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Tips on choosing a place to build a shelter for autonomous residence in the event of a crisis and other emergency situations.

When choosing a place of temporary or permanent asylum, the following factors will be crucial:

1. The distance.

If you consider the "House in the village" as a means to temporarily wait for the crisis, it makes no sense to settle further than you can drive for one tank of fuel.

Another thing is when you are going to settle there forever, or for a long time. Then, distance is not a problem. Personally, I think that the further you get from major cities during a crisis, the better.

• How far is the shelter from your current location, and can you safely (and autonomously) exist there during a crisis?

• how far is a refuge from areas with high population density?

2. Water source.

A good and permanent source of water is a strong argument in favor of choosing one or another location. From fresh springs, underground rivers, wells, you can get clean drinking water.

If there is constant access to water nearby, this is a huge plus in favor of this place.

• What are the sources of drinking water that your locality is rich in?

• are these sources renewable and will they be accessible all year round?


3. Sneak location.

The ability to hide or hide your presence may be needed in any crisis. Think in advance what ways you can take to prevent your detection from the ground and from the air. This can help you thick trees, folds areas, and other resources for masking.


4. Self sufficiency

It should be borne in mind that for an autonomous existence, we need a place that will provide us with everything we need. For example, sunlight, for energy, or wood for heating a house in the cold.

Of course, hiding in a deep cave, we can be sure no one will ever find us, but can we live there? It is better to die without leaving home.


5. Natural resources.

Another important factor when choosing a habitat.

• is the land fertile enough to grow crops?

• Is there a sufficient population of wild animals for hunting in the area?

• Is the terrain suitable for animal husbandry?


6. The cost of living in the shelter.

In our country, everything is arranged in such a way that you will never be guaranteed to own your property. And if it seems to you that all of you have already privatized and are the owner, get these thoughts out of your head. At any time, your property may be confiscated by the state. Or simply there will be those who think that they have the right to take what belongs to you.

So, it is possible that during a crisis there will be no power as such. But in peacetime, in the process of preparing for asylum, proceed from the fact that you can maintain the land, pay bills, so as not to attract interest to your person.

7. Demand for territory.

Make sure that your land does not attract too much attention for other people eager for survival. And that in this territory they are not going to build a cottage settlement for the company of friends of oligarchs from the top authorities.

In general, I think that a place should be like that - at first glance and not understand how comfortable and comfortable it is to exist autonomously here. It will be a shame if at the moment of crisis, your privacy will collapse crowds belated survivalist with backpacks.


8. Population density

During disasters, areas with high population density, such as Moscow, St. Petersburg, Yekaterinburg, Novosibirsk, and other megacities of over one million people, will experience tangible problems with crime, social unrest, medicines, and a lack of resources.

They will also have a high risk of becoming a hotbed of epidemics.


9. Natural threats

From tornadoes and hurricanes to earthquakes, floods and environmental man-made threats. You need to be aware of the threat that this area poses (spring sinking, proximity to the Nuclear Power Plant), and how the climate can prevent your plans to grow food, hunt, use resources.

• Evaluate the historical map of the area to see what this place might look like in the future.

Take into account the natural cataclysms that were previously in this place.

NOW ABOUT SAFETY.

• The place you choose for your secretive life should be located away from residential areas: large cities at least 200 km, villages at least 30-40 km, small residential villages, at least 10-15 km Why so? Yes, because in these areas all have been extensively explored, and mushroom collectors and berry and just curious.

• The distance from the nearest passable road on special equipment (UAZ, NIVA, GAZ-66, URAL) should be at least 6 km. That is, if you leave by car, you have to drive along the road where you can or want, and then also go deeper into the forest for 6 or more kilometers. Walking the same, 5 km, is the maximum for an experienced dog to catch the smell of a stranger. If a search team with dogs passes along such a broken road, then at a distance of 6 km the dog will not react to you.

• Your place of permanent residence must be on the bank of a river or lake. Why is that? Yes, because steam always rises from water, and the smoke from your campfire, from afar can be mistaken for steam or haze. Learn to make and maintain a fire without smoke. IT IS IMPORTANT!

The smoke from the fire visually and smell will detect you at a great distance. An experienced eye will notice smoke from a “bad” fire from a helicopter at a distance of up to 10 km. A human search engine on earth will feel a fire for 1-2 km, a dog for 5 km. You see for yourself what the distance, so learn to keep koster.bez smoke.

