Whats in your bug out bag ?

[WilliamAshley]

IMO it really depends on the scenario. I usually hike with a mostly empty bag but if I know what I'm going out for I'll bring stuff associated with that.

Since bugging in is my first likelyhood for between April and October, I have my gear, but most of it is non essential for specific situations, and is not the same as what I would hike with. example I'm not likely to take a gas mask and chem suit with me hiking, although I might take a car tow rope hitch for use to shimy up a tree. I have first aid kits that I can bring but I almost always end up using mud, and sap, bracket fungi to cover up cuts that are bleeding. For a serious injury I think a whole lot of pain killers would be in store. None the less I've learned a bit about the forest up here so I know some uses for things like cedar leaves, birch, pine, spruce, and other trees, medicinal and modern nutirition. I'm not expert woodsman though.

If I need to bug out what is in my bag will depend on the situation but it would take total civil chaos for me to bug out, or pandemic, or something like a forest fire. In most cases the municipality would manage an evacuation for a forest fire unless it was out of no where but my solution would likely be throwing my inflatable kayak into the lake that is 100meters from me and waiting out the fire. with a dry suit on perhaps burrying a few item if I have time.

If government is still in effect I would expect them to lock everything down, road blocks, military and reserves called up with even potentially more government called into support roles. The only bug out would be to the back woods, and for that I'd be very concerned about availability of food because carrying food with me likely would not be enough to last more than a month to two months. although some could definatley be supplimented but with no certainty. But in non summer months bugging out is not much of an option unless it is bugging out to another country that has not been effected. I can't imagine bugging out up here past September, without having a winterized tent and more arctic survival gear, it could be doable but I think it would be more dangerous than bugging in. Now I have an interesting situation coming up in september I can't really go into but I'll perhaps say more when the time arrives.

Now for things I would likely carry with me in most bug out situations

-backpack
-camelpack with water bladder.
-hatchet
- food items (flour, rice, vanilla protein powder)
-compass/themometer
-water filter.
-lighter and matches

- I also like but not essential my cheap baofang uv5r - which also has a low light led that can strobe dual band, useful for team communications, there are lots of other small items but not essential.

-crossbow or firearm if extended or real back woods but I consider this just a safety measure as most wild animals might be able to be kept at bay with sharpened stakes.

- bug netting can also make life easier.
- a bivy bag can also improve ones sleep
- in colder times a sleeping bag can save time that would otherwise be spent collecting grass and leaves.

-- and of course extra socks.
-Im also considering taking an extra pair of boots with me too, not sure yet though.

Swimming trunks and a towel might be good too.

Apparently an easy way to get a lot of food is to leave your food out in the open and be prepared to eat whatever comes for it, now this likely isn't legal so it should only be used in emergency situations. Although I have maximum respect for animals and I'm not sure I have that sort of survivor spirit but it is a survival strategy in bear country.

---- Personally my prepping is more about capacity building. in a civil collapse situation things get very grey very fast. ArmyofOne

 

[MistiLoo]

Haloray, I love your list - it's very comprehensive. Question though - in the event of a bug-out, how in the world will you and hubby carry all that + your child? Or do you plan to drive to "there"?

I'm thinking to pack essentials for a walk-out, and then to the rear of my space some bags to load in the car that has items to make life easier.

So far I have:
Water purification
Fire
Warmth/Shelter
Clothing
Food
First aid, homeopathic knowledge
Safety

My biggest concern by far is for my very lovely daughter. I've been thinking of ways to make her plain - make her look dumpy, frumpy. I don't want terrible things to happen to her. Any pointers/ideas?

Anyway - I've made a beginning. And plans to follow up on more. I feel a terrible sense of urgency lately to hurry hurry!!

 

[MistiLoo]

Thanks for the ideas William. I hadn't thought of the STI route.

I don't know if I want to hear of the more graphic ideas. I'm kinda squeamish. Let me think on it.

 

[WilliamAshley]

Thanks for the ideas William. I hadn't thought of the STI route.

