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I do agree with you, but here’s our plan: How many other Angelinos have a truck already filled to the brim ready to drive off fully stocked and gassed up can leave in 15 minutes flat? I would say maybe 1000 other preppers in LA.

But how many sheeple are going to stay and watch devolve into chaos? Probably most. As soon as we see civil unrest, we’re out. We’re not waiting for martial law or riots in the streets. Remember New Orleans told people for 2-5 days to leave, before Katrina, and most of the smart ones and preppers did, it was the broke and desperate that stayed that caused the looting that were overwhelmed with flooding.

I’m sure the roads will fill up after a few hours but we got the jump on everyone because we’re already packed and loaded. I guarantee you with a 15-60 minute turn around time if I’m not at home, one year worth of canned meat, beef, spam, chicken, albacore, spaghetti meat, sloppy joe meat, canned hams, canned crab, canned fruit and veggies all we need is a water source to replenish the 15-20 gallons we’re taking with us.

I also have a suction hose, and just bought two carb approved 12 gallon fuel cans and aftermarket vent caps so with the Xterra having 18-20 gallons plus my 5 and two 12s we could literally get to Tonopah in the middle of nowhere and regroup without stopping at a gas station.

Elko, Ely, Tonopah are extremely deserted but have mountains and water sources.
That would definitely give you a head start on most people.
In my opinion; short of an EMP, SHTF is such a slow moving event that most people wouldn't notice it. I personally feel that it's already started. That's why I retired early and started building our homestead several years ago.
Fyi, years ago I worked at a gold mine near Eureka for a short time. Love the area.
 
Isn't Idyllwild up near the Smith River?

Yes it is. It’s pretty remote. We were thinking of Idyllwild by Palm Springs, which is pretty close to LA. If SHTF I think the one you’re referencing is a much better area as it’s remote as hell and unincorporated. We should start researching that area. Maybe take our potential trailer up there.
 
Hence the year worth of canned meats and fruits and vegetables and 10 gallons of camping fuel.
Hi again Mark, at 17 I left home with a 110 lb. backpack with 2 gal. water, 5 lbs rice, 5 lbs flour, 5 lbs beans, 2 lbs sugar, 2 lbs salt, 2 lbs powder milk, 1 lb black tea and 1 lbs of boullions cubes. I lived in the mountains and valleys of CA, AZ, NM, OK and TX between the months of May and November of 1976 till I found my divorced father in south Texas. I know how it is to live with just a knife, tidbits of food, hunting and fishing with a minimum of essentials; clothes and hygiene. EXTREMELY hard for someone prepared like me. Impossible for someone not prepared for the hardness of the reality of having the absolute minimum. You sound like you and yours have had lots of experience in camping and travelling. You just might make it...Just some more tips...
1. get used to NOT using any of your food, camping fuel or canned stuff till you have not trapped, shot, caught or found anything else and are almost starving!!
2. start going without soap, toothpaste and shampoo for a while, just water, to see what it is like. Save your "taken with stuff" as long as possible!!
3. start cutting your own hair and fingernails. Bugs and dirt will get you fast. Ticks hide in hair longer that 1/2 of an inch and dirty fingernails will poison your food.
4. get a secondary electronic system for your Bug-out-vehicle and get it EMP proofed. Take it from a wrecked vehicle at the junkyard and learn how to change them out...
5. get you a collection of edible plants in N. America. Learn which of them are mistakeable and poisonous, get to a survival school near you and practice, practice, practice.
6. get a collection of pictures of functioning traps and practice building them and have the materials ready in your BOV.
7. get info and practice on the skinning and taking out of possible animals you will be hunting/trapping. Learn what you can do with the skins and how to dry them also.
8. learn which trees will be the best for making fires without smoke, making tools and which are best for smoking you meat, onions, garlic, cheese and fish. (Yes you can)
9. consider taking your trailer to the BOL and camo it somewhere totally unaccessable. You can bug out faster without it and leave it there...
If you have any questions, do a Private Message to me. Or just keep writing here and all the other members can read and take some tips also...GP
look for some frontier recipes: https://www.legendsofamerica.com
https://damndelicious.net
https://www.survivalsullivan.com
https://www.milkwood.net/
https://www.permies.com/
 
