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Economic collapse 2014

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by DavyRocket, Nov 8, 2013.

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    Gerald Celente is saying the economy very well could collapse sometime after the first quater of 2014. (March 2014) The reason why is because the "To big to fail" banks, Wall Street, and the BIG Corps do not want it to collapse before the "Holiday season". You know... So they can MAKE more money during that time, and it really kind of makes sense, since the Fed Gov suspended the debt limit until Feb 2014. Gerald Celente is the owner of Trends Journal. He is very well respected by many. I have listened to him for a few years now, and he has been spot on about most everything he says. I trust what he says. No this is not an advertisement. I am just saying I trust what he has to say. He may be Italian, but he is a true Italian American patriot!




    So what will happen after the collapse, or what is the reason for it? What will happen is United States of America, Canada, South America will become one nation called "North American Union" or NAU, Just the same as The Eurozone. China, Japan, and other Asian countries will all unite as well to become an Asian Union. Africa, and middle Eastern countries will unite? Back at home, we will have a new currency called "Amero". This is why there is little concern about border control. The problem is, is WE AMERICAN'S will not stand for it. They know this. This is why they are also preparing. Hence - DHS purchasing 2 billion+ rounds of ammo, Russian, Chinese, other military personal are training here. HENCE - Obama's "Civilian Police", also why he has fired over 200 high ranking military personal. 9 within 1 month. Obama declares martial law, and the 2nd Revolutionary war begins . All this has been talked about for quite a few years now. I have said several times that I believe Obama will remain in power well passed 2016. In other words there will be no more "voting", there will be no more US Constitution, Declaration of Independence. All that will be replaced with the UN Constitution. I also believe we will no longer have a Congress, or Senate. I may be wrong on that part, but given the "Civil War" (On the surface) between both parties, and the Conservative's it kinda makes sense. Obama will then become Ruler over the North American Union. Remember.... He did say that he will "Systematically" change America. He is the Chosen one by the elite. He, just like Hitler were designed to carry out the "Illuminati" Agenda 21 plan, or New World Order, and no, he is NOT "The Anti Christ". Yes, he is a Communist Muslim. The question is, and this is the "Gray area" for me. Will we be defeated, or will we win? I like to think we will win. If we win a HUGE "false flag" will take place. Much worse than 9/11/2001. China, and Russia could then strike us, or we could see "small" dirty bombs (Nuclear) go off in several big cities like NY, Chicago, LA, Atlanta. Again this is the gray area for me. This is also the Scenario I see happening. Please feel free to help fill in the gaps, or add what you think might happen. Keep in mind, this is all leading up to the main NWO plan. The World War 3, one world Gov, Currency, religion, Mark of the beast (RFID chip), Anti Christ. The best thing we can do is LOVE GOD first, ALWAYS keep your faith in GOD, repent of your sins, ask God for Guidance when needed. Most of all do not be afraid him, or what is to come, and also DO NOT be afraid to FIGHT, and DIE trying to save the future of United States of America, and everything our founding fathers also fought, and died for... FREEDOM!!!

    Also to get a better understanding about all this watch, and listen to this video. It is long, but VERY informative. I am not an Economist, and I do not claim to be, and yeah I am abit of a slow learner, but this video makes it very clear to understand. Also PLEASE do not take my word for it, like others say... Do your own research. Search about the North American Union, Amero. All the data I have listened to, read, drawn my own conclusion's is what led me to the scenario I mentioned above. I know there are gray area's, but this is basically what I believe will happen, and what to expect in the coming days/months/years.



    I love you ALL, good or bad. Good Luck to us all, and GOD BLESS you all.
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    One day you will hear " In order to save the country " or some other Hollywood produced , choreographed , govt. lie ....................Systemic failure, economic collapse..........How and why ? It won't matter . Nothing will defer the well planned sentinel event. Just know it will happen quickly.............. Hope and pray for the best , expect the worst.............and prep for the ensuing chaos...................Power to the preppers !
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    Watched about half of the second video and was pretty much left in disbelief... I knew the situation was bad, but man, those guys made it pretty clear this is a crash course and when the bottom falls out, it's going to go fast. All the better reason to be prepared..
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    I've been researching case studies on actual economic collapses, and yes, there are absolutely reasons to be very concerned about our economy right now. And by extension, the whole world's economy. The stock market seems to be operating in the Twilight Zone right now, with companies that have no profit like Amazon and Twitter going up, and companies that are making money going down.

