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The Worldometer website shows 69,921 corononvirus deaths as of the same date, May 4th. These totals are nearly two times the number of deaths reported by the CDC.

Worldometer uses the numbers from each state's official web site (which they give links to). Most state web sites are fairly up-to-date, with maybe one or two day lag at the most. Worldometer updates their page almost immediately when the state web site is updated. (maybe five minute lag at most)

The CDC does not do this at all, they count the deaths themselves from data submitted to the National Vital Statistics System, which can be weeks behind the state web sites.

See this CDC web site for a full explanation of how they collect data:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/covid-19.htm
"The provisional counts for coronavirus disease (COVID-19) deaths are based on a current flow of mortality data in the National Vital Statistics System. National provisional counts include deaths occurring within the 50 states and the District of Columbia that have been received and coded as of the date specified. It is important to note that it can take several weeks for death records to be submitted to National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), processed, coded, and tabulated. Therefore, the data shown on this page may be incomplete, and will likely not include all deaths that occurred during a given time period, especially for the more recent time periods. Death counts for earlier weeks are continually revised and may increase or decrease as new and updated death certificate data are received from the states by NCHS. COVID-19 death counts shown here may differ from other published sources, as data currently are lagged by an average of 1–2 weeks."
 
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BTW, I think New York is shooting themselves in the foot with their overcounting. This will do irreparable harm to the Big Apple's image. Right now, NYC appears to be the unhealthiest place on earth and the overcounting just makes it look worse.
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https://nypost.com/2020/04/29/these-new-yorkers-fleeing-coronavirus-vow-theyll-never-return/
These New Yorkers fleeing coronavirus vow they’ll never return

 
https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN22G19C

Exclusive: Internal Chinese report warns Beijing faces Tiananmen-like global backlash over virus
An internal Chinese report warns that Beijing faces a rising wave of hostility in the wake of the coronavirus outbreak that could tip relations with the United States into confrontation, people familiar with the paper told Reuters.

The report, presented early last month by the Ministry of State Security to top Beijing leaders including President Xi Jinping, concluded that global anti-China sentiment is at its highest since the 1989 Tiananmen Square crackdown, the sources said.

As a result, Beijing faces a wave of anti-China sentiment led by the United States in the aftermath of the pandemic and needs to be prepared in a worst-case scenario for armed confrontation between the two global powers, according to people familiar with the report's content, who declined to be identified given the sensitivity of the matter.
 
BTW, I think New York is shooting themselves in the foot with their overcounting. This will do irreparable harm to the Big Apple's image. Right now, NYC appears to be the unhealthiest place on earth and the overcounting just makes it look worse.
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https://nypost.com/2020/04/29/these-new-yorkers-fleeing-coronavirus-vow-theyll-never-return/
These New Yorkers fleeing coronavirus vow they’ll never return


Totally with you on that assessment! And it isn’t the illegals or poor leaving...it’s the ones paying the taxes.
 
COVID-19 Statistics as of 6 May 2020
I've added Recovery Rate, which is the opposite of deaths/(deaths+recoveries)
Recovery rate has steadily been climbing for weeks, which is a good sign. It means a higher percentage of people are recovering instead of dying.

212 Countries reporting 3,752,682 confirmed cases and 259,362 deaths
USA reporting 1,238,083 (+25,073 +2%) confirmed cases and 72,285 (+2,360 +3%) deaths
Excluding China and Iran:
Confirmed: 3,568,149 (+83,092 +2.4%)
Deaths: 248,311 (+6,131 +2.5%)
Recoveries: 1,096,738 (+45,606 +4.3%)
Deaths/(Deaths+Recoveries): 18.5% (-0.2)
Recovery Rate: Recoveries/(Deaths+Recoveries) = 81.5%

Countries/States with 10,000 deaths or more.

