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Averagedude

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Hello I’m looking to get another bag, a larger one and use my older eberlestock gunslinger 2 for my wife since she needs a bag.

I like having a built in scabbard and am looking for recommendations on a pack with 4000 ci or bigger.

So let’s here it what do you have that Fits the bill. How do you like it?
 
buy another Eberlestock.....

That was my plan but I figured I would ask for other suggestions on brands that I haven’t seen.

I love eberlestock they are built to take a lot of abuse but they are some what on the heavy side for a bare pack. So just checking out options before I spend 450 bucks
 
I am a big fan of Kelty external frame packs. The Tioga is a geat pack.

I realize that external frame packs seem to be going out of fashion, but I have used mine on long backpacking trips with large loads, and they work for me.

The key is practicing with sand bags and water bottles in the pack, and hiking around your neighborhood. Gradual increase the weight in your pack, and eventually you'll be conditioned to carry large loads for long distances.

Get a specialty rain cover to match your pack.

Some external frame packs can be had for a pittance on e-bay.

Some external frame packs have a specialty pocket and straps on the side to hold a rifle.
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Good post that’s sounds like an affordable option! I will have to do some research on stap on scabbard and see if I can find one to fit my needs.

I have a 45lb rock that I use for pack weight. Looking forward to better weather and to start logging miles again. Yep that’s my excuse bad weather lol
 
Good post that’s sounds like an affordable option! I will have to do some research on stap on scabbard and see if I can find one to fit my needs.

I have a 45lb rock that I use for pack weight. Looking forward to better weather and to start logging miles again. Yep that’s my excuse bad weather lol

Thank you.

If you use a rock to train with, wrap it in a towel and tape.

I tried using a rock to train with in my nylon backpack, and the repetitive motion (rocking) of walking caused a rough corner of the rock to wear a hole
in the synthetic fabric.

I was soooo pissed off!!!

That's why I use water bottles and sandbags now.
 
Thank you.

If you use a rock to train with, wrap it in a towel and tape.

I tried using a rock to train with in my nylon backpack, and the repetitive motion (rocking) of walking caused a rough corner of the rock to wear a hole
in the synthetic fabric.

I was soooo pissed off!!!

That's why I use water bottles and sandbags now.

Yeah I wrap it in a towel and use other fillers so it doesn’t slide around!
 
4000 cubic inches is 65L, so I have a Sea to Summit Hydraulic 65L that fits your minimum size requirement.

My pros and cons will be different than yours. Unlike most packs, it is water proof all by itself. I have used it packed to float in the river, just swimming along while it floated. It has mounts that are convenient to attach an external molle panel to, and when I was using it as my main pack, I had it set up to accept a machete, the silky saw, and if I so desired, a scabbard for the AR. The shoulder straps are made in a such a way that you can attach flashlight or multitool holders. I never had a problem with it, it came from the factory adjusted to fit me, just by chance. I was happy with it. The various buckles are plastic, but the shoulder straps and waist belt attach with red aluminum webbing hooks, and would vary rarely come off the main pack when I set it down. It is obviously just one main compartment, which is what I like. I make smaller dry bags for all my gear, then label them, and I don't really have a problem finding anything inside the pack. The problem for me was size. After using it for two years, the longest trip it was on was a week, it started feeling small for my needs.

I consider it a good choice if you are on the water a lot, and don't need to carry everything in one pack, and don't mind making or buying a molle panel to expand it a bit.

I replaced it with the Seal Line Propack, which is a 7000 cubic inch pack, I can literally set it down and get in it. It is an internal frame pack, but the internal frame is just a sheet of plastic, and will flex if you stuff the pack full, but so far hasn't been a problem. I had to take out the internal frame sheet, and trim it to make it possible to adjust the shoulder straps to my torso length. It is much more difficult to add an external molle panel too, because of its design, but I did and I'm pretty happy with the result. It is huge, and with all my base gear, and food and water, there is still room left over, even more so with the machete and saw and water mounted on the outside. If I wanted to add the rifle scabbard, I would need to add some mounting points to the bag, I will be doing this soon. Once it is adjusted it feels great. You can replace the plastic waist buckle with a Cobra Dring (I did) and the waist belt itself seems to be easy to put a pistol holster on, as long as it has a clip, not a holster that you need to run a belt through. I can just get to camp, dump it, and use it collect firewood and water, or grass or bedding. It easy to clean. To me it seems a lot more multi purpose than a pack with a lot of zippers and compartments. I think it was $150?

Either way, I wouldn't go back to a non waterproof pack. Some of the places I camp are on islands, and I can get dropped of at the road, and walk out to the river, and swim right over no problems, no changes or separate bags to put my pack in. Rain is never an issue. The Propack is meant to be a Portaging pack, so big loads, but for a short distance. But I use it as a hiking pack.

