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huYeah, I understand, this is the wrong audience in general.

But like you all, I have primary storage. But I also think it would be smart to have a 2nd plan.

When disaster hits, the reality is farmers have surplus, and city people are starving (e.g. Bolshevik Revolution ), because no one is buying, so not sure how 10,000 years of food storage would benfit me.

All those underground bunkers companies aren't much better either because they all have a limited food supply.

Urban farms and storage are among the riskiest ideas out there. Gangs are likely to go door to door.

This is not a govt. program. In fact, maybe should set it up as a coop. You own the food. It would be there 24x7x365.

Yes, I am aware of the clause, which also states things like controlling all labor, and probably conscription:
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2012-03-22/pdf/2012-7019.pdf

and the history of govt property grabs is documented:
independent.org/publications/article.asp?id=48

Anyways, no point in beating a dead horse, so here's another angle:

What about selling plots of farmland (e.g. 0.25 acre), since that would seem to feed about one person (but number is based on large scale ag. methods); but legally its unfeasible to just subdivide farms like that, so maybe selling it more as a farm land rental makes sense. E.g. reserve 1/4 acre of land for $100/mo. Exact acreage depends completely on the farm land productivity, but you get the idea. Additionally, for higher amount, you would get each years crop sent to you as well.

Is this a better idea?

Then maybe even add a shelter with micro-beds (e.g. like Japanese capsule hotel).

So, really no good safety solutions, unless you are in the Alaskan wilderness.
 
huYeah, I understand, this is the wrong audience in general.

But like you all, I have primary storage. But I also think it would be smart to have a 2nd plan.

When disaster hits, the reality is farmers have surplus, and city people are starving (e.g. Bolshevik Revolution ), because no one is buying, so not sure how 10,000 years of food storage would benfit me.

All those underground bunkers companies aren't much better either because they all have a limited food supply.

Urban farms and storage are among the riskiest ideas out there. Gangs are likely to go door to door.

This is not a govt. program. In fact, maybe should set it up as a coop. You own the food. It would be there 24x7x365.

Yes, I am aware of the clause, which also states things like controlling all labor, and probably conscription:
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2012-03-22/pdf/2012-7019.pdf

and the history of govt property grabs is documented:
independent.org/publications/article.asp?id=48

Anyways, no point in beating a dead horse, so here's another angle:

What about selling plots of farmland (e.g. 0.25 acre), since that would seem to feed about one person (but number is based on large scale ag. methods); but legally its unfeasible to just subdivide farms like that, so maybe selling it more as a farm land rental makes sense. E.g. reserve 1/4 acre of land for $100/mo. Exact acreage depends completely on the farm land productivity, but you get the idea. Additionally, for higher amount, you would get each years crop sent to you as well.

Is this a better idea?

Then maybe even add a shelter with micro-beds (e.g. like Japanese capsule hotel).

So, really no good safety solutions, unless you are in the Alaskan wilderness.
I guess the next question is, where are these ideas coming from? What's the point. . . either people will prep or they won't. A quarter acre of farmland won't feed anyone who doesn't know how to grow crops.
 
I think most people think too large when thinking of growing land post SHTF, which is an occupational hazard when talking about America because the country is so big compared to "Blighty"(Britain).
i'm not thinking about acres and acres of land, would be nice, but it a Post SHTF world we will only be able to grow on the size of land we can manage and control.
I think that, especially in Britain, any growing will be of the subsistence variety, and plots of land will be small, too big and they attract unwanted attention, large growing areas will be seen for miles around.
i'm working more on the size of the traditional British "Allotment" or vegetable garden, the average size of which is 120ft by 25ft or 250 square yards, I have had several of these allotments in my lifetime, sometimes full plots sometimes half plots and it is surprising just how much one can grow on one of these plots, depending on the size of one's group or family multiples could be managed if the labour is available and especially if successive sowing and planting is done.
 
You can raise/store a lot of your own food on the hoof too.
And maybe even better, is food stored in ponds. I have a one acre pond stocked with channel catfish that are fed daily during the warm season. In that small pond there are a few thousand pounds of meat that reproduces and replaces itself... if managed properly.

Then of course you have chickens, which grow incredibly quick, reproduce in huge numbers, provide almost an egg a day when young and taste mighty fine when older. That is one food source that can be ramped up very rapidly after a crisis, with just a little planning. Only takes 8-12 weeks to raise a meat bird to maturity. My flock would go from 6 birds to over a hundred during the first few months. I even store a dc powered incubator just for this purpose.
 
What about selling plots of farmland (e.g. 0.25 acre), since that would seem to feed about one person (but number is based on large scale ag. methods); but legally its unfeasible to just subdivide farms like that, so maybe selling it more as a farm land rental makes sense. E.g. reserve 1/4 acre of land for $100/mo. Exact acreage depends completely on the farm land productivity, but you get the idea. Additionally, for higher amount, you would get each years crop sent to you as well.

Is this a better idea?
Simple answer, no.
 

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