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Thanks Garp. You make good points. Anything other than an emp gets us out of town. The problem is an emp will strand everyone and 95% of US population will feed on and kill each other. The grey man mentality applies so if were bugging out in an emp proof vehicle and no one else is driving, then we have a huge bullseye on our back.

Its better to get the trailer up to a secluded location and camoflaged asap.
 
If you get to smelling the S Hitting the fan, then you gotta get out before the rest of the sheeple. Get a days head start before the gas stations are lined up and maybe even empty. Get the jump on everybody, if nothing happens, then it was just practice, turn around and go back home from a practice run... If the SHTF really, then you are ahead of the tsunami of people flooding and fleeing the city. Tank up every chance you see, just to stay full, keep buying food all along the way, stuff the truck to its weight limits and GTHOOD. Good luck, GP
 
I’m ready to be crucified. I’m putting on my big boy pants. Here’s the deal:

EMP not withstanding.

We have an old camping truck. A 2005 Nissan Xterra Off Road with a 3 inch lift, 35 inch tires w/full size spare and jack, shrockworks front bumper and a Warn 9500 Ti Thermometric winch, and heavy steel rock sliders step rails. https://ibb.co/9TrFJ9g
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Fully maintained for the last 15 years. I can buy a used, ecm, bcm, and ipdm/fuse boxes and put them in a faraday cage at a pretty cheap price. This truck sits in our driveway and is only used for camping.

We have a ton of camping equipment. We decided to pack up the truck as a rolling bug out vehicle if we have to abandon ship and run from our mini fortress in urban LA.

So we packed the following:

1. Blow up queen bed with car charger blower.
2. 3 person waterproof tent.
3. Two heavy blankets sheets pillows.
3. Camping stove. Propane. 3 6 inch mini jugs of stored propane. Bought 9 gallons of camping fuel with a 2nd camping stove two burner that runs on that.
4. Lots of dry storage food. Nuts, crackers, peanut butter. Koolaid premix.
5. 4 mini flashlights.
6. 5 gallons of water. Will add 10-20 more on roof rack strapped down.
7. Small pan, skillet, pot, cooking tools.
8. Matches, butane lighter.
9. Knife, shovel, axe, sledgehammer, leatherman, compass, map, xl bolt cutters (fuk the forest service!)
10. Warm and cold weather clothes jackets socks etc.
11. Toiletries soap lotion Vaseline chapstick basic meds, bp, allergies, Tylenol Advil.
12. Ordered tarp, paracord, compass, ferro rod, solar panel sine wave inverter from Amazon. (3-10 day delivery.)
13. Rope, recovery strap, chain, d shackles, max traxxs, for winch. Basic tools, adj wrench, etc. pliers, vise, flat, Phillips.
14. Salt sugar pepper spices, dry powdered eggs, trail mix, captain crunch, crackers pnutbutter.
15. Ordered antibiotics will store in inside bag in house, to be put in truck.
16. Heavy field trauma kit, gunshot chest suction sticky things and coagulants and abt 100 other stuff. Bandaids, tourniquets, Israeli compressing thingy. Gauze nausea pills etc.
17. Four rolls of toilet paper. Plastic utensils 20 packs.
18. Boots, hats backpack.
19. Kids coloring set for our 3 yr old daughter.
20. Pioneer gps system.
21. Roof lights, deep cycle agm battery with battery tender.
22. Will have a big bag of canned foods stored by the door in house of meat, spam, veggies, etc.
23. 1Gallon gas can.
25. Will take shotgun, handgun and ammo from house. Slugs for hunting and birdshot.
26. Will take cash and valuables.
27. Two adult folding chairs. 1 child chair.
28. I folding table.
29. Papers map of high Sierras abt 5 hours from us.
30. Bug spray, bathing suits sandals, pillows sheet.
31. Dish soap. Towel big sized wash cloth.
32. Two short wave frs if no emp.
33. Satellite phone fully charged. If no emp.
34. Back up hidden old cell phone.
35. Opioids for emergencies breaks, sprains, etc.
36. Antacids. Anti fungal. Epi pen.
37. Rice, flour, sugar, coffee.
38. Jerky.
39. Licorice, charm pops, sugar cereal. Can of powdered milk, pasta.
40. Pull pal winch system for rear of truck.
41. Huge recharging spot light plugged into truck now.
42. CO 2 warning alarm since the queen mattress can be blown up inside truck and all 3 sleep inside in cold weather because Xterra seats all fold down to huge comfortable sleeping area.
43. Satellite xm radio works in wilderness.
44. Full tank of gas. Car is on battery tender now with fully charged battery.
45. Tow hitch and ball.
46. 1 quart of oil. Doesn’t burn any. 1/2 gallon radiator fluid. Emergency blankets.
48. Fire extinguisher kitchen sized strapped down.
49. Extra child seat already bolted up.
50. Extra sun glasses for all 3 of us.
51. Two xl bags of wet wipes.
52. 1 gallon bucket.
53. Extra truck key hidden inside truck.
54. Will order crossbow on amazon with bolts.
55. Basic fishing rod, lures, line kits premade.
56. Tire patch kits.
57. Duct tape. Sewing thread. Qtips lotion, shampoo soap.
58. Aftermarket alarm with ignition lock.
59. Water purification tablets. 1000.
60. Water bottle filter kit.
61. Trash bags. Zip locks.
62. Large Coleman ice chest with stuff stored in it. Great food prep bench/table.