I haven't owned a pack as nice as an Eberlestock. So I can't speak on that.
 
Maybe I'm the weird one. I plan to only need mine for about 3 to 4 days only, and I damn sure don't want to carry a campsite on my back. As long as it has the essentials I need to get home, I'm good.

Also, I don't want a look that screams "Hey, look at that dude, he's got all kinds of good gear I bet!"..... I want something more like, "hey, guy looks like a guy going home from the office with his laptop backpack"

So, I just get a cheap one from Wally World, that has some decent pockets, etc. So far, it's been fine. I use an identical one at theme parks all the time, and they've held up really well. Spent $15 for each.

(I used to have a clear plastic backpack for theme parks, because I hated the delay by security checks, but when they started even searching that, I'm like screw it...)

Life's too short to dwell on doom and gloom folks. My wife and I are just two big kids most of the time....
 
Thread got a little off topic.

Original question was 4000 cubic inches pack, hopefully with rifle scabbard, what have you got?

I don't have a pack that has a built in scabbard. The only two I have seen IRL are the Eberlestock Gunslinger, and the a Mystery Ranch pack, but the scabbard was from a custom maker, built to look like original equipment. Basically the same thing I did with my pack.

I like packs, and gear. I don't think its doom and gloom to ask questions about pack options, or answer, and honestly stuff like this is one of the reasons I am on a prepper site, and not a A.T. or P.C.T. through hike forum.

If the question had been about grey man pack options, my answer would have been different. I've never been to a theme park lol. I don't know how to relate that to a question about personal experience with a large pack/rifle scabbard combo.

Something that does relate to your post, Gazrok, years ago I bought a Walmart pack, and it survived a truly ridiculous length of time, and was abused like the cheap gear that it was. Somehow, that thing was... only word that comes to mind is heroic!
 
http://www.mysteryranch.com/overload-pack

The Mystery Ranch packs are super expensive, that one is $700!! I have touched and smelled Mystery Ranch packs. Great quality.

https://store.kifaru.net/packs-c15.aspx

There are a couple kifaru packs in your size range, that would be easy to mount on a frame of your choosing if you didn't want the added expense of one of Kifaru's pack frames. Any of the ones with molle webbing would mount a scabbard, and I don't think there is rifle out there that someone hasn't made a molle scabbard for.

https://www.amazon.com/Military-Tac...qid=1516666973&sr=8-21&keywords=gun+backpacks

At the other end of the price spectrum, this one from Amazon, but man I don't know. It would cost me more in materials and shipping to DIY that pack, than they are charging for it. I would look for zipper failures and seam blow-outs on that bag, but you just never know.
 
It might work out fine. I had a Free Knight "3 day assault pack" that I picked up for next to nothing, and it wasn't a bad bag. I used it with some taped up steel plates for rucking, but gave it to Goodwill when we started to downsize. I think there are a few Chinese companies making these bags in a mega factory, and then lots of individual sellers putting them on the market.

I just don't want to put you onto a bag that fails, I would feel bad. :)
 
I’m sure they are not the best but could be a good option for someone.

I have come to the conclusion that I would rather save up and by the quality gear over the junk.
 
Maybe I'm the weird one. I plan to only need mine for about 3 to 4 days only, and I damn sure don't want to carry a campsite on my back. As long as it has the essentials I need to get home, I'm good.

Also, I don't want a look that screams "Hey, look at that dude, he's got all kinds of good gear I bet!"..... I want something more like, "hey, guy looks like a guy going home from the office with his laptop backpack"

So, I just get a cheap one from Wally World, that has some decent pockets, etc. So far, it's been fine. I use an identical one at theme parks all the time, and they've held up really well. Spent $15 for each.

(I used to have a clear plastic backpack for theme parks, because I hated the delay by security checks, but when they started even searching that, I'm like screw it...)

Life's too short to dwell on doom and gloom folks. My wife and I are just two big kids most of the time....
For the one who decides to rob you of the quality of your outfit does not matter. They are being robbed simply because they can do it. It is not rare that everything taken away is simply thrown into the garbage.
As evidenced by the residents of the occupied territories, people are divided into 2 types:
1. Those who have the assault AK-47;
2. Those who have people with AK-47 hug their property.
In this case, as a rule, everything is not limited to robbery. A victim is usually beaten or beaten first and then raped. Depending on the mood and sympathy of people with AK-47.
 
The point is underestimating, and them making stupid mistakes they may not otherwise make if stalking a target they deemed more of a threat.
 

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