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When you look at the early pioneers who traveled to the West they typically did better with horse/oxen pulled wagons. I'm not sure how well repairs could be made on the trail, but probably easier than many of the modern carts today. In a really desperate situation, the oxen were used for food.

The cart that Polymule is offering does have non-flat tires. You'd have to use it for hundreds/thousands of miles before wearing out the tires. It is also completely toolless.
 
I'm also looking at the need to help those around me. In two weeks I'm moving to a new area. When I want to help my local neighbors it's about a 2 mile walk. If I need to get to alternate small towns it's about 10-20 miles. Small and light is best for those longer trips, but sometimes you need to take more gear or potentially people that are ill, aging, or very young.
 
i'll be using a bicycle for longer trips.

Yeah, I've got a bike for each member of the family. Plus a lot of repair tools. Bikes can be high maintenance.

In the past 10 years I've commuted over 12,000+ miles via bike. I've repaired dozens of flats, and replaced tires 4-5 times after wearing thin. I've even had to replace spokes probably a dozen times. Spokes are hard to replace, especially if you don't have access to the right tools, or even worse, if you don't have extras.
 
Wait, you are moving? Out of Utah?

I'm looking to head that way in a two year-ish time frame. Ogden, or close.
 
Wait, you are moving? Out of Utah?

I'm looking to head that way in a two year-ish time frame. Ogden, or close.

Yep, we are moving up to Idaho. My job situation allows me to work from anywhere. I save about $9k a year just by moving north.

We'll have about 1.5 acres of land to use. It is also next to a small stream where I can set up a hydroelectric station to supplement power. Plus it has a 500 gal. propane tank which connects to a power inverter to run the water well. If the power/grid goes down I can get water for about a year. Kind of a playground for someone who's preparedness-minded.
 
Yeah, I've got a bike for each member of the family. Plus a lot of repair tools. Bikes can be high maintenance.

In the past 10 years I've commuted over 12,000+ miles via bike. I've repaired dozens of flats, and replaced tires 4-5 times after wearing thin. I've even had to replace spokes probably a dozen times. Spokes are hard to replace, especially if you don't have access to the right tools, or even worse, if you don't have extras.
I can ride double the distance I can walk and in half the time, its okay for leisure now and for exercise, but post SHTF I wont be going far from my current location, I think staying away from base for any length of time wont be safe and besides there will be too much work to do.
 
FYI

INFO militarymobilitycomparisonchart.jpg
 
It looks like with a few simple hand tools you could remove wheels and wheel brackets ? and make it a sled, a tall thin tire usually works well in mud just like on a 4x4 vehicle, the thin wheels cause less resistance than wide tires, a thin tire will cut through where a wide tire will try and push stuff ahead of it creating resistance, If the mud gets too deep neither one will work very well, wider works best when you need flotation like on sand...a small block and pulley like people use to hang animals would be a good addition to keep with trailer just in case...
Small comealong may work too
 
Just pondering this subject. Pictured all the refugees after WWII and what they used, which was everything on wheels. You can go a long way using whatever is at hand. Baby buggies, wheelbarrows, primitive carts, wagons, caisson, mule packs, in snow covered areas, sleds of all types. I don't know if there is one perfect all around manual hauling apparatus. If you had to hand pack out 100 pounds of water or food or materials of whatever kind for 7 miles how would you do it? It depends on the temperature, the terrain and your health and what you were going to be hauling.
If I had to pick something. I would choose something with large diameter thin wheels, 2 wheeled and with a harness for a human, if hilly some sort of brake to keep myself from getting rolled over. Absolutely must be light weight.
 
Just pondering this subject. Pictured all the refugees after WWII and what they used, which was everything on wheels. You can go a long way using whatever is at hand. Baby buggies, wheelbarrows, primitive carts, wagons, caisson, mule packs, in snow covered areas, sleds of all types. I don't know if there is one perfect all around manual hauling apparatus. If you had to hand pack out 100 pounds of water or food or materials of whatever kind for 7 miles how would you do it? It depends on the temperature, the terrain and your health and what you were going to be hauling.
If I had to pick something. I would choose something with large diameter thin wheels, 2 wheeled and with a harness for a human, if hilly some sort of brake to keep myself from getting rolled over. Absolutely must be light weight.

Hand pulled cargo trailers with 27 inch Mountain bike wheels with puncture proof tyres are popular in Europe
 
Just want to note, not disputing the efficiency chart, but it was produced by a bike company.

If I am rolling an armored personnel carrier armed with a 20mm cannon, not sure a ten speed is trading up.

Its about efficiency rather than what it can carry, if you look at what is needed to move that truck compared to the bicycle :)
 
I get it SE, but man. That APC? I don't know how you leave that unless it dies or runs out of gas.

I did a pretty decent trip once on a bike, something like one hundred sixty miles, and I had some issues. The rear carrier slipped and rubbed on the tire, chain would come off sometimes, flats, someone thoughtfully dropped some four by four posts into a few muskrat holes in the trail, and I nailed one in the dark and about broke my hand.

It was tough going, and I was racing Mountain bikes at the time. I rode a lot, thirty miles was nothing. With a pack, and a couple bags... exhausting.

I won't lie, or argue just for the sake of arguing, if I was walking and came across a working bike, I'm on it you bet.

Same goes for anything really. Anything rolling can only help.
 
I'm a life long infantryman, I will always walk :) unless my BOV is available :) for me cyclists of all flavours are a blight on englands roads.:)
 

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