Helpful Info. What everyone must do to defeat Covid19

[Maverick]

I just saw that in NY almost 23,000 people have died from covid 19. Hong Kong, which is very comparable in size to NYC has only had 4 covid deaths. The only difference is EVERYONE in Hong Kong wears a mask. Masks work, I don’t care how many stupid excuses people can come up with for not wearing them.....

Close to 10,000 died in nursing homes due to the governor orders (NY), many deaths were counted of covid19 deaths when in fact they weren't. The number in the US is almost as bad as china as far as reporting goes. I believe masks work but the majority of people using them are not doing it properly and over using the same mask and not using common sense when removing the mask. For the majority the masks are a false sense of security.

 

[Preachnlogic]

Has anyone seen the information the pandemic is being overhyped intentionally to make changes. In the last week alone I saw Visa file for a one-world currency to annihilate cash, The Patriots act has been beefed up for warrantless access to all citizens data, and they're giving out information to make everyone even more susceptible to disease to make it worse.

I keep seeing that the media is showcasing hydroxychloroquin but no one says it is an immunosuppressive. The sheltering in place and sanitizing actually ruins our immune system, and they're encouraging bloated numbers by giving out $13,000 to anyone who claims Corona virus killed their patient. Guidelines have been given out by the CDC to be liberal. Any symptoms of covid and then a death are reported as a coronavairus death whether it's COPD, shortness of breath, edema, mysterious complication, or any loose descriptor. Claimed as coronavirus without a test. in fact the world health organization isn't even counting flu deaths this year. I dunno why, probably because every flu death is being called a coronovirus death.

There was a whistleblower documentary called plandemic and the powers that be only let you see the debunk videos. I quoted "plandemic full movie" and found it buried several pages of results in

I'm not getting my information just from that though. Joe rogan's had on a few doctors saying this stuff and most medical doctors podcasting are saying the guidelines are wrong and warning everyone. Then YouTube or whoever bans them.

I know conspiracy seems like the religion of crazy folk... But there's a conspiracy here... This disease is being bolstered to wag the dog and take away more of our independence. Drs say if you are at risk you should wear a mask but healthy people shouldn't we shouldn't isolate we should gain a herd immunity to stop the viral evolution quickly than let it slowly burn on, evolving as it keeps spreading and killing our elderly.

The average person to die from Corona virus is 73 years old. That's because they are just people dying of everything at normal life expectancy, but it's all given credit to a disease in order to change our behavior and expectations.

The best thing for fighting this disease is some vitamin d and going out in the sun. If you are vitamin d deficient in your serum blood levels you have an 80% chance of mortality. people with sufficient vitamin d levels only have a 6% mortality from Corona virus. On top of that stressful cortisol levels and sanitized unused immune systems are making us weak too. Get dirty in your garden or something. Stop worrying about a disease that's being intentionally bloated to make you worry, and you'll be stronger

 

[Preachnlogic]

I just saw that in NY almost 23,000 people have died from covid 19. Hong Kong, which is very comparable in size to NYC has only had 4 covid deaths. The only difference is EVERYONE in Hong Kong wears a mask. Masks work, I don’t care how many stupid excuses people can come up with for not wearing them.....

You can't believe China's telling the truth there. China's also changing their legislation to take advantage of pandemic stopping protests like America did with Patriots act and Visa did for one world digital cashless currency...

Masks should only be for those at risk. The faster the herd immunity the less time for the virus to mutate. Were absorbing bad virtue signaling from the propaganda... Stop maskless shaming. Were buying into the panic

 

[Brent S]

Close to 10,000 died in nursing homes due to the governor orders (NY), many deaths were counted of covid19 deaths when in fact they weren't. The number in the US is almost as bad as china as far as reporting goes. I believe masks work but the majority of people using them are not doing it properly and over using the same mask and not using common sense when removing the mask. For the majority the masks are a false sense of security.

While I agree masks aren’t a 100% certain guarantee you won’t get sick, they do help tremendously. Most of the latest research is showing airborne people to people transmission is the primary way this is spread.

 

[DrHenley]

Has anyone seen the information the pandemic is being overhyped intentionally to make changes.

You are so late to the party, most people went home already, LOL.

