Failing Dam triggers 180,000 folk to Bug Out

[Silent Earth]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...am-threatens-to-flood/?utm_term=.6eb64134ab62

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/12/us/california-oroville-dam-failure/index.html

Gentlemen here is a perfect example of the chaos that can and is being caused when local authorities order everyone to bug out within and hour. UK media reported total traffic chaos and gridlock in places.

if bugging out is part of your plans then consider this scene and those chaotic scenes caused during H Andrew and Katrina where hundreds of thousands got stranded in gridlocked traffic.

Your bug out routes should not include major highways

 

[Silent Earth]

Update. Snippets from UK BBC

Police reporting many of the 188,000 told to flee are running out of fuel and carrying no extra supplies..

Many others reporting they have neither food, water, clothing etc and more than a few have no money with them .

Fuel stations are almost out or are out of fuel.

Military is setting up camps for refugees and deploying Military Police to help LEOs

One women reports she fled with her three teenage daughters, one brought her I phone, another brought her school artwork and the third 12 pairs of pyjamas, Mum reported they had little in supplies , fuel or food.

Online reports some folks who have fled who pull off the road onto private property are being ordered to leave, whilst in one area the local SIKH community are oening up their homes to complete strangers to provide food and shelter.

 

[Silent Earth]

Got to ask but what sort of dumbass lives under a dam in an area prone to massive quakes and irregular weather?

 

[Roninsensei]

The dam is the largest in the USA and the people that bought those homes were told it isn't possible for it to break. I know because I'm currently housing three families, my cousins, who were evacuated. They are now asking me about prepping..lol. The reality of this dam actually going is low also, the dam itself isn't in danger in the case of earthquake. The real problem is the spill way has been broken now for years and the gov has done nothing about it. Well the unseasonal rain has owned these idiots and most of the people in the valley are now victims of their lack of action.

 

[jontte]

you prolly got some prepping converts

just hope that spill way isn't going to breake and they can return home...possibly as sensible family members that are prepping.

 

[Silent Earth]

The dam is the largest in the USA and the people that bought those homes were told it isn't possible for it to break..

like those who were told the twin towers would not fail so stay in your offices ?

 

[DrHenley]

The water level has now dropped below the lip of the emergency spillway. They have dodged the bullet for now, but more rain is coming.

12 years ago Federal and State officials were told that the earthen emergency spillway could collapse if water actually flowed over it. They refused to take action because it would "cost too much."

Federal officials at the time said that the emergency spillway was designed to handle 350,000 CFS (cubic feet per second), so there was nothing to worry about.

It started crumbling at 12,000 CFS.

OOPS!

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/02/...tate-officials-ignored-warnings-12-years-ago/

 

[Maverick]

The water level has now dropped below the lip of the emergency spillway. They have dodged the bullet for now, but more rain is coming.

12 years ago Federal and State officials were told that the earthen emergency spillway could collapse if water actually flowed over it. They refused to take action because it would "cost too much."

Federal officials at the time said that the emergency spillway was designed to handle 350,000 CFS (cubic feet per second), so there was nothing to worry about.

It started crumbling at 12,000 CFS.

OOPS!

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/02/...tate-officials-ignored-warnings-12-years-ago/

Damn! how the hell do these people make a 338,000 CFS mistake. That's a hell of an engineering mistake, not only in the calculations but design, let the finger pointing begin.

Just like the last two times, nothing will be done and again the State and the people will fall victim to complacency.

In the report: "FERC did not require the state to upgrade the emergency spillway."

 

[jontte]

nice little calculating error.....geeeeeez.
seems like alot of engineering skill has gone lost,if same kind of mistakes had been done with the great pyramid of Giza it would be rubble by now..

 

[Maverick]

The bottom line, the Feds and the State didn't learn a damn thing from the failures of the levees in New Orleans 2005. As in 2005 the Feds knew there were problem before hand, no difference than in the Oroville dam, they known before hand. And now, 12 years later..... Excuses 'too expensive'

Hmm, so we take in these immigrants, how much taxes goes into helping? SIPP/Census Bureau data 2012 reporting 8.3 legal/illegal immigrants are on some form of public assistance. If we say just 1 million get public assistance at $400 a month for housing medical education and food that's $4,800,000,000 for one year. So when I hear public officials say 'it's too costly for repairs' to prevent a catastrophe I really wonder where the priorities are and I call BS.

 

[Silent Earth]

You expect a GOVERNMENT to learn lessons ??? Boy are you in for lots of disappointment.

 

[DrHenley]

Oroville Dam emergency spillway before (from Google Earth) and after:

 

[bigpaul]

its very similar to all those people that buy properties on flood plains and never expect to get flooded.....yeah, right.

 

[Silent Earth]

California, the home of collective dumbassery

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4221808/Officials-warned-Oroville-Dam-12-years-ago.html

 

[bigpaul]

the trouble with mass evacuations, and SE and I have talked about this for years, it that pretty soon the roads will get blocked, with abandoned cars, run out of fuel( people in this country run their cars until the fuel guage reads empty and only then look for a fill ing station) or had a traffic accident, pretty soon the roads will look like a huge parking lot, nobody carries enough food or water so soon they will be suffering as a result, and how many in the sat nav age carry a compass or a paper map of where they are going?

 

[Marv.Schmitz87]

Should've taken the millions CA spent on illegal immigrants and spend it on that dam...

 

[bigpaul]

probably used crap cement.

 

[drt4lfe]

8 years of funding illegals, muslims and arming terrorists should have been spent elsewhere.....

 

[bigpaul]

just seen a report in a newspaper that says they use the "patch and pray" method!!

 

[Maverick]

just seen a report in a newspaper that says they use the "patch and pray" method!!

Cali has a big storm moving in tonight and are hoping (praying) the patch work will hold, they released a lot of water from the lake and they hoping they won't need either of the spillway's (primary/emergency spillways) It was the primary spillway that was damaged and temporarily repaired.