I don't know if I want to hear of the more graphic ideas. I'm kinda squeamish. Let me think on it.

they are sexually natured so not for a public audience but they will potentially work.. and reduce risk. (note also though that if the guy thinks there is no resistance or cooperation close in a good hard strike to the adams apple followed by use of a wrist knife may be enough.. There are many factors, krav maga however teaches that you take out your oponent its not about fighting fair it is about removing the threat. That means striking critical points hard and fast. Surpised assaults though can be reduced by chastity belts. There are even "pincer inserts available that attach to the male organ" like a mouse trap of sorts. With injectible knockouts, many are not legal in the us etc.. but really few women probably want to walk around with a pincer devise inserted. A legal version for example might be here http://scinewsblog.blogspot.ca/2010/06/new-rape-prevention-tool-female-condom.html. Carrying around some acid in a bottle is an easy defence also, people with sulfuric acid thrown at them will probably not continue the rape and have other worries. -- its funny you see all those rioting punks throwing molotovs they could probably get more damage dealt bydelivering sulfuric acid. readily available and corrosive as hell. Forget mace, sulfuric acid is legal to carry. However, be mindful that anyone using this method within rule of law may have issues after the attack.

PS I'm thinking about adding airtight garbage bags to my spring summer/fall in place of a sleeping bag or to supliment the bivy. As they can be used to seal in biomass and also potentially used to float a bag or stuff you don't to get wet if crossing water.

I've also added bunny boots (extreme vapour barrier type II) boots to my gear intentions for the winter, as well as the level 7's and a lined russian winter field jacket --- the pants are grey and the jacket black to not to scream military like. although I'm still putting my efforts into prepping for surviving outdoors during the winter up here in northern ontario I think the extra layer may be all I need, that and perhaps adding more fats to my diet. More or less I'll probably be sleeping 6 to 8 hours outdoors starting around september for a couple months, then in the winter I will be doing the same again. I think I may try to pick up another bivy because my old one is getting worn from two years of use, only a few months. If anyone has suggestions on a good cold weather waterproof, light, and relatively low cost bivy kindly send info my way.

 

[MistiLoo]

they are sexually natured so not for a public audience but they will potentially work.. and reduce risk.

PS I'm thinking about adding airtight garbage bags to my spring summer/fall in place of a sleeping bag or to supliment the bivy. As they can be used to seal in biomass and also potentially used to float a bag or stuff you don't to get wet if crossing water.

Alright. I think I have to know. I cannot see the button to PM you. Where is it located?

 

[rudyc]

I have...
Bag.
Food: 3 coleman dehydrated food. and 3 packs of tuna.
Water: 4 bottles of 1 liters.
Very Small fishing kit that came in a gerber survival belt.
Stanley Adventure Camp Cook Set which can be used to boil water for drinking or for the dehydrated food.
Small First aid Kit.
Bandana.
Stanley Multitool.
Tarp.
Self Inflating Mat.
50 Ft. of Paracord.
Knifes.
Water Filtration Straw.
Sawyer Water filter.
Mini Prybar.
Flashlights.
Batteries.
N95 Mask.
Fire Makers: Water Proof Matches, Lighters, Cotton Balls, some with vaseline, flare stick, Striker.
Space Blanket.
BB. Gun with CO2 Cannisters and extra BB's.
Camping Stove With Fuel.
Pepper Spray.
Walkie Talkie.
About 20 Bucks in small bills.
Small Radio.
2 Ponchos.
2 Heavy Duty Trash Bags.
5 Hour energy drink.
Electrolyte Powder Mix.
Maps of Local areas.
Small Compass.


i can not remember any more of what i have out the top of my head. i am pretty sure i am mising a few more items and will add them as i remember.

i know i need a change of clothes. that will be added as soon as i can. if not in the bag, at least on the outside with the self inflating mat.

 

[Trapper]

Great start. I like you have a handkerchief. Countless uses for them. An item most people overlook.