We've been talking about this since January. Not many people are talking about it right now because most people got tired of talking about for four months.

 

[Proud Prepper]

Has anyone seen the information the pandemic is being overhyped intentionally to make changes. In the last week alone I saw Visa file for a one-world currency to annihilate cash, The Patriots act has been beefed up for warrantless access to all citizens data, and they're giving out information to make everyone even more susceptible to disease to make it worse.

I keep seeing that the media is showcasing hydroxychloroquin but no one says it is an immunosuppressive. The sheltering in place and sanitizing actually ruins our immune system, and they're encouraging bloated numbers by giving out $13,000 to anyone who claims Corona virus killed their patient. Guidelines have been given out by the CDC to be liberal. Any symptoms of covid and then a death are reported as a coronavairus death whether it's COPD, shortness of breath, edema, mysterious complication, or any loose descriptor. Claimed as coronavirus without a test. in fact the world health organization isn't even counting flu deaths this year. I dunno why, probably because every flu death is being called a coronovirus death.

There was a whistleblower documentary called plandemic and the powers that be only let you see the debunk videos. I quoted "plandemic full movie" and found it buried several pages of results in

I'm not getting my information just from that though. Joe rogan's had on a few doctors saying this stuff and most medical doctors podcasting are saying the guidelines are wrong and warning everyone. Then YouTube or whoever bans them.

I know conspiracy seems like the religion of crazy folk... But there's a conspiracy here... This disease is being bolstered to wag the dog and take away more of our independence. Drs say if you are at risk you should wear a mask but healthy people shouldn't we shouldn't isolate we should gain a herd immunity to stop the viral evolution quickly than let it slowly burn on, evolving as it keeps spreading and killing our elderly.

The average person to die from Corona virus is 73 years old. That's because they are just people dying of everything at normal life expectancy, but it's all given credit to a disease in order to change our behavior and expectations.

The best thing for fighting this disease is some vitamin d and going out in the sun. If you are vitamin d deficient in your serum blood levels you have an 80% chance of mortality. people with sufficient vitamin d levels only have a 6% mortality from Corona virus. On top of that stressful cortisol levels and sanitized unused immune systems are making us weak too. Get dirty in your garden or something. Stop worrying about a disease that's being intentionally bloated to make you worry, and you'll be stronger

You seem to have a mix of truths and falsehoods. Which happens if you just pull things from the news. Now what you do is seperate what's false and your left with truths, then you logically fill in the blank's of what's not know. I wont do this for you, it's best if you figure out.
I can give you a little help though. The virus is real, it is man made and dangers and death rates are under recorded overall.

Hydroxychloriquin is not a true immunosuppressive, like most. Every socialist and tyrannical group in the world is taking advantage of the virus to gain more control over the population. This is all still the beginning of what's to come.

 

[BillMasen]

Laughing my socks off at the UK ( anti Trump) establishment who have for months ridiculed you're President for using that HexyChlory stuff. Then they quietly annouce they are conducting trials with it in the UK.

 

[DrHenley]

Laughing my socks off at the UK ( anti Trump) establishment who have for months ridiculed you're President for using that HexyChlory stuff. Then they quietly annouce they are conducting trials with it in the UK.

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show...ychloroquine+ZINC&cond=COVID-19&draw=2&rank=6

 

[Brent S]

Laughing my socks off at the UK ( anti Trump) establishment who have for months ridiculed you're President for using that HexyChlory stuff. Then they quietly annouce they are conducting trials with it in the UK.

Now they are saying more died on it than not.

 

[DrHenley]

Now they are saying more died on it than not.

Brent, will take off your MSM parrot cap for a minute and put on your THINKING CAP and listen...

That's because A) they used dosages higher than know safe levels, and B) they waited too late to use it. Most doctors are using as a Hail Mary when someone is going downhill after they are already in the ICU. Hydroxychloroquine is to PREVENT a cytokine storm, and to disrupt the replication of the virus by increasing the amount of zinc in the cells. Once a cytokine storm has occurred, you can no longer prevent a cytokine storm. The damage being done to your lungs is now your own immune system attacking your ACE2 inhibitor cells. The virus itself doesn't have to do anything and doesn't need to replicate anymore.

That's like putting a seat belt on someone after a car crash, and they when he dies saying "SEE seat belts don't save lives!"

