for 6 years now.
It isn’t guns and bullets.
It’s the disinformation.
Those who control the media, control the narrative.
If it doesn’t stop soon, it will become Guns and Bullets.

That is probably what they are hoping for. Imagine the ratings!

Its been a lot longer than 6 years though. This started back when all of the reporters were giving glowing reviews of Communist Russia and the rich hippy children, sons and daughters of Congresscritters, were going to India to "study" with the Communist gurus.
 
That is probably what they are hoping for. Imagine the ratings!

Its been a lot longer than 6 years though. This started back when all of the reporters were giving glowing reviews of Communist Russia and the rich hippy children were going to India to "study" with the Communist gurus.
I was only reflecting back to how devastated the Kommunist Republik was over Trump winning. Literally liberals crying in the street.
And everything they were predicting under Trump is happening now.
 
Maybe. January 6th didn't give me much confidence, though. Even patriots need a leader, I think. The majority of people are too timid or complacent to rock the boat even when it's headed for a crash.

I'm not saying people shouldn't be loud and uncompromising, just that it would be best if we didn't always show our hand to the other side.
I do t mean show up where they hold all the cards. I mean declare them enemies with your free speech.
 
From May '21

I have been saying for at least two years, the beginning of the Civil War will be businesses identifying with a party, and shoppers going to their party's businesses. Then attacks on those bussineses (started by the radical left). There will be alot more Kyle Rittenhouses, and anger when the left goes after only the right protecting themselves. This will lead to people having to leave cities with which they are not politically aligned. Those 55 counties that voted blue, will really understand what they have done then. The pompous democrats keep saying the left pays for the red states. Well, good luck getting food MFers.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mar...p&cvid=234376b5628f4743affd451f7843b1d3&ei=68
 
Thought I would copy the important part of the above link…in case some of you don’t read it.

“FIRST ON FOX: Oklahoma is taking action Wednesday to ban 13 major financial institutions from doing business in the state after a review determined the banks engaged in energy boycotts.

Oklahoma State Treasurer Todd Russ is planning to announce the sweeping measure Wednesday morning which represents one of the most aggressive actions any state has taken against banks pursuing so called environmental, social and governance (ESG) initiatives. The move ultimately blocks the banks from managing billions of dollars in Oklahoma pensions, investments and other state entities…”
 
It won't be a civil war....there won't just be 2 sides...everyone wants a piece.
It will be a balkanization of America.
LA Raza wants their share, the blacks want theirs, the whites want theirs...China already owns much of us.
This is not gonna be pretty...we will need a common enemy to pull together...oh wait, our government is working on that, Russia bad...
 
Should there ever be a civil war here (which I hope not) I will NOT fight on the side of the government, by no means.
This system that currently prevails is the purest government dictatorship and absolutely nothing to justify it, we are being fooled and played off against each other.
Everything that would be important for the people is prevented by the government here and referendums are actively disregarded by the government.
 
Someone has to defend the constitution. However, until patriots get a means of communication unable to be monitored by the globalists, I don't see a real movement.

Someone needs to be skilled in strategy. Online organization would never work. The globalist own the internet.
Defending the constitution does not require strategy, it requires nothing but resolve. They do not need to communicate, they only need to know what is right vs. what is wrong and be tired enough of being oppressed to die for the freedoms they claim to value so much.
 
Defending the constitution does not require strategy, it requires nothing but resolve. They do not need to communicate, they only need to know what is right vs. what is wrong and be tired enough of being oppressed to die for the freedoms they claim to value so much.
Well, have at it, then.
Many people seem to have the answers but so far I'm not seeing anyone do anything.
 
Defending the constitution does not require strategy, it requires nothing but resolve. They do not need to communicate, they only need to know what is right vs. what is wrong and be tired enough of being oppressed to die for the freedoms they claim to value so much.
I hope you were joking. Evil wins wars all the time. Who’s right and who’s wrong is a matter for the history books to decide, and history is written by the victors. Strategy, logistics, manpower, these are all things that are required in any conflict. It doesn’t matter if the conflict is hot conflict or Cold War status.
 
The rights acknowledged by the Constitution come from Almighty God and do not stop when a tyrannical, treasonous cabal attempts to oppress and subvert them.

They don't end when those tyrants attempt to shred our Constitution, or give American soveriegnty to foreign powers either.

Molon labe
 
Well, have at it, then.
Many people seem to have the answers but so far I'm not seeing anyone do anything
Nearly all of the people claiming they "don't see anyone doing anything" are doing nothing themselves except sitting there waiting for someone with more courage than them to challenge the system.

Resolve requires mental preparedness and courage, it does not mean having the blueprints to the governors house and an encrypted texting app with discussions on who to "straighten out". If people understood the laws that govern them, they would have a better chance at defending themselves and their rights. And if enough people did that, things would change.

Don't like seatbelt laws? Maybe you should learn how to challenge court jurisdiction (hint: if you are at trial, its too late). What does jurisdicion have to do with it? A whole lot. Step one - establish that it is a criminal matter by asking them, they will certainly agree. Step 2- point out that the constitution guarantees you a jury trial for anything over $20. At this point they will look irritated and begin to stumble over their words and finally say that this is a civil matter and that you are not entitled to a jury (as no jury will convict on a seatbelt case). At that time, you simply motion to dismiss on the grounds that the criminal court you are standing in just admitted to not having jurisdiction and then walk out when they are forced to agree with you.