 

[jimLE]

i went into a surpluse store a couple days ago.and bought a back pack..now its a matter of removeing my b.o.b. stuff from my tote bag and transfering it to the pack..i dont look forward to it.but it gotta be done..

 

[topdoc30]

TENT
SLEEPING BAG
WATER PUR TABS AND TUBES
3Liter CamelBak
12GA with rounds or AR-15
9MM with rounds
FIRE STARTER/Lighter/Matches
2X 3000 cal food bar
Flashlight/ 4 extra Bat.
Machettee
KNIFE with Stone
Fishing Line/ hooks/sinkers/ in pack
2 pair sock /underware/ change of clothes
Cheap Poncho
Canteen/ with Alum cup
8 Vit Paks small sealed
Compass
550 cord
Fleece jacket/leather gloves

Hat cammo
Gerber

 

[rudyc]

i went into a surpluse store a couple days ago.and bought a back pack..now its a matter of removeing my b.o.b. stuff from my tote bag and transfering it to the pack..i dont look forward to it.but it gotta be done..

I find this fun. I have been through many bags and enjoy transferring the items since it reminds me what I have and what I need to exchange. Also I get to play around with some of the items.

 

[WilliamAshley]

Ok so I've started loading up my bag, and my secondary as I'm headed hiking in it...





plus bug netting... and bug spray and a cooking pot.

My secondary bag is a camera bag and it has my CBRN gear and a few other things in it.

 

[Trapper]

Ashley,
Watched your first video. A few tips for your water filter. The sawyer filter is the one I use when in the Boundary Waters when I canoe. Its is the best gravity feed filter I have found on the market. The syringe is not for slowly filtering. It is for back flushing out any impurities from the filter. There is a lot of tannin in the water due to all the trees in the wilderness areas. The carmel color in the water is due to the tannins. This will clog a filter very quickly. When the filter has slowed down running water through use the syringe to push FRESH FILTERED water back into the filter from the outlet. This will speed up the filter a lot. One way to avoid as much tannins & impurities is to get your water from away from shore if possible. This is especially true for garidia.

I know they sold those filters in a bottle and to drink right through the filter as a straw. You can add tubing to the outlet and tubing to the inlet. Attach a bag or bucket to a hose and hose attaches to the inlet end filter. A second hose comes from the outlet into your camel back or drinking bottle. Its very convenient if you need to filter for several people. I have mine attached to a 1.5 gallon bucket that I can hang. I also put a hose clamp on to control when I want water flow. If you need a better explanation or pictures let me know. Hope this helps.

 

[WilliamAshley]

It doesn't. I've been using the filter for many months and I know how to use it. Reposting the instructions that come with it isn't helpful.

As I stated the backflow to purge the filter is one use for the syringe another is to use it instead of gravity filtering with a bucket which isn't convenient to carry.

Obviously sterilize the syringe before using it to purge.

I will also remind you I will likely ignore anything you post, also my name isn't Ashley so don't call me Ashley. FO.

 

[Trapper]

It was apparent from your camper made video that you had little if any knowledge when trying to explain the water filter. That's why I thought you could use the information as I have ACTUALLY used this unit. A water bladder as I stated could be used instead of a bucket attachment. The directions do not state to sterilize anything. You may want to read them again. Also I just checked again the name you post by "WilliamAshley" so I assume your last name is Ashley isn't it??? The abbreviate swearing is also not warranted. This is a place that many people come to including women and kids. If you don't like it you can always quit and go to another survival forum. I assume you cant because you have been kicked off most of them on the internet. Your a joke Ashley....... LOL

 

[WilliamAshley]

It was apparent from your camper made video that you had little if any knowledge when trying to explain the water filter. That's why I thought you could use the information as I have ACTUALLY used this unit. A water bladder as I stated could be used instead of a bucket attachment. The directions do not state to sterilize anything. You may want to read them again. Also I just checked again the name you post by "WilliamAshley" so I assume your last name is Ashley isn't it??? The abbreviate swearing is also not warranted. This is a place that many people come to including women and kids. If you don't like it you can always quit and go to another survival forum. I assume you cant because you have been kicked off most of them on the internet. Your a joke Ashley....... LOL

I hope you go to hell 性交er. You are a troll, I've requested it multiple times don't communicate with me. I don't own the 性交ing name, my name is William and if you are going to address me people in Civil society use first names not institutionalized last names which is just plain rude. To you it is Rev. Ashley or Dr. Ashley, if it is neither of those don't use it, you are not an authority and I am not a surname.