Country....Deaths...Increase.....Deaths/Million
USA........72,285 . (+2,360 +3%) . 218
Italy..... 29,315
. (+236 +1%) ... 485
UK........ 29,427 . (+693 +2%) ... 433
Spain..... 25,857 . (+244 +1%) ... 553
France.... 25,531 . (+330 +1%) ... 391
New York.. 25,204 . (+260 +1%) . 1,285

Countries/States with 200 deaths per million or more

.. Country/State...Deaths per Million Population
.. 1 New York..... 1,285
.. 2 San Marino... 1,208
.. 3 Belgium........ 720
.. 4 Andorra........ 595
.. 5 Spain.......... 553
.. 6 Italy.......... 485
.. 7 UK............. 433
.. 8 France......... 391
.. 9 Sint Maarten... 327
. 10
Netherlands.... 304
. 11 Sweden ........ 291
. 12 Isle of Man.... 270
. 13 Ireland........ 267
. 14 Channel Islands 230
. 15 USA ........... 218
. 16 Switzerland.... 207
. 17 Montserrat..... 200
 
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COVID-19 Statistics as of 7 May 2020

212 Countries reporting 3,846,924 confirmed cases and 265,885 deaths
USA reporting 1,263,634 (+25,551 +3%) confirmed cases and 74,810 (+2,525 +3%) deaths
Excluding China and Iran:
Confirmed: 3,660,904 (+92,755 +2.6%)
Deaths: 254,766 (+6,455 +2.6%)
Recoveries: 1,155,017 (+58,279 +5.3%)
Deaths/(Deaths+Recoveries): 18.1% (-0.4)
Recovery Rate: Recoveries/(Deaths+Recoveries) = 81.9%

Countries/States with 10,000 deaths or more.

Country....Deaths...Increase.....Deaths/Million
USA....... 74,810
. (+2,525 +3%) . 226
Italy..... 29,684 . (+369 +1%) ... 491
UK........ 30,076 . (+649 +2%) ... 443
Spain..... 26,070 . (+213 +1%) ... 558
New York.. 25,956 . (+752 +3%) . 1,323
France.... 25,809 . (+278 +1%) ... 395

Countries/States with 200 deaths per million or more

.. Country/State...Deaths per Million Population
.. 1 New York..... 1,323
.. 2 San Marino... 1,208
.. 3 Belgium........ 726
.. 4 Andorra........ 595
.. 5 Spain.......... 558
.. 6 Italy.......... 491
.. 7 UK............. 443
.. 8 France......... 395
.. 9 Sint Maarten... 327
. 10
Netherlands.... 309
. 11 Sweden ........ 301
. 12 Ireland........ 278
. 13 Isle of Man.... 270
. 14 Channel Islands 230
. 15 USA ........... 226
. 16 Switzerland.... 209
. 17 Montserrat..... 200
 
COVID-19 Statistics as of 6 May 2020
USA reporting 1,238,083 (+25,073 +2%) confirmed cases and 72,285 (+2,360 +3%) deaths

That's around a 6% mortality rate. CLEARLY we need more testing, as I believe millions more have had it and didn't even know. Knowing the real numbers would allow better decisions. We HAVE to get back to work, or EVERYONE suffers catastrophe. Just mandate face masks, and infection should still go down, while the economy gets back to working. Seems pretty easy to me.

This guy claims three positive test in two months, so does that count as three cases?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/houston-man-tests-positive-coronavirus-213813285.html
 
`What we need is more serological antibody testing. The tests for active COVID-19 have all sorts of problems. For one, if they take a swab from your nose or throat, that only tells you if the virus is active in your nose or throat. It could be in your lungs, heart, blood, intestines, etc. and show a negative in your upper respiratory system.

Serological tests for antibodies are not perfect but they are more reliable than a swab test.
 
`What we need is more serological antibody testing. The tests for active COVID-19 have all sorts of problems. For one, if they take a swab from your nose or throat, that only tells you if the virus is active in your nose or throat. It could be in your lungs, heart, blood, intestines, etc. and show a negative in your upper respiratory system.

Serological tests for antibodies are not perfect but they are more reliable than a swab test.

Do you know if the new saliva tests are any good?
 
"As a result, Beijing faces a wave of anti-China sentiment led by the United States in the aftermath of the pandemic and needs to be prepared in a worst-case scenario for armed confrontation between the two global powers, according to people familiar with the report's content, who declined to be identified given the sensitivity of the matter."

This concerns me MUCH more than the virus. Not just any two global power, but Nuclear Global Powers! In this case, there does not appear to be any disputed land so where would this ARMED conflict occur? IMHO, this is just more posturing. Whether they admit it or not, both counties are highly dependent on each other and a full out war would really hurt both countries with nothing to be gained by either side.
 