Never make a fire with straw or dry grass. Birch bark and only birch bark, have a stock of birch bark.

• Your house, dugout, hut, residential building, if it is not a natural cave (although I would disguise it, too), you must necessarily have a disguise according to the surrounding landscape.

Accommodation must be located under the canopy of trees, plus an extra disguise.

• Never, remember, NEVER plan your forest garden with even beds, and even next to each other. Believe me, such vegetable gardens are visible both from space and from a helicopter very well. And if there is a developed land, then there is one who developed it.

Your garden should have rounded lines like a transition of flowers on camouflage clothing, and leave grass islands on the beds until your greens germinate and cover the black earth.

• Never plant brightly blooming crops on a vegetable garden. Red, yellow, blue colors are very well visible from above.

For wild plants - this does not apply.

• Never throw papers and little things in the forest, much less take notes (marked places) with rags. By doing so, you give yourself away with giblets.

Note places to others in a less noticeable way, for example, dump a thin tree from the root, or break it in the middle.

Use the "eternal" omens, even being close by. You can always find what you have buried or noticed.

• Try not to follow the same routes (footprint to footprint), go there, but close by. DO NOT create paths. Creating paths and even far from home, you give the enemy a chance to stumble upon such a path, understand that it is not bestial, and bring it directly to you. This is not the case for swamps. In the swamps everything is different.

• Cutting trees into firewood, ALWAYS cover the stumps with moss on top, and cut them as close to the ground as possible so as not to stick out. The white cut down of the tree can be seen from the air from a distance of about 1 YEAR. And never cut trees nearby, in several pieces, such cutting down is visible from the air. Cut down 1-2 trees in different places.

• If you survived by car, then upon arrival at the place, disguise the car very well. But so that you can quickly jump into it and once again be saved if something happens. No need to drive 100 meters by car for firewood, better bring it on foot. The sound of the motor in a quiet forest can be heard up to 2 km.

• If a game or animal gets caught, do not chop or pluck the bird on the spot, bring it to the house and refresh the carcass there. Abandoned feathers, pieces of meat, skin, etc., away from home, reduce your exclusion zone and bring search engines closer to you.

And besides, I would collect the feathers, the skin is also useful. Yes, and the head of the black grouse, for example, excellent bait in the traps.

• Try not to burn fires anywhere, on the remaining heat and coal, the search teams can tell exactly when it burned.

• Well, you should have a camouflage suit corresponding to the terrain.


Security does not happen much;)
 
@Tuman

All that you wrote is very helpful, even in my desert climate. One thing I was not aware of was the distance a dog could pick up a scent. While I live in the desert, I could also get trapped in a forest area if the SHTF was sudden type. So all knowledge is important. I appreciate the post and the solid suggestions. Please keep them coming. We do have many members that live in or near forest.
 
sadly,many people of today are simply afraid of the woods..

Most people naturally fear the woods. Overcoming that is something you have to learn. The Greeks came up with a reason for that in their mythology. The word "Panic" comes from Pan, the Greek god of the woods. The story goes that if you woke Pan from his afternoon nap in the woods, his angry shout would induce "Panic."
 
No, of course not Bigpaul. I'm just saying the irrational fear of the woods is universal, and the Greeks tried to come up with an explanation for it, which led to the word "Panic" which is a common English word that very few people know the history of. Any time you use the word, you are unintentionally making a reference to Pan.

Did you really think I believed in Greek mythology??? :rolleyes:
 
Etymology of "Panic": early 17th century: from French panique, from modern Latin panicus, from Greek panikos, from the name of the god Pan, noted for causing terror, to whom woodland noises were attributed.

A number of years ago, I was walking back to camp through the woods from the deer stand after dark and a pack of coyotes started up their fiendish yipping between me and camp. Logically I had nothing to fear - coyote attacks on humans in the Eastern US are unheard of. But an intense feeling of panic seized my heart nonetheless. I've carried a pistol with me while deer hunting ever since.
 
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Yet folks that are frighten by the forest feel safer in the city, I tried understanding that kind of reasoning :confused:

Lisa was wary of the darkness on the mountain at night when she first arrived here and the best way I could explain it to her was the darkness is her friend, she did warm to the nightly forest noises, it took about a year.
 

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