Trapper I beleive nothing you say, you are not a real person. I really don't need the instructions of a product read to me when I know how to use the bloody product. The way I use it is more effective for what I use it for.

None the less my swearing is completely warranted because you are nothing but a disrepsectful ignorant scumbag.

I won't say it again, don't communicate with me.

It is net stalking scum like you that ruin the internet experience for people now 性交 off.

If you have a message to me message me privately you don't need to be flame baiting.

Now 性交 off, I know you are just trying to get under my skin, and you arn't frankly you are getting the response you deserve.

Now go end up face down in a gutter somewhere. You pathetic excuse for a human.

You hold absolutely no weight whatsoever with my determinations on my own survival. You are ignored because you are not real, you don't exist you are just a troll that net stalks and ridicules and tries to belittle. All I can say is get a life because you have pain and lots of pain coming to you in the end. Your comments are spam, and harassment. Finally said 性交 OFF.

You are once again ingored. Don't commuicate with me.

MY NAME IS NOT ASHLEY. Grow a brain. People like you don't deserve the air you breath.

I can't be more clear than, do not communicate with me. You are nothing but an annoying asshole, your methods of trolling are obvious.

You are nothing, you arn't real, you are a fiction. You are just a tool to harass. That is all you are. You hold no respect, no weight in my life. You simply put are a waste of text. I sincerely hope you suffer.


I don't carry a 性交ing bucket in my bag. who the hell carries a 性交ing bucket in their bag?

Dude just shake it out. You know nothing. You probably just skimmed the website and are now reposting information on a product I own and have used. Trying to put down my advice which is highly useful.

You know nothing your advice is elementary and non informative. The information sheet that comes with it provides much more insightful information than that.

My comments explain how to more effectively use the product while hiking.

You clearly have no insight into how the product can be used other than what anyone researching the product can learn from the products website.

"trapper" you are just wasting my time. Don't talk to me. I do not think you will in anyway assist my life so your comments to me are 100% spam.

There is absolutely nothing funny about you agitating me and wasting my time. I'd knock your teeth out if you were a real person for your actions.

Net stalking trolls like you should be dead or in jail.

 

[Trapper]

So when I posted a response to your video where was I rude? I tried to be helpful as it was clear you did not know how to use the very product you were trying to explain. That makes you the ignorant one. Its not like I accused you of child abuse like you did to another member in another thread. Perhaps you need to start a thread asking in a poll who has more to contribute. The one with the least amount of votes leaves. Everyone here is tired of your attitude and useless rants and videos.

 

[WilliamAshley]

So when I posted a response to your video where was I rude? I tried to be helpful as it was clear you did not know how to use the very product you were trying to explain. That makes you the ignorant one. Its not like I accused you of child abuse like you did to another member in another thread. Perhaps you need to start a thread asking in a poll who has more to contribute. The one with the least amount of votes leaves. Everyone here is tired of your attitude and useless rants and videos.

Stop communicating with me, or at very least send your spam to this sites private conversation. You are falsely defaming me with your asinine statements regarding what I have said. You are a liar, stop communicating with me, you are just trying to flame. If you had a shred of respect you would move this to conversation rather than politicizing your flame baiting. That is all. You are rude and ignorant and/or extremely stupid. Stop wasting my time.

You take every opportunity to launch veiled attacks, and it is unwelcome. Your communications directed to me are unwelcome. If you have something to say to me send it to private communication. Your acts are nothing but a stage show to defame, deride and tarnish my enjoyment of this site. Communicate all you want on this site, but communications with me are unwelcome. Continuance to communicating with me Trapper is unwelcome. Have you understood that yet.

