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Bad news for the EU.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...gain-power-Rome-like-Catalonia-Roberto-Maroni

It looks like 2 regions of Italy are wanting elections to separate from the rest of Italy. And these 2 strong regions are 30% of Italy's GDP.

Regions that are getting bled financially are tired of supporting freeloaders. And maybe of gov't that prefer muslim rapists over their own citizens? The UK and Catalan have emboldened a number of other regions.
 
SE, good find!

Read the article. Both regions of Italy had their votes on Sunday & both had 90% in favor of independence from Italy. And apparently these were 'legal' votes.

One region sends 54billion euros more to Rome than they get back and the smaller region sends 15.5billion Euros more than they get back. 25% of Italy's population and they generate 30% of GDP.

It will get interesting... more interesting.
 
Wow. So it looks like Italy will end up looking like the former Yugoslavia, out of one come a dozen.

Here's another article, it looks like Catalan's 'president' and 'vice president' are playing good-politician and bad-politician. The VP came out & said that Spain's actions will mean they have no choice but to declare independence. He made it clear that this is his statement and not from the president or the whole region. Interesting...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5016881/Catalan-separatist-leader-snubs-Spanish-Senate.html
 
The US and UK have already REFUSED to recognise the Catalans, Two Unions who despise REAL democracy.

I agree with that. I'll add it's also 2 unions wanting bonus points from the EU. The UK wants favorable relations as they negotiate their exit (tariffs, etc). The US has more to gain from relations with all of the EU than just Catalan. So maybe the wrong choice for the right reasons? Don't get me wrong, I think Catalan deserves independence. But they are the small potato and shouldn't expect favors going against the EU.

I'd put in the same category as Trump supporting Doug Strange in the Alabama Rep primary over Judge Moore. Moore would be more help if elected, but Trump supported Strange to earn points with the Rep Senate. But then Trump didn't go out of his way to support Strange (and kept his fingers crossed that Moore would win).
 
Nuff Said!
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have been thinking about this and have also talked with my bro about this Catalan-vote;
the guy who instigated all this,mr Puidgemont,who set this in motion,knew that he had a snowballs chance in hell to get someone to recognice Catalonia as an independent nation.
not ALL Catalans wan't to leave Spain,that's a fact..not the majority.
and now,when shtf the brave leader mr Puidgemont runs to Belgium and leaves the shit behind,is that how a leader does?? now he hides behind the EUSSR's back and whines.
sure Madrid did over react,that's prolly the spanish way of doing business...oh,by the way does anyone know the lyrics to the Spanish natinal anthem??
 
have been thinking about this and have also talked with my bro about this Catalan-vote;
the guy who instigated all this,mr Puidgemont,who set this in motion,knew that he had a snowballs chance in hell to get someone to recognice Catalonia as an independent nation.
not ALL Catalans wan't to leave Spain,that's a fact..not the majority.
and now,when shtf the brave leader mr Puidgemont runs to Belgium and leaves the shit behind,is that how a leader does?? now he hides behind the EUSSR's back and whines.
sure Madrid did over react,that's prolly the spanish way of doing business...oh,by the way does anyone know the lyrics to the Spanish natinal anthem??


Ah BUT Mon Ami many folks in 13 former Colonies of the UK thought EXACTLY the same " How the Fook can we beat the British ?" But Liberty, Freedom and the right to self determination is a powerful force especially when those you are fighting dont want to be there when they could be at home?
 
Looks like the 'president' of Catalan has surrendered to Belgian police. Trying to sort out if he's returned to spain, or how to treat/charge him.
 
I could only read part of it because of all the ad's and pop up's . Is that the Danish,Russian Guy that said He was starting a Prepper group in the Philippines that showed up on this site few years ago ?
 

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