Vitamin D levels may impact COVID-19 mortality rates, study claims...

Researchers have discovered a strong correlation between vitamin D deficiency and mortality rates from the novel coronavirus, a new study reveals.

A research team led by Northwestern University analyzed data from hospitals and clinics across China, France, Germany, Italy, Iran, South Korea, Spain, Switzerland, the United Kingdom and the United States.

Patients from countries with high COVID-19 mortality rates, such as Italy, Spain and the United Kingdom, had lower levels of vitamin D compared to patients in countries that were not as severely affected, according to the study.

The researchers also found a strong correlation between vitamin D levels and cytokine storm, which is a hyperinflammatory condition caused by an overactive immune system.

"Cytokine storm can severely damage lungs and lead to acute respiratory distress syndrome and death in patients," Ali Daneshkhah, a postdoctoral research associate at Northwestern's McCormick School of Engineering, said in a statement. "This is what seems to kill a majority of COVID-19 patients, not the destruction of the lungs by the virus itself. It is the complications from the misdirected fire from the immune system."

 
You know it just occurred to me that when people go into the ICU with COVID-19, they don't get any sunlight. And your body produces Vitamin D in the presence of sunlight. This could possible be one reason people go downhill quickly after going into the ICU.

It is the UVB (290–315 nm wavelength) ultraviolet light in sunlight that your body needs to produce Vitamin D, so exposure to UVB light will serve the same purpose as getting exposure to sunlight.
 
COVID-19 Statistics as of 8 May 2020

212 Countries reporting 3,947,818 confirmed cases and 271,719 deaths
USA reporting 1,293,905 (+30,271 +2%) confirmed cases and 76,996 (+2,186 +3%) deaths
Excluding China and Iran:
Confirmed: 3,760,241 (+99,337 +2.7%)
Deaths: 259,996 (+5,230 +2.1%)
Recoveries: 1,196,439 (+41,422 +3.6%)
Deaths/(Deaths+Recoveries): 18.2% (+0.1)
Recovery Rate: Recoveries/(Deaths+Recoveries) = 81.8% (-0.1)

Countries/States with 10,000 deaths or more.

Country....Deaths...Increase.....Deaths/Million
USA....... 76,996
. (+2,186 +3%) . 233
UK........ 30,615 . (+539 +2%) ... 451

Italy..... 29,958 . (+274 +1%) ... 495
New York.. 26,365 . (+409 +2%) . 1,344

Spain..... 26,299 . (+229 +1%) ... 562
France.... 25,987 . (+178 +1%) ... 398

Countries/States with 200 deaths per million or more

.. Country/State...Deaths per Million Population
.. 1 New York..... 1,344
.. 2 San Marino... 1,208
.. 3 Belgium........ 735
.. 4 Andorra........ 595
.. 5 Spain.......... 562
.. 6 Italy.......... 495
.. 7 UK............. 451
.. 8 France......... 398
.. 9 Sint Maarten... 327
. 10
Netherlands.... 313
. 11 Sweden ........ 314
. 12 Ireland........ 284
. 13 Isle of Man.... 270
. 14 Channel Islands 230
. 15 USA ........... 233
. 16 Switzerland.... 209
. 17 Montserrat..... 200
 
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You know it just occurred to me that when people go into the ICU with COVID-19, they don't get any sunlight. And your body produces Vitamin D in the presence of sunlight. This could possible be one reason people go downhill quickly after going into the ICU.

It is the UVB (290–315 nm wavelength) ultraviolet light in sunlight that your body needs to produce Vitamin D, so exposure to UVB light will serve the same purpose as getting exposure to sunlight.


We dont need studies, we know vitamin C supports immune system, D is an anti inflammatory, Zinc stops replication of viruses. We need to have everyone taking these vitamins.

ICU is a delayed death chamber. Our Doctors and hospitals cant see the Forrest (cause of disease) through the trees (symptoms of the disease)
 
We dont need studies, we know vitamin C supports immune system, D is an anti inflammatory, Zinc stops replication of viruses. We need to have everyone taking these vitamins.

ICU is a delayed death chamber. Our Doctors and hospitals cant see the Forrest (cause of disease) through the trees (symptoms of the disease)

Very succinctly said Rellgar!
 

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