You are just sowing discord and embedding yourself to futher your actions as a troll, like you have done on other sites as well.

Kindly respect my request for you not to communicate with me or direct communications to me at all anywhere, not just this website but anywhere in existence, your communications with me are considered spam Trapper.

I have made a simple request, please respect it.

 

[Trapper]

Per your conditions, I would have to quit because you seem to have an uneducated opinion on everything and post everywhere. I (like many others here) don't agree with what you post. I will take you on every time you post false information, stupid information or attack other members of the forum. That does not make me a troll. If you don't like responding to me then don't. You are not obligated to. Even when I post information to actually help you your too thick headed to realize it and piss your pants screaming "your being a troll". Then you have the balls to threaten me and want to knock out my teeth. Big words for a burn out like you. If you ever seen me on the street you would run off and cry like you do here. You would not have big words if you were not hiding behind your keyboard.
Perhaps you can start actually provide information here from experience like other members. All you do is google information so you have something to reply to. It gets old when all you give is crap information that you have no knowledge of or experience in. It is not on just one subject but almost on everything you write.
Just so you are aware, I will not stop responding. I will continue to provide useful information. I will continue to challenge every post you write that is false, misleading or attacks other members here. I am surprised you have not been banned due to your own actions. Perhaps you should take the advice I have given several times and leave - permanently........

 

[WilliamAshley]

I notice you don't have mosquito repellent or bug netting. Is this an urban bug out? Up here the bugs are absolutely insane at this time of the year, it actually is probably one of the biggest threats up here. You can get bug netting from Asia for under $5
and it can be used to set up a bug canopy over you or hung over top of you and tied around your waist. bug spray is good but it doesn't always work 100% it is more of a repellent. The nets are often repellent treated in addition to being a physical barrier. They also fit in a small pouch and are very light. They can also act as a insulating material. I'll be carrying both with me. Bug spray that is flammable can be useful also.

Also in a SHTF there of serious magnitude there may be untreated sewage dead animals etc.. that will attract bugs, and make transmission of disease greater. If you have room I'd add the netting and repellent spray to your list. It is more important than pain killers imo and ranks just under caffeine.

I have...
Bag.
Food: 3 coleman dehydrated food. and 3 packs of tuna.
Water: 4 bottles of 1 liters.
Very Small fishing kit that came in a gerber survival belt.
Stanley Adventure Camp Cook Set which can be used to boil water for drinking or for the dehydrated food.
Small First aid Kit.
Bandana.
Stanley Multitool.
Tarp.
Self Inflating Mat.
50 Ft. of Paracord.
Knifes.
Water Filtration Straw.
Sawyer Water filter.
Mini Prybar.
Flashlights.
Batteries.
N95 Mask.
Fire Makers: Water Proof Matches, Lighters, Cotton Balls, some with vaseline, flare stick, Striker.
Space Blanket.
BB. Gun with CO2 Cannisters and extra BB's.
Camping Stove With Fuel.
Pepper Spray.
Walkie Talkie.
About 20 Bucks in small bills.
Small Radio.
2 Ponchos.
2 Heavy Duty Trash Bags.
5 Hour energy drink.
Electrolyte Powder Mix.
Maps of Local areas.
Small Compass.


i can not remember any more of what i have out the top of my head. i am pretty sure i am mising a few more items and will add them as i remember.

i know i need a change of clothes. that will be added as soon as i can. if not in the bag, at least on the outside with the self inflating mat.

Here is some quick tips on bug protection, so in your Bug out Bag, consider some BUG OFF equipment.




Here is info on deet..


even more info on deet


PS don't eat a lot of cedar but it is good as a tea or spice.

 

[jimLE]

say williamashley..trapper joined march 10th..you joined march 20th..so it could be said that your following him instead...so im wondering who's following who.and who's the lier now.and some of the thngs you say in your post dont make sinse..so why dont you just leave tihs forum to honest good folks.