But hey, don't believe me, read what the National Institutes of Health says about it

Zinc disrupts cytokine storms:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3407988/

Zinc disrupts coronavirus replication:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2973827/

Chloroquine (and by extension hydroxychloroquine) increases uptake of zinc by the cells
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4182877/

 

[KateMTx]

I just saw that in NY almost 23,000 people have died from covid 19. Hong Kong, which is very comparable in size to NYC has only had 4 covid deaths. The only difference is EVERYONE in Hong Kong wears a mask. Masks work, I don’t care how many stupid excuses people can come up with for not wearing them.....

First off I don't believe that only 4 died there. I think there's more but few enough they can easily cover it with other reasons. But there is one other BIG difference between HK and NY. In HK they used an extremely privacy-invasive contact-tracing system to quarantine everyone who has had any sort of contact with the virus. The system basically keeps track of everyone that everyone has been in contact with, so if one person tests positive then all the people they exposed are hauled off to quarantine centers for 14 days.

 

[Brent S]

First off I don't believe that only 4 died there. I think there's more but few enough they can easily cover it with other reasons. But there is one other BIG difference between HK and NY. In HK they used an extremely privacy-invasive contact-tracing system to quarantine everyone who has had any sort of contact with the virus. The system basically keeps track of everyone that everyone has been in contact with, so if one person tests positive then all the people they exposed are hauled off to quarantine centers for 14 days.

I don’t doubt the numbers were higher there, but still no where near NYs . Another reason is the average person in Hong Kong is in better shape than most Americans. They have very low rates of obesity and diabetes too. No matter what though, the universal use of masks does make a huge difference.

 

[Brent S]

Brent, will take off your MSM parrot cap for a minute and put on your THINKING CAP and listen...

That's because A) they used dosages higher than know safe levels, and B) they waited too late to use it. Most doctors are using as a Hail Mary when someone is going downhill after they are already in the ICU. Hydroxychloroquine is to PREVENT a cytokine storm, and to disrupt the replication of the virus by increasing the amount of zinc in the cells. Once a cytokine storm has occurred, you can no longer prevent a cytokine storm. The damage being done to your lungs is now your own immune system attacking your ACE2 inhibitor cells. The virus itself doesn't have to do anything and doesn't need to replicate anymore.

That's like putting a seat belt on someone after a car crash, and they when he dies saying "SEE seat belts don't save lives!"

But hey, don't believe me, read what the National Institutes of Health says about it

Zinc disrupts cytokine storms:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3407988/

Zinc disrupts coronavirus replication:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2973827/

Chloroquine (and by extension hydroxychloroquine) increases uptake of zinc by the cells
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4182877/

The study I read was from six different countries, no political bias like all the stuff in this country. I didn’t save the article but will see if I can find it again.

 

[Proud Prepper]

The study I read was from six different countries, no political bias like all the stuff in this country. I didn’t save the article but will see if I can find it again.

That was an observational study with data taken from 6 different countries. If you read it and analyze the variables in the data pulled from patients records, it is not worth much of anything. There is no data on the timing of when these patients where given the HCQ or if Zinc was given in conjunction with HCQ.
You realy should read more than a headline if your going to claim to know anything or have an educated opinion on a subject.

 

[DrHenley]

Here are some things for you to read:
NOTE: Not a single clinical trial using hydroxychloroquine and zinc has been completed yet. Two are underway, and six are not yet recruiting subjects.
The first link is the government database on clinical trials, listing all eight scheduled clinical trials on hydroxychloroquine and zinc. Not just in the US, but worldwide. The other links are studies on hydroxychloroquine.
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/resu...oxychloroquine+ZINC&cntry=&state=&city=&dist=

Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine as available weapons to fight COVID-19
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7135139/

Remdesivir and chloroquine effectively inhibit the recently emerged novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) in vitro
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7054408/

New insights on the antiviral effects of chloroquine against coronavirus: what to expect for COVID-19?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7118659/

Breakthrough: Chloroquine phosphate has shown apparent efficacy in treatment of COVID-19 associated pneumonia in clinical studies
https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/bst/14/1/14_2020.01047/_pdf/-char/en

Improving the efficacy of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine against SARS-CoV-2 may require zinc additives - A better synergy for future COVID-19 clinical trials
https://www.infezmed.it/media/journal/Vol_28_2_2020_9.pdf

A systematic review on the efficacy and safety of chloroquine for the treatment of COVID-19
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0883944120303907?via=ihub

 

[Brent S]

That was an observational study with data taken from 6 different countries. If you read it and analyze the variables in the data pulled from patients records, it is not worth much of anything. There is no data on the timing of when these patients where given the HCQ or if Zinc was given in conjunction with HCQ.
You realy should read more than a headline if your going to claim to know anything or have an educated opinion on a subject.