This is everything we could think of already packed so we literally could bug out in 10 minutes.
We could last a few months in the high sierras right now with what we packed (as long as we found water) winter sleeping in truck, summer fall sleeping in tent, until civil unrest died down and then head out to sparsely populated areas like Tonopah, Elko, Ely, Great Basin, Kootenai natl forest and build permanent shelter. ( 1 tank of gas can get us to lower sierras, notwithstanding we can barter buy gas to get farther.)

Everyone’s thoughts?

Thanks, Mark
You should add tool box.
 
I'd be more concerned about just getting out of LA. In a real disaster all roads leading out of LA will be blocked with millions of others trying to get out. Not to mention the military will probably block all roads too. But good luck.
This is troubling indeed. When I started looking into our freeway routes and off road. I realized we caged ourselves in.
 
Mark!!! be careful on the top loading, you change the stability of the entire vehicle in curves and by hill climbing. And do not forget that with the top load, many people do manage to drive into the garage with that bicycle, top kit or storage box and destroy it...you raise the entire heighth of the truck...
 
Added Dutch oven, cast iron skillet, going to add a rear bumper tire carrier with room for one of the 12 gallon marine tanks. The tire carrier will add 2 spare tires to the rig or a second 12 gallon marine tank where the tire under the rear bumper currently sits. Plus solar shower, luggable loo, potassium iodide tablets, water purification tablets two water filters, sleeping bags, chairs tents. Dry food.

All I need is a good crossbow for hunting. Any recommendations?
 
As Gary points out if your intent is to BUG OUT your intel and interfamily comms needs to be superb, because you have to be LONG GONE before the masses, and your family must know IMMEDIATELY that they must come home frrom school, work, shopping etc when they recieve their trigger word. And please dont forget that a vehicle heavily draped with extra equipment is only ever going to attract jelous / prying eyes, Part and parcel of being a sucessful prepper who opts to bug out is NOT BEING SEEN and NOT ADVERTISING your presence. Your essential kit should all fit INSIDE your vehicle.
 

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