    It's nuts!
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    LOL! The article was talking about how long "the next president" will have to correct things, so I looked at the date. The article was written before Obama's reelection in 2012! Things have gotten drastically worse since then.
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    hmmm... must have posted the wrong copied link. Will dig up the correct link
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    It's still a good article. Just a little dated when talking about the presidential election.
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    This and the ever increasing fear of the worst to come is why I just sold a $750,000 business to get out of, and be "free and clear" of the headache so when all goes South, I only have to worry about my family and friends. When I told the new owners my fears of the future (they are foreigners) they just simply said "Aww, you Americans worry for nothing". Suuuuuurreeeeee. ;-)
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    This country I love is almost turned upside down. Just in the last few years it seems to be changing faster and not for the better. Many people have their heads buried in the sand about the important issues going on in our states, communities and country. History is in the making and no matter what I plan to temporally and spiritually prepare my family for what lies ahead. We all have a purpose in life. We are born for a reason and can stand up for our freedoms against all evil. Satan has bought up all his armies to gather them to fight. We must all prepare and hold fast to our freedoms and beliefs.
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    I hope the collapse never happens, but it is almost inevitable at some point the way we've been going. This should be evident by all of the recent government shutdowns. It will happen, just a matter of when, not if.
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    Isn't the 17 trillion $ figure just a small portion of the real debt anyway? I thought I saw that figure was calculated leaving out some outstanding fees..
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    Sorry to all, but I don't believe an economic collapse is likely at all. Although the current administration has been very reckless with spending, which has caused our debt to increase at an alarming rate, our economy is still stable. You may hear things like, we owe China so much because we borrow to pay our debt. That isn't really accurate. China buys U.S debt in the form of Treasury Bonds, just like you or I can buy bonds. That is all a bond really is, debt. Our nation also buys debt from other countries as well, and has a large amount of securities from other countries, last tally was 89 cents per dollar of debt. Also, America is still the Powerhouse when it comes to manufacturing. How can this be when everything you own likely says made in China? Simple, China and most other countries focus on building the cheap crap small production items, while the U.S builds supercomputers, jumbo jets, space technology, ect. A survey conducted in 2010 shows; American Manufacturing was twice as productive as China's with a half less workers.
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    I just don't see how it wouldn't happen a some point. Maybe I give humanity too much credit, but I think they would eventually see through this fiat currency crap. Anywho, I do understand what you're saying and do agree, but I think that there has to come a day when this economy will get a reset IF, the country continues on its current path. Thank you for the insight though :)

    Edit: I don't think it would happen as soon as the video predicts, just at some point
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    Clearly anything is possible, and this is just my opinion, I am by no means an expert, ( I do have a BS in Economics, and I am working on my MBA) but I do see good signs. The S&P has just hit highest marks ever. The great thing about our nation is the rather quick turnaround in the government, through election. However, the U.S economy is controlled by the FED, and Bernanke and the soon to be president of the FED, Janet Yellen, have vowed to keep interest rates low. Some believe this is a good idea; which is to drive spending because a low interest rate punishes those who save by not giving you a large enough return to make saving worthwhile. Although this will drive spending and consumerism, and in turn strengthen the dollar abroad, if it lasts to long, it will may have a huge negative impact on seniors and non-profits, and retirees. Only time will tell if this is the right course of action. GM, Ford and Chrysler all up, 16,14,11 percent, is great news.
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    Points I can't argue mr collegiate ;) haha
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    Negating that it comes from time magazine and assuming that all the info is presented accurately, I'd say you just gave me some confidence :) Still weary of it though :p
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    haha, good point. I am not a huge time magazine fan either.
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    While I do respect your optimism that there will be no economic collapse. Please have a look at this.

    http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=682

    Quotes from David Rockefeller -

    “We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings (Bilderberg meetings) and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.”

    “This present window of opportunity, during which a truly peaceful and interdependent world order might be built, will not be open for too long – We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order.”

    “For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as “internationalists” and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”

    Henry Kissinger -

    “Who controls the food supply controls the people; who controls energy can control whole continents; who controls money controls the world.”

    Woodrow Wilson -

    “I am the most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is now controlled by its system of credit. We are no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.”

    “Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive that they had better not speak above their breadth when they speak in condemnation of it.”

    Woodrow is of course speaking about secret societies such as Illuminati. Or Shadow Government. The one that "controls" OUR Government. So my question is... Why are Countries such as China now buying so much Gold, and hard assets using all these US Treasury bonds when the US Dollar is no longer backed by anything such as Gold, and now by passing the US Dollar?

    And where are all these parts in these super computers, Jets, Space technology made from? China, Japan perhaps? They, just like Ford, Chevrolet, Dodge are all just "Assembled in America" now using robots while the parts are all made from other Countries.

    As much as I would like to believe the US Economy is recovering, and doing better. Reality says otherwise.

    As Ayn Rand once said.

    “You can ignore reality, but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.”


    The stock market/Wall Street is nothing more than Las Vegas in New York city. I trust Time magazine just about as much as I trust Fox, CNN, cnbc, msnbc, BBC etc etc.. "Mainstream media"... I Do not trust them one bit. They only tell you what they are told to tell us from the "Shadow Government". These people in that video above has been doing this stuff for many years. They know what they are talking about. Dr Paul Craig Roberts has a PhD in Economics. So yeah I would say he knows what he is talking about. He was also Assistant Secretary of Treasury during Reagan. This is not fear mongering, this is reality. Remember what happened in 1929, or 2008? That is reality also. I am not attacking you, and please don't think I am, I am just pointing out that these people have been doing this stuff for many many years, and knows what they are talking about. They are doing the job that mainstream media WILL NOT do, and that is tell the truth. I respect your point of view, but in my opinion it is mostly false. We are dealing with very evil people that are out to destroy nations for their benefit, and they will not stop until they have succeeded. The good news is they will fail in the end. God, and Good always wins!!
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