You state that I don’t know about or have an educated opinion on this subject, yet it is you that are promoting drugs for uses they were not designed for. The vast majority of scientists and medical professionals are in agreement that this drug isn’t effective for covid use, so until they change their stance I am always going with their consensus. This isn’t a conspiracy theory or partisan rant. It is just the medical communities recommendation Concerning this drug. I am not saying this drug is not in any way effective, but for now it hasn’t been proven or recommended by the broad medical community for use.

 

[DrHenley]

The vast majority of scientists and medical professionals are in agreement that this drug isn’t effective for covid use

Where did you read that?

I'm giving scientific references saying just the opposite. Where are yours?

 

[Proud Prepper]

You state that I don’t know about or have an educated opinion on this subject, yet it is you that are promoting drugs for uses they were not designed for. The vast majority of scientists and medical professionals are in agreement that this drug isn’t effective for covid use, so until they change their stance I am always going with their consensus. This isn’t a conspiracy theory or partisan rant. It is just the medical communities recommendation Concerning this drug. I am not saying this drug is not in any way effective, but for now it hasn’t been proven or recommended by the broad medical community for use.

Your opinion of this being the vast majority is completely false. You just repeated the biased leftist talking points and put some sugar on it. Do a little research and you will find the truth, it's right there hidden in plain site. It just takes some analytical thought. I dont have the time to break it all down and provide you with the evidence. If I did, it would likely be a waste of time, since your views on this seem to be a fanatical believe system.
The more convenient the ignorance and the misconceptions you hold are boasting your own misconceptions and delusions in regard to your “own high person and your group”- the stronger you will hold on to them.

 

[Danil54grl]

You state that I don’t know about or have an educated opinion on this subject, yet it is you that are promoting drugs for uses they were not designed for. The vast majority of scientists and medical professionals are in agreement that this drug isn’t effective for covid use, so until they change their stance I am always going with their consensus. This isn’t a conspiracy theory or partisan rant. It is just the medical communities recommendation Concerning this drug. I am not saying this drug is not in any way effective, but for now it hasn’t been proven or recommended by the broad medical community for use.

It also depends on what new station you are getting your information from. . . Just saying that each news station promotes what they want you to hear, so they will bring on doctors and government who are against the drug. There are a couple news stations that promote a different agenda. They bring on doctors who are for this drug. . . I really see the benefits of using hydroxychloroquine for Covid-19 patients. What I have seen for the most part are doctors finally trying it out during the last stages of illness as a last ditch effort and then losing them, saying the drug is not effective.

 

[Proud Prepper]

Brent, I'm not hear to harm you in any way, I'm here to help you and everyone else. I'm here to share my knowledge and my mistakes. I have been where you are. I have believed what people said and took it as fact if what I believed was the majority believed it. It was a logical reassuring belief. Untill I discovered this method was not always the truth. Then I discovered that these consenceses of the truth, by the so called majority was not the truth at all. The truth was there, but it was routinely being twisted and altered for reasons to control the population for nefarious goals not in the public's best interests.

I have learned to verify everything I read before deciding what I believe the truth is. The truths sometimes change. The truths are also, more often than not, different from what the so call consensus of the majority the main stream media says it is. I now take an article, analyze the key data, follow the facts to the source and verify each one, then determine the relevance of those facts.

If you would like an unbiased analysis of the articles and so called studies of HCQ in relation to covid19, I recommend peakprosperity podcasts on YouTube. You can search for keywords on what podcasts discus, I think his last 3 discus the topic of treatments including Hydroxychloriquin. Chris is not political or left or right. He looks at things in an up or down view. Positive or negative.