Urban Bugging in

[carhugger_prep]

I was just curious about this. What are the best things to do for security, food, and water in a urban situation?

There is a forest about 10 yards from my front door so I need to brush up on my plants and get a .22 LR for the deer I have seen. There are 5 small pounds in my neighborhood and a creek down the road.

 

[Silent Earth]

Plan and Recce, Identify and note food stores, food warehouses, food distribution centres, wild foods growing on wasteland. Note sources of water from leisure pools, ornamental lakes, water storage tanks, fire fighting roof top reservoirs, note locations were ferel pigeon, rabbit or other local critters live etc Set up water catchement systems for rainwater and runoff, rooftop traps for birds, ponds for breeding fish in etc.

 

[carhugger_prep]

Well I have done a few of those.

 

[Silent Earth]

Then Sir you are a wise man.

 

[carhugger_prep]

Then Sir you are a wise man.

I edited my first post but I will say it again in case that you didn't see it. There is a forest about 10 yards from my front door so I need to brush up on my plants and get a .22 LR or bigger gun for the deer I have seen, I just have a .38 revolver so getting a bigger gun is a necessity. There are 5 small pounds in my neighborhood and a creek down the road.

 

[jimLE]

you mentioned the forest...might look into it for sniper positions..this way 1 or 2 ppl can set up there as sniper(s)..lets say its decided that 2 of you set up as snipers.stand at the left corner of the house.then look straight across to the forest.any area to the left of there will be good for a sniper..then do the same for the right corner..but look to the right instead.who ever is at the left side shots across the front of the house.and who ever is to the right side does the same..this way neither one shots directly at the house.and the enemy will be caught in a cross fire..and might look into sniper positions for the back of the house as well..

 

[Silent Earth]

I edited my first post but I will say it again in case that you didn't see it. There is a forest about 10 yards from my front door so I need to brush up on my plants and get a .22 LR or bigger gun for the deer I have seen, I just have a .38 revolver so getting a bigger gun is a necessity. There are 5 small pounds in my neighborhood and a creek down the road.


Then sir you are a wise man with a plan, the definition of a prepper, I'm sure some of the gun owners here will advise you, but if I was choosing a 22 it would probably the ruger 10/22 TDR.

As for the creeks and ponds that's the water issue sorted so long as yu have a devent water filter to hand like a Berky or Berkfield

 

[Maverick]

I was just curious about this. What are the best things to do for security, food, and water in a urban situation?

There is a forest about 10 yards from my front door so I need to brush up on my plants and get a .22 LR for the deer I have seen. There are 5 small pounds in my neighborhood and a creek down the road.

Get water/ecology quality reports from your local environmental agency also take note on the source of the water, how many people live up stream, was there ever a smelter plant, chemical plants near the creek etc.. that is now developed residential, all these things have to be answered before that creek can be trusted for anything including the ponds!

 

[bigpaul]

brush up on your snares and traps, get a book on foraging for your particular region and get to know and be able to identify wild food plants, if you cant afford a Berkeley at least get something like a Sawyer mini water filter.(which is small enough for you to carry)..not all water sources will be pure. do you have any food stores? if not start now.

 

[Gazrok]

Animals you can easily keep in an Urban setting: Rabbits, Chickens
Thing about hunting a deer (or rabbit) that often they'll still run a bit after shot. Tracking them down can be the hard part.
Be ready to expand the palette a bit (like frogs, snake, pigeon, rats, insects, etc.). When it comes to taste or starvation, 10 out of 10 people choose to ignore taste. (and I've heard that rat is actually pretty tasty if cooked well)

Rain catchment is a decent water collection system to use in an Urban setting, but lots of unexpected foraging solutions too. Garden hoses, hot water heaters, toilet tanks (not bowls), are all pretty common places in homes to find water. You can even grow lots of small potted plants and veggies to eat too.

Biggest worry in an urban setting is going to be staying hidden from the gangs that will no doubt be looting and running around in cities. That and sanitation conditions (imagine a city sewer system with nobody manning the station) will be your biggest threats no doubt.

 

[bigpaul]

sewage systems in large towns and especially cities in the UK are all electrically powered, once the power goes off the pumping stations don't pump. in a SHTF event in a city your main problem is getting rid of bodily waste especially where you cant bury it or compost it, apartments, inner city etc.

 

[jontte]

keep a 10 liter plastic bucket at hand with a bundle of plastic bags,that's your make shift toilet...have a tight lid to it also..

 

[Silent Earth]

I have already dug a soak away at the bottom of my garden filled with gravel and I have two portable BLACK black water tanks from a camping store plus a proper camping toilet with separate clean and dirty water tanks.
This is the company I use, a decent and inexpensive proper porta potti that saves on smells and accidental spillages which could be a major bummer if the bucket gets knocked over when the house is in lock down .

http://www.thetford-europe.com/product-category/toilets/portable-toilets/

Oh yes before I forget I highly recommend a small (even home made) galvanised metal incinerator bin ( trash can) for burning paper waste ( toilet paper, wipes, baby wipes, diapers, sanitary towels etc) which can be normally set up near any soak away you dig.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=galvanised incinerator bin&tag=googhydr-21&index=aps&hvadid=25090659246&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17881960933169776526&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_4slcfbz0o_b

 

[bigpaul]

keep a 10 liter plastic bucket at hand with a bundle of plastic bags,that's your make shift toilet...have a tight lid to it also..

make shift yes, short term yes, what do you do with the buckets when they are full? how many can you store in a city apartment? at some point you've got to take a risk and empty them somewhere-that's the risky part.

 

[jimLE]

i lived across the street from a sewage lift station for 2-3 years..never had a problem with it,untill the transformer went out for it..100% raw sewage flowed across neighbor's yard untill they managed to come out and fix it..only good thing about that..is it got fertilized real good..lol

 

[bigpaul]

I live quite a way uphill from the local pumping station, i'll be able to hear when the pumps go out from the screams further down the hill!!

 

[jimLE]

then they'll come to you,just to use the toliet...lol

 

[bigpaul]

then they'll come to you,just to use the toliet...lol

like I'm going to open the door??

 

[jontte]

bigpaul, only short term solution..know that..have a place about 150yds away where to "store" these bags...

 

[Warriorhealer22]

If I may point out, you will be in an urban area, with all the other people living there! Even if none are violent it will be a drain on all local resources. Your 38 pistol will do you well, but learn how to use it! Does anyone here want Jerry Miculik on their bad side? For urban hunting a good pellet rifle is a good idea. Get to know your neighbors as many may be useful and even have the same mentality. Have an escape plan.