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[Michael HM Murdock]

Fair enough. A horse system with horse stations set up every forty kilometers to change horses and get their faster. The Mongolian method.

 

[Maverick]

My bad, it's the passenger pigeon that gone extinct.

 

[Maverick]

"If the earth is hit by a direct solar flare, some of which can be 14 times the size of the earth, scientists from NASA and the National Academy of Sciences say it would cost the nation alone up to $2 trillion in the first year. It could take four to 10 years to recover and affect 90 percent of the U.S. population, meaning widespread starvation and death."

In Government records it is said 2/3rds of the population would possibly die in the first year. FERC has been trying to get the grants to fix a lot of this to no avail.

 

[Maverick]

The trouble with using horses as carrying the messenger and messages is that it requires an awful lot of resources and that's not counting OPSEC for each station, people that are hungry is going to see horses as one giant steak also remember there are far far more people today then there where in the 19th, 18th and 17th century. We can romanticize what was just keep in mind it's just not realistic today nor can it be, the dynamics that govern human nature today is far different then it was yesterday.

 

[bigpaul]

90% has always been the expected die off this side of the pond, and forget about recovery, things will never get back to "business as usual" not with that amount of die off it wont.

 

[Maverick]

90% has always been the expected die off this side of the pond, and forget about recovery, things will never get back to "business as usual" not with that amount of die off it wont.

Such a small island with that many deaths, how many creeks/brooks lakes and ponds going to be littered with the dead?

 

[bigpaul]

not many, 85% of the population lives in cities and are scared of the countryside. and it isn't such a small island, sure its crowded in the big cities but Britain isn't just big cities any more than America is.

 

[jimLE]

true about..one giant steak also remember there are far far more people today then there were in the 19th, 18th and 17th century...people ate/eat dogs horses and what ever,in the way of routine way of life for centuries..and it'll become more for survival than anything else,in a such situation.
and like bigpaul said...90% has always been the expected die off this side of the pond, and forget about recovery, things will never get back to "business as usual" not with that amount of die off it wont.no it wont go back to the it was..at least not in our life time(s)...

so many people will be dead within 6 months from starvation,dehydration,disease,freezing,heat,to being killed for whatever reason(s).eventually there wont be enough people to get things up and going (i guess) within 10 to 20 years

 

[bigpaul]

with that many dead we could be looking at a century or more, in 1750 the population of this country was 6 million or 10% approx. of todays population, with a 90% die off that's the kind of numbers we are talking about, and 1750 was what? 265 years ago if my arithmetic is correct, that what we would be looking at, not 10 or 20 years.

 

[jimLE]

i know there'll be a extremely large die off.and that chances are,it could be within 5 years.but i also figure that i give myself some lean way on being mistaken about that..

 

[bigpaul]

i'd rather be proved wrong(by events) than be proved right, but I don't think i'm going to be, I think its inevitable and its only a matter of time...but not that much time!!

 

[Maverick]

not many, 85% of the population lives in cities and are scared of the countryside. and it isn't such a small island, sure its crowded in the big cities but Britain isn't just big cities any more than America is.

Though people are brave as hell in numbers even in the country side, gang mentality is more prevalent today then back in the day.

with that many dead we could be looking at a century or more, in 1750 the population of this country was 6 million or 10% approx. of todays population, with a 90% die off that's the kind of numbers we are talking about, and 1750 was what? 265 years ago if my arithmetic is correct, that what we would be looking at, not 10 or 20 years.

People are better educated and thinkers then that of the 1750s with far better understanding and better tools to accomplish more in less time even though quite ignorant surviving off the land I think we easily dismiss the modern man/women and that will become a big mistake, in either case I don't want to find out "i'd rather be proved wrong(by events) than be proved right"

 

[bigpaul]

they might have better understanding but if they cant grow their own food they aren't going to last long, and post SHTF is too late to start learning. people have the wrong skills these days, knowing IT skills wont put food on the table.

 

[Michael HM Murdock]

Where the holiday home is there is a Creek where I grow deep water rice. I also grow that in a two meter by two meter patch at my regular home. Perhaps cultivation of rice with a 42 percent profitability in output. A square mile can provide 5,333 kilos of rice every twenty eight days. 69,519 every year one mile can feed 69 people every year so if we were to do so from the vaal dam which is almost 467,167,680,000 kilograms. Enough for 467,167 families per year. Plenty of food for the South African prepping community, now how to get people on board.

 

[Brent S]

they might have better understanding but if they cant grow their own food they aren't going to last long, and post SHTF is too late to start learning. people have the wrong skills these days, knowing IT skills wont put food on the table.

You're dead right on not trying to learn after shtf. My gardening skills are getting better each year, but I would have starved to death if I had to depend on them that first year, even the second. I'm still not what I would call good, but at least have a fighting chance of eating all year now.

 

[bigpaul]

we grow a lot of our own fruit and veg, got at least 5 apple trees, in what is a small garden.

 

[Brent S]

we grow a lot of our own fruit and veg, got at least 5 apple trees, in what is a small garden.

That reminds me about growing fruits. I planted a lot of fruit trees here, but many didn't start to produce for three or four years, so starting after shtf is kind of a little late. You don't need to produce everything you eat, or go completely off grid, but we should all be taking baby steps to head in that direction.

 

[bigpaul]

and don't forget you will need a stock of HERTAGE seeds , the ones in the shops are F1 which either don't breed true or more likely they are GM which means the seeds they grow are sterile.

 

[Michael HM Murdock]

I'm sticking with my rice. I might even grow a fish breeding facility... salmon yum.

 

[bigpaul]

rice and salmon......yuck. 2 of my least favourite foods, if you don't count pasta(number 1).