Know a felon with a firearm charge? Imagine how pissed that person would be to find out their public defender (working for the prosecutor and paid by the state) blasted the defendant right through omnibus and pretrial and now his opportunity to address evidentiary and constitutional issues is gone forever! That Rule 11 (minnesota) opportunity is never coming back and you will not be allowed to utter the words "Bill of Rights" in trial because you missed your chance!

"Doing something about it" doesn't require an AR-15., although it is a nice thing to have on hand.
 
Nearly all of the people claiming they "don't see anyone doing anything" are doing nothing themselves except sitting there waiting for someone with more courage than them to challenge the system.

Resolve requires mental preparedness and courage, it does not mean having the blueprints to the governors house and an encrypted texting app with discussions on who to "straighten out". If people understood the laws that govern them, they would have a better chance at defending themselves and their rights. And if enough people did that, things would change.

Don't like seatbelt laws? Maybe you should learn how to challenge court jurisdiction (hint: if you are at trial, its too late). What does jurisdicion have to do with it? A whole lot. Step one - establish that it is a criminal matter by asking them, they will certainly agree. Step 2- point out that the constitution guarantees you a jury trial for anything over $20. At this point they will look irritated and begin to stumble over their words and finally say that this is a civil matter and that you are not entitled to a jury (as no jury will convict on a seatbelt case). At that time, you simply motion to dismiss on the grounds that the criminal court you are standing in just admitted to not having jurisdiction and then walk out when they are forced to agree with you.

Know a felon with a firearm charge? Imagine how pissed that person would be to find out their public defender (working for the prosecutor and paid by the state) blasted the defendant right through omnibus and pretrial and now his opportunity to address evidentiary and constitutional issues is gone forever! That Rule 11 (minnesota) opportunity is never coming back and you will not be allowed to utter the words "Bill of Rights" in trial because you missed your chance!

"Doing something about it" doesn't require an AR-15., although it is a nice thing to have on hand.

The criminals in power do not obey laws that go against there Tyrrany. If we wish to use the law to protect our liberties, we must first restore the rule of law and remove the criminals that rule there.
 
Nearly all of the people claiming they "don't see anyone doing anything" are doing nothing themselves except sitting there waiting for someone with more courage than them to challenge the system.

Resolve requires mental preparedness and courage, it does not mean having the blueprints to the governors house and an encrypted texting app with discussions on who to "straighten out". If people understood the laws that govern them, they would have a better chance at defending themselves and their rights. And if enough people did that, things would change.

Don't like seatbelt laws? Maybe you should learn how to challenge court jurisdiction (hint: if you are at trial, its too late). What does jurisdicion have to do with it? A whole lot. Step one - establish that it is a criminal matter by asking them, they will certainly agree. Step 2- point out that the constitution guarantees you a jury trial for anything over $20. At this point they will look irritated and begin to stumble over their words and finally say that this is a civil matter and that you are not entitled to a jury (as no jury will convict on a seatbelt case). At that time, you simply motion to dismiss on the grounds that the criminal court you are standing in just admitted to not having jurisdiction and then walk out when they are forced to agree with you.

Know a felon with a firearm charge? Imagine how pissed that person would be to find out their public defender (working for the prosecutor and paid by the state) blasted the defendant right through omnibus and pretrial and now his opportunity to address evidentiary and constitutional issues is gone forever! That Rule 11 (minnesota) opportunity is never coming back and you will not be allowed to utter the words "Bill of Rights" in trial because you missed your chance!

"Doing something about it" doesn't require an AR-15., although it is a nice thing to have on hand.


While I owe you zero explanations- I'll suffice to say that I am content with the differences I have made for my communities and state. You wouldn't know that, of course, because you don't know me.

There are a lot of assumptions in your reaponse. I clearly am not on a public forum encouraging anyone to invade a governors house. That is idiotic and, frankly, silly to assume that's what I meant.

"Plans" are needed for even things as simple who is running for an office. What information we have, what our plans are, which laws will be challenged and the strategy for doing so, those are all things we need to hold closely until it is necessaryto reveal them. Thus far, our attempts at winning back our government from those who are clearly willing to break laws and scheme has not been successful because we are treating it as if they follow the rules. They don't. You can't tell the opposition every detail of your plans if the opposition will use whatever information they have to undermine you.

Any national headway must be communicated in some way. Yes, there are plenty of ways to be involved in a grassroots movement, but national changes require national coordination.

Even responses to national problems like BLM riots could use some national coordination. As of now, the opposition owns all communication. There is no way to communicate how to deal with a riot, for example, without using their means of communication.


Arrogance always gets my hackles up, so of you didn't intend to sound as condescending as you did, I hope you'll understand. If you are confused about something I comment, ask. My life is short and I have no time for argumentative folks who just want to get into a pissing contest.
 
Few of us have the influence or the monetary means. Though some of us do our part whenever and however we can. Things like this take time, but we do have our leaders, we just have to actively get involved.
That is certainly a problem. Itnis unfortunate that those who get involved in politics are normally people who crave power, so they are often easily manipulated by that desire.
 
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